Watching Bernie today on Wolf
 

He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose
health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to
buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good
spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried
so hard to stop him in 2016.

Watching Bernie today on Wolf
 

On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote:

He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose
health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to
buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good
spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried
so hard to stop him in 2016.


What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming
that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut
due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and
their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will
receive a tax hike.

Watching Bernie today on Wolf
 

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote:

He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose
health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to
buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good
spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried
so hard to stop him in 2016.


What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming
that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut
due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and
their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will
receive a tax hike.





Which party has a history of lying the most?
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Watching Bernie today on Wolf
 

On 12/20/2017 1:48 PM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote:

He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose
health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to
buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good
spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried
so hard to stop him in 2016.


What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming
that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut
due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and
their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will
receive a tax hike.





Which party has a history of lying the most?



I'd say Hillary.

Watching Bernie today on Wolf
 

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 1:38:12 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote:

He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose
health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to
buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good
spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried
so hard to stop him in 2016.


What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming
that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut
due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and
their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will
receive a tax hike.

I read an article yesterday that started out saying how the majority of the tax cuts were going to corporations and the rich. They waited for a few paragraphs before showing the actual numbers that contradicted their statement, apparently hoping most people wouldn't read down that far.

Watching Bernie today on Wolf
 

On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:38:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote:

He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose
health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to
buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good
spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried
so hard to stop him in 2016.


What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming
that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut
due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and
their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will
receive a tax hike.



The reality is the number who will pay no income taxes at all will go
up, maybe to over 50%. It is hard to reconcile how this raises taxes
for the 80%the democrats talk about.
As I said in my "middle" thread, the people being hurt by the SALT
thing will be the top 3 or 4 % in blue states. They even pushed the
mortgage limit up to 3 quarter million.
If you have a $750k mortgage, you are not in the middle of anything.

Watching Bernie today on Wolf
 

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 2:50:38 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:38:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote:

He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose
health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to
buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good
spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried
so hard to stop him in 2016.


What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming
that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut
due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and
their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will
receive a tax hike.



The reality is the number who will pay no income taxes at all will go
up, maybe to over 50%. It is hard to reconcile how this raises taxes
for the 80%the democrats talk about.
As I said in my "middle" thread, the people being hurt by the SALT
thing will be the top 3 or 4 % in blue states. They even pushed the
mortgage limit up to 3 quarter million.
If you have a $750k mortgage, you are not in the middle of anything.

Tell NBC that. A week or two ago, they ran a story about the tax plan and used a couple in NJ as their "average Americans", interviewing them on how the plan would hurt them. They were living in a $750k house.

Watching Bernie today on Wolf
 

On 12/20/17 1:48 PM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote:

He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose
health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to
buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good
spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried
so hard to stop him in 2016.


What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming
that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut
due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and
their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will
receive a tax hike.





Which party has a history of lying the most?


No major league politician lies more than Donald Trump. It's been
documented more than once.

Watching Bernie today on Wolf
 

On 12/20/17 1:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2017 1:48 PM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 12/20/2017 1:14 PM, wrote:

He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose
health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to
buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good
spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried
so hard to stop him in 2016.


What amazes me is how the Republicans and their pundits are proclaiming
that 80 percent or more of the population will benefit from a tax cut
due to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act while at the same time the Democrats and
their pundits are proclaiming that 80 percent of the population will
receive a tax hike.





Which party has a history of lying the most?



I'd say Hillary.

Nope. Trump is far, far worse.

Watching Bernie today on Wolf
 

On 12/20/17 1:14 PM, wrote:
He does use some misleading DNC talking points like "13 million lose
health care" instead of the truth that 13 million can choose not to
buy it but he does make some valid points and he is a very good
spokesman for the DNC party line. It makes you wonder why they tried
so hard to stop him in 2016.



Bernie is not a Democrat. I wouldn't vote for him and neither would many
Dems.