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Watching Bernie today on Wolf
Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote: He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried so hard to stop him in 2016. What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will receive a tax hike. Even CNN has this tool to see what you will save. I tried a variety of scenarios and *all* resolved in a cut. Mine is far less than the middle class as it's defined... http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politi...ill/index.html Looks like I save 3.1% |
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 03:45:20 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Alex wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote: He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried so hard to stop him in 2016. What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will receive a tax hike. Even CNN has this tool to see what you will save. I tried a variety of scenarios and *all* resolved in a cut. Mine is far less than the middle class as it's defined... http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politi...ill/index.html Looks like I save 3.1% After tax income goes up 2.4% here but ~$2500 is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. It is not as good as the $3k I guessed tho. |
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 03:45:20 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Alex wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote: He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried so hard to stop him in 2016. What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will receive a tax hike. Even CNN has this tool to see what you will save. I tried a variety of scenarios and *all* resolved in a cut. Mine is far less than the middle class as it's defined... http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politi...ill/index.html Looks like I save 3.1% After tax income goes up 2.4% here but ~$2500 is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. It is not as good as the $3k I guessed tho. And I am in a high tax state. I take standardized deduction as I have no mortgage, other than the Medicare and supplemental insurance, not a lot of medical costs. Since most of my income is qualified dividends, I pay at the 20% rate. Since those dividends come from 39% taxed already money, the dividends should go up. And why are the Liberals worried about a $1.5 trillion deficit over 10 years? They seemed happy with a $10 trillion over 8 years with only a 25% return on the overspending. |
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 19:36:58 -0500, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote: He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried so hard to stop him in 2016. What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will receive a tax hike. Even CNN has this tool to see what you will save. I tried a variety of scenarios and *all* resolved in a cut. Mine is far less than the middle class as it's defined... http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politi...ill/index.html Mine go up. Might have to forgo that new Kimber for another year. Doggone it! |
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John H wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 19:36:58 -0500, Alex wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote: He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried so hard to stop him in 2016. What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will receive a tax hike. Even CNN has this tool to see what you will save. I tried a variety of scenarios and *all* resolved in a cut. Mine is far less than the middle class as it's defined... http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politi...ill/index.html Mine go up. Might have to forgo that new Kimber for another year. Doggone it! I thought you had one. Looking at another? |
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Watching Bernie today on Wolf
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:33:04 -0500, Alex wrote:
John H wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 19:36:58 -0500, Alex wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote: He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried so hard to stop him in 2016. What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will receive a tax hike. Even CNN has this tool to see what you will save. I tried a variety of scenarios and *all* resolved in a cut. Mine is far less than the middle class as it's defined... http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politi...ill/index.html Mine go up. Might have to forgo that new Kimber for another year. Doggone it! I thought you had one. Looking at another? The Micro 9 is awfully tempting. http://www.kimberamerica.com/micro-9-dn-1 |
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Watching Bernie today on Wolf
John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:33:04 -0500, Alex wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 19:36:58 -0500, Alex wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote: He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried so hard to stop him in 2016. What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will receive a tax hike. Even CNN has this tool to see what you will save. I tried a variety of scenarios and *all* resolved in a cut. Mine is far less than the middle class as it's defined... http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politi...ill/index.html Mine go up. Might have to forgo that new Kimber for another year. Doggone it! I thought you had one. Looking at another? The Micro 9 is awfully tempting. http://www.kimberamerica.com/micro-9-dn-1 It's got a sweet trigger. I'm going to shoot it tomorrow. |
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