On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.



I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of
days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey
with the drone instead. Much safer.
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On 9/17/2017 5:15 PM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.



I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of
days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey
with the drone instead. Much safer.



Learned your lesson, huh? :-)

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 5:15 PM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.



I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of
days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey
with the drone instead. Much safer.



Learned your lesson, huh? :-)




Yup!
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.



I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of
days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey
with the drone instead. Much safer.

You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long
time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery.

John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.



I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of
days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey
with the drone instead. Much safer.

You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long
time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery.


I was talking about the house roof John. Getting on the RV roof is
pretty easy but I'm careful about it.
What seams are you talking about?
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:29:32 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.



I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of
days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey
with the drone instead. Much safer.

You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long
time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery.


I was talking about the house roof John. Getting on the RV roof is
pretty easy but I'm careful about it.
What seams are you talking about?

The EPMD roof is full of seams which are covered with a self-levelling caulk. Sides, front, rear,
any openings (AC, vents, antenna, etc.) - anywhere the rubber roof meets a different material. The
caulk can dry and shrink and then leak. Or, the rubber can be holed by tree branch. I crawl over the
whole thing at least twice a year. To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a
bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool.

John H Wrote in message:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:29:32 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.



I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of
days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey
with the drone instead. Much safer.

You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long
time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery.


I was talking about the house roof John. Getting on the RV roof is
pretty easy but I'm careful about it.
What seams are you talking about?

The EPMD roof is full of seams which are covered with a self-levelling caulk. Sides, front, rear,
any openings (AC, vents, antenna, etc.) - anywhere the rubber roof meets a different material. The
caulk can dry and shrink and then leak. Or, the rubber can be holed by tree branch. I crawl over the
whole thing at least twice a year. To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a
bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool.


Oh. I was thinking your roof might not have been made with a
single sheet of material. Mine has lap sealant anywhere there is
a roof penetration, same as yours. I overlay sealant once or
twice a year anywhere I see it cracking.
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John H Wrote in message:




To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a
bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool.


I don't do house roofs either. If I get four feet from the edge, severe
vertigo sets in. :-)

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:29:58 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

John H Wrote in message:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:29:32 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.



I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of
days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey
with the drone instead. Much safer.

You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long
time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery.


I was talking about the house roof John. Getting on the RV roof is
pretty easy but I'm careful about it.
What seams are you talking about?

The EPMD roof is full of seams which are covered with a self-levelling caulk. Sides, front, rear,
any openings (AC, vents, antenna, etc.) - anywhere the rubber roof meets a different material. The
caulk can dry and shrink and then leak. Or, the rubber can be holed by tree branch. I crawl over the
whole thing at least twice a year. To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a
bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool.


Oh. I was thinking your roof might not have been made with a
single sheet of material. Mine has lap sealant anywhere there is
a roof penetration, same as yours. I overlay sealant once or
twice a year anywhere I see it cracking.