On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:15:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/23/20 11:27 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:54:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

As long as he equipment can be certified and not hacked, no problem having
different systems. I still think a paper ballot you Mark and then the
machine scans right away to make sure is correctly filled out is the best.
Then also a paper trail.

=== That's how it's done in Florida.

Also think there should be an ID required. Not a
problem for anybody legal. You have to have ID for beer, the Doctor, the
bank, to drive and if don?t drive, you still get a state id.

===

I agree, never understood the arguments against it.


Hard for dead people to show ID.


Problems arise in areas where the Republican-controlled state
governments deliberately minimize the availability of places to get such
an ID and the acceptability of what paperwork is necessary to get an ID.
This is especially true in rural areas. A lot of minorities and low
income people don't have the ability to get to a place where you can
apply for an ID and they don't have the documents you need to get one.

They really have to look pretty hard to find one of these people who
never had any kind of government assistance, No SS, No
Medicare/Medicaid, never cashed a check, never got on a plane or never
drove a car.
It is certainly a not a "lot of people" minority or not.
We are rapidly becoming a country where you can't do anything without
a government issued picture ID. Why should voting be any different?

On 11/24/20 9:15 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:15:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/23/20 11:27 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:54:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

As long as he equipment can be certified and not hacked, no problem having
different systems. I still think a paper ballot you Mark and then the
machine scans right away to make sure is correctly filled out is the best.
Then also a paper trail.

=== That's how it's done in Florida.

Also think there should be an ID required. Not a
problem for anybody legal. You have to have ID for beer, the Doctor, the
bank, to drive and if don?t drive, you still get a state id.

===

I agree, never understood the arguments against it.


Hard for dead people to show ID.


Problems arise in areas where the Republican-controlled state
governments deliberately minimize the availability of places to get such
an ID and the acceptability of what paperwork is necessary to get an ID.
This is especially true in rural areas. A lot of minorities and low
income people don't have the ability to get to a place where you can
apply for an ID and they don't have the documents you need to get one.

They really have to look pretty hard to find one of these people who
never had any kind of government assistance, No SS, No
Medicare/Medicaid, never cashed a check, never got on a plane or never
drove a car.
It is certainly a not a "lot of people" minority or not.
We are rapidly becoming a country where you can't do anything without
a government issued picture ID. Why should voting be any different?


What fun would it be if only qualified voters could vote?
--
Joe needs to show a little transparency

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 9:15:36 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:15:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/23/20 11:27 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:54:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

As long as he equipment can be certified and not hacked, no problem having
different systems. I still think a paper ballot you Mark and then the
machine scans right away to make sure is correctly filled out is the best.
Then also a paper trail.

=== That's how it's done in Florida.

Also think there should be an ID required. Not a
problem for anybody legal. You have to have ID for beer, the Doctor, the
bank, to drive and if don?t drive, you still get a state id.

===

I agree, never understood the arguments against it.


Hard for dead people to show ID.


Problems arise in areas where the Republican-controlled state
governments deliberately minimize the availability of places to get such
an ID and the acceptability of what paperwork is necessary to get an ID.
This is especially true in rural areas. A lot of minorities and low
income people don't have the ability to get to a place where you can
apply for an ID and they don't have the documents you need to get one.
They really have to look pretty hard to find one of these people who
never had any kind of government assistance, No SS, No
Medicare/Medicaid, never cashed a check, never got on a plane or never
drove a car.
It is certainly a not a "lot of people" minority or not.

Greg, they are all over the place... in some tiny hidden village in the Brazilian rain forest.

I keep hearing that the election was the most "secure" in history. I believe it. It was secured against internet hacking from other countries. The Dems didn't hack it to cheat, they did it right out in the open with manufactured ballots, refusing to allow vote counting oversight, "losing" ballots from conservative areas, etc. All pretty low tech stuff that has been going on for years.

Hell, our local election board suppresses conservative voting by not having enough voting places and voting machines in those places, thereby creating long lines and waits to vote. Yet our local networks show short lines and ample equipment in the liberal areas. So who is really suppressing who?