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Test Everyone?
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 07:10:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 4/26/2020 1:32 AM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 04:09:13 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 02:46:13 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 4/25/2020 7:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Listening to Paul Romer, an economics professor and former former world bank economist. He wants a $100 million program to test *everyone* in the US biweekly for the covid-19 virus, realizing that a person could be negative today but go out and become infected tomorrow.Â* He is proposing this to make sure we can "open" the country/economy again. I think I heard that so far 5 million people have been tested in the USA and this is after a herculean effort to get more test machines and test kits distributed. How the hell does he expect to test *everyone* biweekly as a condition for people to go back to work? I am not even sure if it would be legal to mandate the tests. Make that "$100 *billion* program, not $100 million. I commented on the $100 million. So how many tests can a person get for $300? Yeah $100Billion sounds right but if you are just looking for active cases you are wasting your money. In real life sample antibody testing is all you need anyway. You can make projections from there. They are still watching the people with antibodies to be sure they really are immune, If not, it may shoot the hell out of the plans for a vaccine. Most vaccines are far from perfect anyway. Your average flu vaccine is 50-75% effective. The flu vaccine is not against all flu, is formulated for the suspected flus of that year. Some suspects don’t cooperate. Why would we think this corona virus is any different? There is at least one expert's opinion that I read that a vaccine for covid-19 (being a corona type virus) may be impossible to develop. Apparently, it has been tried before for the general category of this type of virus and all attempts have been unsuccessful. It's not a H1N1 type virus. The common cold is a corona virus and we know how that works. This might just be another seasonal thing that we have to live with. I assume the more antibodies we develop over time, the less this will affect us. Maybe that is why so many people shake this off so easily, they have had hundreds of colds and beat them all, leaving trails of antibodies behind. |
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On 4/26/20 10:36 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 07:10:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/26/2020 1:32 AM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 04:09:13 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 02:46:13 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 4/25/2020 7:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Listening to Paul Romer, an economics professor and former former world bank economist. He wants a $100 million program to test *everyone* in the US biweekly for the covid-19 virus, realizing that a person could be negative today but go out and become infected tomorrow.Â* He is proposing this to make sure we can "open" the country/economy again. I think I heard that so far 5 million people have been tested in the USA and this is after a herculean effort to get more test machines and test kits distributed. How the hell does he expect to test *everyone* biweekly as a condition for people to go back to work? I am not even sure if it would be legal to mandate the tests. Make that "$100 *billion* program, not $100 million. I commented on the $100 million. So how many tests can a person get for $300? Yeah $100Billion sounds right but if you are just looking for active cases you are wasting your money. In real life sample antibody testing is all you need anyway. You can make projections from there. They are still watching the people with antibodies to be sure they really are immune, If not, it may shoot the hell out of the plans for a vaccine. Most vaccines are far from perfect anyway. Your average flu vaccine is 50-75% effective. The flu vaccine is not against all flu, is formulated for the suspected flus of that year. Some suspects don’t cooperate. Why would we think this corona virus is any different? There is at least one expert's opinion that I read that a vaccine for covid-19 (being a corona type virus) may be impossible to develop. Apparently, it has been tried before for the general category of this type of virus and all attempts have been unsuccessful. It's not a H1N1 type virus. The common cold is a corona virus and we know how that works. This might just be another seasonal thing that we have to live with. I assume the more antibodies we develop over time, the less this will affect us. Maybe that is why so many people shake this off so easily, they have had hundreds of colds and beat them all, leaving trails of antibodies behind. Gosh, I didn't know we knew what percentage of Americans had contracted COVID-19, what percentage of those had only mild symptoms, what percentage had no symptoms, and how antibodies, if you have them, work against COVID-19. But, then, I'm not an amateur epidemiologist like you are. You should be on Trump's panel, as you have so many answers to what is still pretty much unknown. Are you in Lee County, with 961 known cases and 37 deaths so far? Last time I checked, we have about 130 known cases here in Calvert, with 7 deaths. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes |
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Test Everyone?
My county has 2 reported cases and no deaths.
Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Are you in Lee County, with 961 known cases and 37 deaths so far? Last time I checked, we have about 130 known cases here in Calvert, with 7 deaths. |
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On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 08:28:52 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: My county has 2 reported cases and no deaths. Great to be outside the big city huh? |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
Tim wrote: My county has 2 reported cases and no deaths. Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Are you in Lee County, with 961 known cases and 37 deaths so far? Last time I checked, we have about 130 known cases here in Calvert, with 7 deaths. No one goes where you live. Because that is where Flyover Deplorable live? |
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On 4/26/20 12:05 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: Tim wrote: My county has 2 reported cases and no deaths. Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Are you in Lee County, with 961 known cases and 37 deaths so far? Last time I checked, we have about 130 known cases here in Calvert, with 7 deaths. No one goes where you live. Because that is where Flyover Deplorable live? I don't know much about where Tim lives. Our county, where we live, is semi-rural and not densely populated. We do have one north-south state highway that is heavily traveled during rush hour with commuters heading north to DC and south to a naval base and its affiliated high-tech outfits. We've been lucky in not having a large number of reported cases. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes |
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Test Everyone?
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 12:52:02 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 4/26/20 12:05 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: Tim wrote: My county has 2 reported cases and no deaths. Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Are you in Lee County, with 961 known cases and 37 deaths so far? Last time I checked, we have about 130 known cases here in Calvert, with 7 deaths. No one goes where you live. Because that is where Flyover Deplorable live? I don't know much about where Tim lives. Our county, where we live, is semi-rural and not densely populated. We do have one north-south state highway that is heavily traveled during rush hour with commuters heading north to DC and south to a naval base and its affiliated high-tech outfits. We've been lucky in not having a large number of reported cases. In spite of the fact that your main exposure would be people spitting out the window on Rt 4 as they go by at 50, you still have a higher per capita rate of death and infection. I wouldn't be bragging about that. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/20 12:05 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: Tim wrote: My county has 2 reported cases and no deaths. Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Are you in Lee County, with 961 known cases and 37 deaths so far? Last time I checked, we have about 130 known cases here in Calvert, with 7 deaths. No one goes where you live. Because that is where Flyover Deplorable live? I don't know much about where Tim lives. Our county, where we live, is semi-rural and not densely populated. We do have one north-south state highway that is heavily traveled during rush hour with commuters heading north to DC and south to a naval base and its affiliated high-tech outfits. We've been lucky in not having a large number of reported cases. We live in a suburban area. We have two cases in the local hospital. 80k people in our city, and lots of them High Tech workers. So lots of travel, lots of Indians and Asians and so we should be a hotbed. I commuted 26 miles to most of my jobs, so we are both a bedroom community Silicon Valley as well as a tech hotbed here. $60 billion dollar economy community. Which insinuates the COVID infection is not as bad as the media and the healthcare top level are stating. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/20 10:36 AM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 07:10:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/26/2020 1:32 AM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 04:09:13 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 02:46:13 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 4/25/2020 7:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Listening to Paul Romer, an economics professor and former former world bank economist. He wants a $100 million program to test *everyone* in the US biweekly for the covid-19 virus, realizing that a person could be negative today but go out and become infected tomorrow.Â* He is proposing this to make sure we can "open" the country/economy again. I think I heard that so far 5 million people have been tested in the USA and this is after a herculean effort to get more test machines and test kits distributed. How the hell does he expect to test *everyone* biweekly as a condition for people to go back to work? I am not even sure if it would be legal to mandate the tests. Make that "$100 *billion* program, not $100 million. I commented on the $100 million. So how many tests can a person get for $300? Yeah $100Billion sounds right but if you are just looking for active cases you are wasting your money. In real life sample antibody testing is all you need anyway. You can make projections from there. They are still watching the people with antibodies to be sure they really are immune, If not, it may shoot the hell out of the plans for a vaccine. Most vaccines are far from perfect anyway. Your average flu vaccine is 50-75% effective. The flu vaccine is not against all flu, is formulated for the suspected flus of that year. Some suspects don’t cooperate. Why would we think this corona virus is any different? There is at least one expert's opinion that I read that a vaccine for covid-19 (being a corona type virus) may be impossible to develop. Apparently, it has been tried before for the general category of this type of virus and all attempts have been unsuccessful. It's not a H1N1 type virus. The common cold is a corona virus and we know how that works. This might just be another seasonal thing that we have to live with. I assume the more antibodies we develop over time, the less this will affect us. Maybe that is why so many people shake this off so easily, they have had hundreds of colds and beat them all, leaving trails of antibodies behind. Gosh, I didn't know we knew what percentage of Americans had contracted COVID-19, what percentage of those had only mild symptoms, what percentage had no symptoms, and how antibodies, if you have them, work against COVID-19. But, then, I'm not an amateur epidemiologist like you are. You should be on Trump's panel, as you have so many answers to what is still pretty much unknown. Are you in Lee County, with 961 known cases and 37 deaths so far? Last time I checked, we have about 130 known cases here in Calvert, with 7 deaths. Actually easy these days to do some research with the internet. I realize you are not an epidemiologist, as you have a literature degree from a Kansas college. I also realize that you read no research not tied to your political leanings. Unlike my cousin with her Phd microbiology degree who work in the industry , I also did work in the bioengineering field with an engineering degree. Which required research. Since they are only testing for sick rookie, and not recovered people except in a few,limited studies, we have no real clue as to the true range of this decease. |
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