On Thu, 24 May 2018 20:05:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/24/2018 6:42 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2018 3:57 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/24/18 3:46 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
It's funny, the Dutch feel the same way about Heineken. They say it's
brewed for Americans
.......
It is. It’s all watered down. 7% alcohol here, 40% there...



Unlikely.


Could be but not likely Heinekens. The record in Europe for
alcohol content in beer is "Snake Vemon", a Scottish brew
with an alcohol content of 67.5 percent.




Lots of places in the USA beer is limited to about 10%. Have to call it
something else if over that. Ale, malt liquor, etc.



The newest version (2017) of Sam Adams Utopias is 28% alcohol and is
marketed as "high alcohol beer". $200 a bottle. But, you are right,
it is illegal in eleven states. Legal in MA though.


Ah, that explains the extremely stringent gun control laws in MA.

On Fri, 25 May 2018 00:04:14 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
Alex wrote:
Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Thursday, 24 May 2018 13:45:27 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/24/18 12:05 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2018 08:20:26 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/24/18 2:15 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 May 2018 21:43:35 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2018 08:38:14 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/23/18 6:56 AM, Tim wrote:
May
- show quoted text -
Can you blame them. Free stuff is hard to resist.

....

And when you rob Peter to pay Paul, youll always have Pauls support.

The 1% are robbing this country of everything.
==
You spent your first 10 years on this group trying to convince
everyone that you were a 1 percenter. Then, when we all discovered
that you were a lying, bankrupt fraud, suddenly 1 percenters became
the enemy.
Actually between Harry and the fair Dr, they are in the 1% if we can
believe his claims. ($308,001 a year). Maybe they are robbing us.

I barely squeaked into six figures in calendar 2017, but that was by
design. Perhaps when we relocated to the Edge of Redneckville, I can
start up another Ersatz Christian Church of Fundamentalism, and rake in
The Big Bucks.
OK so we say you made $100k and you bragged that your wife is more
like $250k. You are a 1%er

No, my wife isn't close to $200k, let along $250k. Her doctoral buddy in
Savannah and Hilton Head is pulling in $150 to $225 an hour, though. No
insurance accepted. She gives her patients a receipt they can present to
their insurance companies. Dealing with insurance companies is the worst
part of being in practice, even worse, I am told, than dealing with
patients with borderline personality disorders.

That explains why The John and his bowl of turds can't get the help they
so sorely need. No professional wants to deal with them.

Canadian Healthcare seems to have failed you also.


Life has failed him.


Don is happy and well adjusted, especially in comparison to you right wing
asswipes.


How do you know? You never claimed a university degree in psychology.

He is calling a person whose comments center on turds and toilet bowls 'well adjusted'.

~SNERK~

On 5/25/2018 7:20 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2018 20:05:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/24/2018 6:42 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2018 3:57 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/24/18 3:46 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
It's funny, the Dutch feel the same way about Heineken. They say it's
brewed for Americans
.......
It is. It’s all watered down. 7% alcohol here, 40% there...



Unlikely.


Could be but not likely Heinekens. The record in Europe for
alcohol content in beer is "Snake Vemon", a Scottish brew
with an alcohol content of 67.5 percent.




Lots of places in the USA beer is limited to about 10%. Have to call it
something else if over that. Ale, malt liquor, etc.



The newest version (2017) of Sam Adams Utopias is 28% alcohol and is
marketed as "high alcohol beer". $200 a bottle. But, you are right,
it is illegal in eleven states. Legal in MA though.


Ah, that explains the extremely stringent gun control laws in MA.



I can assure you from experience that Utopias is supposed to be
sipped like a liqueur and only in small amounts. Trying to
drink it like regular beer can be life threatening. :-)

On Fri, 25 May 2018 07:35:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/25/2018 7:20 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2018 20:05:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/24/2018 6:42 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2018 3:57 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/24/18 3:46 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
It's funny, the Dutch feel the same way about Heineken. They say it's
brewed for Americans
.......
It is. It’s all watered down. 7% alcohol here, 40% there...



Unlikely.


Could be but not likely Heinekens. The record in Europe for
alcohol content in beer is "Snake Vemon", a Scottish brew
with an alcohol content of 67.5 percent.




Lots of places in the USA beer is limited to about 10%. Have to call it
something else if over that. Ale, malt liquor, etc.



The newest version (2017) of Sam Adams Utopias is 28% alcohol and is
marketed as "high alcohol beer". $200 a bottle. But, you are right,
it is illegal in eleven states. Legal in MA though.


Ah, that explains the extremely stringent gun control laws in MA.



I can assure you from experience that Utopias is supposed to be
sipped like a liqueur and only in small amounts. Trying to
drink it like regular beer can be life threatening. :-)


I don't drink, but if someone offerred me a taste, I'd try it just based on the comments you've made
about it. I thought I'd found a good deal on it, 'til I read more closely.

https://www.ebay.com/i/222986100962?chn=ps

I suppose this is more like it.

https://www.liquorstore-online.com/6...caAsxvEALw_wcB

I'll have to pass on the whole bottle I'm afraid.

On 5/25/2018 8:58 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2018 07:35:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/25/2018 7:20 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2018 20:05:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/24/2018 6:42 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2018 3:57 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/24/18 3:46 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
It's funny, the Dutch feel the same way about Heineken. They say it's
brewed for Americans
.......
It is. It’s all watered down. 7% alcohol here, 40% there...



Unlikely.


Could be but not likely Heinekens. The record in Europe for
alcohol content in beer is "Snake Vemon", a Scottish brew
with an alcohol content of 67.5 percent.




Lots of places in the USA beer is limited to about 10%. Have to call it
something else if over that. Ale, malt liquor, etc.



The newest version (2017) of Sam Adams Utopias is 28% alcohol and is
marketed as "high alcohol beer". $200 a bottle. But, you are right,
it is illegal in eleven states. Legal in MA though.


Ah, that explains the extremely stringent gun control laws in MA.



I can assure you from experience that Utopias is supposed to be
sipped like a liqueur and only in small amounts. Trying to
drink it like regular beer can be life threatening. :-)


I don't drink, but if someone offerred me a taste, I'd try it just based on the comments you've made
about it. I thought I'd found a good deal on it, 'til I read more closely.

https://www.ebay.com/i/222986100962?chn=ps

I suppose this is more like it.

https://www.liquorstore-online.com/6...caAsxvEALw_wcB

I'll have to pass on the whole bottle I'm afraid.



$75 for the empty bottle? People on eBay will try to sell anything.

The eBay listing for a full bottle in your link is a rip-off. They
don't sell for that much money. Retailers sell it for $200.

On 5/25/18 9:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/25/2018 8:58 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2018 07:35:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/25/2018 7:20 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2018 20:05:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/24/2018 6:42 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2018 3:57 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/24/18 3:46 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
It's funny, the Dutch feel the same way about Heineken. They
say it's
brewed for Americans
.......
It is. It’s all watered down. 7% alcohol here, 40% there...



Unlikely.


Could be but not likely Heinekens.Â* The record in Europe for
alcohol content in beer is "Snake Vemon", a Scottish brew
with an alcohol content of 67.5 percent.




Lots of places in the USA beer is limited to about 10%.Â*Â* Have to
call it
something else if over that.Â*Â* Ale, malt liquor, etc.



The newest version (2017) of Sam Adams Utopias is 28% alcohol and is
marketed as "high alcohol beer".Â* $200 a bottle.Â* But, you are right,
it is illegal in eleven states.Â*Â* Legal in MA though.


Ah, that explains the extremely stringent gun control laws in MA.



I can assure you from experience that Utopias is supposed to be
sipped like a liqueur and only in small amounts.Â* Trying to
drink it like regular beer can be life threatening.Â* :-)


I don't drink, but if someone offerred me a taste, I'd try it just
based on the comments you've made
about it. I thought I'd found a good deal on it, 'til I read more
closely.

https://www.ebay.com/i/222986100962?chn=ps

I suppose this is more like it.

https://www.liquorstore-online.com/6...caAsxvEALw_wcB


I'll have to pass on the whole bottle I'm afraid.



$75 for the empty bottle?Â*Â* People on eBay will try to sell anything.

The eBay listing for a full bottle in your link is a rip-off.Â* They
don't sell for that much money.Â* Retailers sell it for $200.


My late father-in-law was a collector of "foreign" beer bottles, though
he wasn't much of a drinker. He had at least 100 bottles from different
brands and countries. My contribution was an empty Montello beer bottle
a buddy found for me in south Texas. It was a beer brewed in the Yucatan
Peninsula. The brand was bought out and disappeared for a while. I drank
a few on my first trip to Cancun and thought it was very tasty. My Texas
buddy said a few years ago the brand had been "revived," but it wasn't
the same.

On 5/25/18 6:33 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 5/24/18 4:17 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 5/24/18 2:39 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 5/24/18 12:01 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2018 08:10:54 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/24/18 2:10 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 May 2018 17:42:24 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/23/18 5:08 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/23/18 1:51 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 May 2018 13:31:24 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/23/18 1:22 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 May 2018 11:37:18 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/23/18 10:40 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 May 2018 08:38:14 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/23/18 6:56 AM, Tim wrote:

May
- show quoted text -
Can you blame them. Free stuff is hard to resist.

....

And when you rob Peter to pay Paul, you?ll always have Paul?s support.


The 1% are robbing this country of everything.

They are usually providing a service that people eagerly flock to.


And you probably believe that ****, too.

You don't think people want to buy things from Amazon (Bezos), run
Windows PCs (Gates) , yack on Facebook (Zuckerberg) and look **** up
on Google (Page/Brin)? Those are 5 of the 6 richest guys in the US.
Buffett (#3) is just smart enough to get his money out in front of
what people want and cash in on it.


Amazon sells a huge variety of stuff, typically at lower prices than can
be easily found elsewhere, and delivers to your door. Microsoft sells
software for which there are many competing products. Zuckerberg gives
his flagship product away and hopefully properly address FB's security
and privacy issues. There are many competitors for google, and the apps
are given away. That advertisers pay to be on most of these products is
the price one pays for them, the same way one pays for commercial TV and
radio.

Free TV ends up costing the consumer more each year
than pay TV, just in the price they pay for everything advertised on
that TV.


No one forces watchers of commercial TV to buy anything.


But those watchers of commercial TV buy products. And those products pass
along the costs of the company to operate. So who pays the $million bucks
for s Super Bowl advert? Who paid for your salary when you worked for an
Ad agency?


Advertising creates and sustains demand for products and services. How
enlightening of you to admit that. The owners of the agencies I worked
for paid my salary.

Actually advertising creates demand for a higher priced product that
is usually no better than the unadvertised product. It is just about
branding and hype.
That is why Budweiser costs more than Busch but there is actually an
imperceptible difference between them and certainly not two or three
bucks a 12 pack difference in production cost.


Actually, you don't know **** about advertising or marketing, but you
think you do. I wouldn't know about the taste or ingredient similarities
between Busch and Bud, as the three beers I might drink each summer
aren't these brands. I still have two Coronas left over from last
summer. I use Corona as the liquid base in which to steam hot dogs and
sauerkraut.

Let me get this right, You say I don't know **** then you admit you
don't know anything about the examples I cited.
I understand advertising is a good living for those in it but that
cost gets added to the price of the products they promote.


I've seen Bud and Busch TV and print ads, but I'm not much of a beer
drinker. I know, however, that beer is a consumer product and the brands
have many competitors. So, it is not unlike many other consumer
products. My comment about your lack of knowledge of marketing and
advertising stands.


Your expertice comes from your gig as a jingle writer?


I never had a "gig" as a jingle writer. I got to write and produce some
jingles when I worked for a AAAA ad agency.


The ad poeple I know in Chi and NY never heard of you.


By the way, I never worked in Chicago or New York City as an ad person.

That's obvious.


Obvious? You aren't literate enough to know anything about the ad business.

On 5/24/18 6:42 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:

16:40Keyser Soze
- hide quoted text -
On 5/24/18 2:38 PM, justan wrote:
Wrote in message:
On Thu, 24 May 2018 09:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 12:01:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2018 08:10:54 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Actually, you don't know **** about advertising or marketing, but you
think you do. I wouldn't know about the taste or ingredient similarities
between Busch and Bud, as the three beers I might drink each summer
aren't these brands. I still have two Coronas left over from last
summer. I use Corona as the liquid base in which to steam hot dogs and
sauerkraut.

Let me get this right, You say I don't know **** then you admit you
don't know anything about the examples I cited.
I understand advertising is a good living for those in it but that
cost gets added to the price of the products they promote.

He may know how to advertise something, but he's demonstrated he
doesn't understand how to run a successful business, so he doesn't
understand where those advertising dollars come from. (Hint: straight
off the bottom line)

One thing is for sure... he doesn't have a clue about beer. Corona? **** water.

Mexicans make fun of Corona as being a hyped up beer they wouldn't
water their garden with.
When you want to buy a Mexican a beer, get him a Modelo.


Mexicans are known for having creative uses for urine. You're
taking your chances drinking Mexican beer.


"How many golden showers were you the recipient of while you did nothing
in the naveee?"


SNERK!
At least one too many judging by his modus operandi in here.


Both of you are certainly crass. Harry seems to like to wallow in low
places, and bad writing.


There's no place I frequent that is "lower" than rec.boats. It's full of
right-wing trash. As for JustanAsshole's Naveee career, it's a beeg
seeecrit, just like the rest of his little life.

On Fri, 25 May 2018 10:11:28 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/24/18 6:42 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:

16:40Keyser Soze
- hide quoted text -
On 5/24/18 2:38 PM, justan wrote:
Wrote in message:
On Thu, 24 May 2018 09:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 12:01:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2018 08:10:54 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Actually, you don't know **** about advertising or marketing, but you
think you do. I wouldn't know about the taste or ingredient similarities
between Busch and Bud, as the three beers I might drink each summer
aren't these brands. I still have two Coronas left over from last
summer. I use Corona as the liquid base in which to steam hot dogs and
sauerkraut.

Let me get this right, You say I don't know **** then you admit you
don't know anything about the examples I cited.
I understand advertising is a good living for those in it but that
cost gets added to the price of the products they promote.

He may know how to advertise something, but he's demonstrated he
doesn't understand how to run a successful business, so he doesn't
understand where those advertising dollars come from. (Hint: straight
off the bottom line)

One thing is for sure... he doesn't have a clue about beer. Corona? **** water.

Mexicans make fun of Corona as being a hyped up beer they wouldn't
water their garden with.
When you want to buy a Mexican a beer, get him a Modelo.


Mexicans are known for having creative uses for urine. You're
taking your chances drinking Mexican beer.


"How many golden showers were you the recipient of while you did nothing
in the naveee?"


SNERK!
At least one too many judging by his modus operandi in here.


Both of you are certainly crass. Harry seems to like to wallow in low
places, and bad writing.


There's no place I frequent that is "lower" than rec.boats. It's full of
right-wing trash. As for JustanAsshole's Naveee career, it's a beeg
seeecrit, just like the rest of his little life.

Again, for the umpteenth time - what is it you need to know about Justan?