On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:33:17 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:22:22 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:24:47 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:17:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
The Bluegrass Cruise aboard the Royal Carribean ship 'Brilliance of the Seas' was a super
experience. The bands were great and the food was almost as good as on Disney cruises. Most
everything else was superfluous.

Weather got rough on the way back from Cozumel. Ship travelling about 20 knots almost directly into
30-40mph winds made for a rolling, bumpy ride. They closed the 'walking deck' for the entire trip
back, so there was no way to walk off the blubber that got added from the fine dining.

Altogether, I'd do it again, and may do so next year - but on the Bahama's run.


Glad you had a good time. RC is a nice cruise line. We did a Greek
islands tour on Splendor Of The Seas several years ago. Nice
older ship. Nice, younger, pursors and hospitality crew.
:-)

I was impressed. I thought nothing could compare to the Disney cruises. RC compares very favorably
and is much less expensive. Of course, RC doesn't have Castaway Cay!


A Disney cruise would be too rich for my blood. I can barely
afford Ft. Wilderness.

They ain't cheap!

We are pretty much done with cruising but I might do a Bright Horizons
cruise someplace cool (Galapagos or something) or a Viking cruise in
Europe.
I would have to save my lunch money for a while for either of them
tho.

I've heard some horror stories of Viking in Europe. Many of the rivers were quite low and the
passengers were getting bussed from point to point. Wasn't fun. We took several short Rhine or
Neckar River cruises, which were very enjoyable one-day events. Disney, and probably others, have
Mediterranean cruises in the summer. I wouldn't mind going on one of those.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:30:37 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:24:47 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:17:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
The Bluegrass Cruise aboard the Royal Carribean ship 'Brilliance of
the Seas' was a super
experience. The bands were great and the food was almost as good as
on Disney cruises. Most
everything else was superfluous.

Weather got rough on the way back from Cozumel. Ship travelling about
20 knots almost directly into
30-40mph winds made for a rolling, bumpy ride. They closed the
'walking deck' for the entire trip
back, so there was no way to walk off the blubber that got added from the fine dining.

Altogether, I'd do it again, and may do so next year - but on the Bahama's run.


Glad you had a good time. RC is a nice cruise line. We did a Greek
islands tour on Splendor Of The Seas several years ago. Nice
older ship. Nice, younger, pursors and hospitality crew.
:-)

I was impressed. I thought nothing could compare to the Disney cruises.
RC compares very favorably
and is much less expensive. Of course, RC doesn't have Castaway Cay!


A Disney cruise would be too rich for my blood. I can barely
afford Ft. Wilderness.

They ain't cheap!


Too many people too many kids. I am tired after 4 days with the grandkids.

Luckily, there are many places which are 'adults only' including swimming pools, coffee shops, etc.
During the day most of the kids are participating in kids' activities and aren't seen. If they are
out then they're probably in the big swimming pool. That's the place to avoid.

Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:30:37 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:24:47 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:17:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
The Bluegrass Cruise aboard the Royal Carribean ship 'Brilliance of
the Seas' was a super
experience. The bands were great and the food was almost as good as
on Disney cruises. Most
everything else was superfluous.

Weather got rough on the way back from Cozumel. Ship travelling about
20 knots almost directly into
30-40mph winds made for a rolling, bumpy ride. They closed the
'walking deck' for the entire trip
back, so there was no way to walk off the blubber that got added
from the fine dining.

Altogether, I'd do it again, and may do so next year - but on the Bahama's run.


Glad you had a good time. RC is a nice cruise line. We did a Greek
islands tour on Splendor Of The Seas several years ago. Nice
older ship. Nice, younger, pursors and hospitality crew.
:-)

I was impressed. I thought nothing could compare to the Disney cruises.
RC compares very favorably
and is much less expensive. Of course, RC doesn't have Castaway Cay!


A Disney cruise would be too rich for my blood. I can barely
afford Ft. Wilderness.

They ain't cheap!


Too many people too many kids. I am tired after 4 days with the grandkids.

Luckily, there are many places which are 'adults only' including swimming
pools, coffee shops, etc.
During the day most of the kids are participating in kids' activities and
aren't seen. If they are
out then they're probably in the big swimming pool. That's the place to avoid.


We have been on a couple cruises. Just not our thing. We can go to Europe
or the South Pacific for a month plus and are happy.

On 1/13/2017 1:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:30:37 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:24:47 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:17:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
The Bluegrass Cruise aboard the Royal Carribean ship 'Brilliance of
the Seas' was a super
experience. The bands were great and the food was almost as good as
on Disney cruises. Most
everything else was superfluous.

Weather got rough on the way back from Cozumel. Ship travelling about
20 knots almost directly into
30-40mph winds made for a rolling, bumpy ride. They closed the
'walking deck' for the entire trip
back, so there was no way to walk off the blubber that got added
from the fine dining.

Altogether, I'd do it again, and may do so next year - but on the Bahama's run.


Glad you had a good time. RC is a nice cruise line. We did a Greek
islands tour on Splendor Of The Seas several years ago. Nice
older ship. Nice, younger, pursors and hospitality crew.
:-)

I was impressed. I thought nothing could compare to the Disney cruises.
RC compares very favorably
and is much less expensive. Of course, RC doesn't have Castaway Cay!


A Disney cruise would be too rich for my blood. I can barely
afford Ft. Wilderness.

They ain't cheap!


Too many people too many kids. I am tired after 4 days with the grandkids.

Luckily, there are many places which are 'adults only' including swimming
pools, coffee shops, etc.
During the day most of the kids are participating in kids' activities and
aren't seen. If they are
out then they're probably in the big swimming pool. That's the place to avoid.


We have been on a couple cruises. Just not our thing. We can go to Europe
or the South Pacific for a month plus and are happy.



I've been on enough cruises to last me, courtesy of Uncle Sam.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:01:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/13/2017 1:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:30:37 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:24:47 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:17:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
The Bluegrass Cruise aboard the Royal Carribean ship 'Brilliance of
the Seas' was a super
experience. The bands were great and the food was almost as good as
on Disney cruises. Most
everything else was superfluous.

Weather got rough on the way back from Cozumel. Ship travelling about
20 knots almost directly into
30-40mph winds made for a rolling, bumpy ride. They closed the
'walking deck' for the entire trip
back, so there was no way to walk off the blubber that got added
from the fine dining.

Altogether, I'd do it again, and may do so next year - but on the Bahama's run.


Glad you had a good time. RC is a nice cruise line. We did a Greek
islands tour on Splendor Of The Seas several years ago. Nice
older ship. Nice, younger, pursors and hospitality crew.
:-)

I was impressed. I thought nothing could compare to the Disney cruises.
RC compares very favorably
and is much less expensive. Of course, RC doesn't have Castaway Cay!


A Disney cruise would be too rich for my blood. I can barely
afford Ft. Wilderness.

They ain't cheap!


Too many people too many kids. I am tired after 4 days with the grandkids.

Luckily, there are many places which are 'adults only' including swimming
pools, coffee shops, etc.
During the day most of the kids are participating in kids' activities and
aren't seen. If they are
out then they're probably in the big swimming pool. That's the place to avoid.


We have been on a couple cruises. Just not our thing. We can go to Europe
or the South Pacific for a month plus and are happy.



I've been on enough cruises to last me, courtesy of Uncle Sam.

When stationed in Los Angeles, I met a Navy Reserve lieutenant commander who offered to get me a
ride on a destroyer. He was posted in San Diego and going out on his annual training tour in the
summer. So I put in for leave and was really, really looking forward to this trip. It's been a
lifelong dream of mine to go to sea on a Navy destroyer.

Well, we had an intramural softball game. Lots of beer. I was playing second base. Guy hit a ball, I
caught it, and dove into second base to get the guy out. In doing so I broke a bone in my hand and
cracked a kneecap. Had a cast on hand and arm and one on my leg.

Couldn't go on my destroyer ride. One of my biggest disappointments in life. I envy you your
cruises, at least one or two of them!

1:02 PMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
I've been on enough cruises to last me, courtesy of Uncle Sam.
...,,,

Thats why I pass on state fair helicopter rides...

On 1/13/2017 3:32 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:01:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/13/2017 1:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:30:37 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:24:47 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:17:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
The Bluegrass Cruise aboard the Royal Carribean ship 'Brilliance of
the Seas' was a super
experience. The bands were great and the food was almost as good as
on Disney cruises. Most
everything else was superfluous.

Weather got rough on the way back from Cozumel. Ship travelling about
20 knots almost directly into
30-40mph winds made for a rolling, bumpy ride. They closed the
'walking deck' for the entire trip
back, so there was no way to walk off the blubber that got added
from the fine dining.

Altogether, I'd do it again, and may do so next year - but on the Bahama's run.


Glad you had a good time. RC is a nice cruise line. We did a Greek
islands tour on Splendor Of The Seas several years ago. Nice
older ship. Nice, younger, pursors and hospitality crew.
:-)

I was impressed. I thought nothing could compare to the Disney cruises.
RC compares very favorably
and is much less expensive. Of course, RC doesn't have Castaway Cay!


A Disney cruise would be too rich for my blood. I can barely
afford Ft. Wilderness.

They ain't cheap!


Too many people too many kids. I am tired after 4 days with the grandkids.

Luckily, there are many places which are 'adults only' including swimming
pools, coffee shops, etc.
During the day most of the kids are participating in kids' activities and
aren't seen. If they are
out then they're probably in the big swimming pool. That's the place to avoid.


We have been on a couple cruises. Just not our thing. We can go to Europe
or the South Pacific for a month plus and are happy.



I've been on enough cruises to last me, courtesy of Uncle Sam.

When stationed in Los Angeles, I met a Navy Reserve lieutenant commander who offered to get me a
ride on a destroyer. He was posted in San Diego and going out on his annual training tour in the
summer. So I put in for leave and was really, really looking forward to this trip. It's been a
lifelong dream of mine to go to sea on a Navy destroyer.

Well, we had an intramural softball game. Lots of beer. I was playing second base. Guy hit a ball, I
caught it, and dove into second base to get the guy out. In doing so I broke a bone in my hand and
cracked a kneecap. Had a cast on hand and arm and one on my leg.

Couldn't go on my destroyer ride. One of my biggest disappointments in life. I envy you your
cruises, at least one or two of them!



Oh, it's lots of fun. I remember my first "underway". It was in the
North Atlantic in January. In those days tradition called for a little
"initiation" for all newbies and I was called up to the bridge for
something having to do with it. I stood horrified as I looked out the
bridge windows at the mountainous waves we were plowing through. They
caused the ship to feel as if it was going near vertical, then the bow
came down ... and down ... and down ... until it was completely
underwater. The whole ship shuddered as the bow slowly rose again out
of the water, shaking all the water off. Oh yes, great fun.

When the galley opened for chow time, the crew lined up along the side
of the ship (outside) waiting to go through the chow line. In rough
seas it was almost like watching the spectator "wave" at football or
baseball games. Everyone in line held onto an overhead rail and pulled
themselves up off the deck when the "greenies" broke over the sides and
flooded where we stood. I think the scariest experience was taking a 56
degree roll. Even the old timer Chiefs paid attention.

The Russians used to stalk us, taking pictures of the special gear we
had and occasionally pulled right up alongside trying to disrupt what we
were doing. In the time honored spirit of American Navy diplomacy, we'd
all man the rail and give them a one fingered salute.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:12:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/13/2017 3:32 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:01:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/13/2017 1:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:30:37 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:24:47 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:17:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
The Bluegrass Cruise aboard the Royal Carribean ship 'Brilliance of
the Seas' was a super
experience. The bands were great and the food was almost as good as
on Disney cruises. Most
everything else was superfluous.

Weather got rough on the way back from Cozumel. Ship travelling about
20 knots almost directly into
30-40mph winds made for a rolling, bumpy ride. They closed the
'walking deck' for the entire trip
back, so there was no way to walk off the blubber that got added
from the fine dining.

Altogether, I'd do it again, and may do so next year - but on the Bahama's run.


Glad you had a good time. RC is a nice cruise line. We did a Greek
islands tour on Splendor Of The Seas several years ago. Nice
older ship. Nice, younger, pursors and hospitality crew.
:-)

I was impressed. I thought nothing could compare to the Disney cruises.
RC compares very favorably
and is much less expensive. Of course, RC doesn't have Castaway Cay!


A Disney cruise would be too rich for my blood. I can barely
afford Ft. Wilderness.

They ain't cheap!


Too many people too many kids. I am tired after 4 days with the grandkids.

Luckily, there are many places which are 'adults only' including swimming
pools, coffee shops, etc.
During the day most of the kids are participating in kids' activities and
aren't seen. If they are
out then they're probably in the big swimming pool. That's the place to avoid.


We have been on a couple cruises. Just not our thing. We can go to Europe
or the South Pacific for a month plus and are happy.



I've been on enough cruises to last me, courtesy of Uncle Sam.

When stationed in Los Angeles, I met a Navy Reserve lieutenant commander who offered to get me a
ride on a destroyer. He was posted in San Diego and going out on his annual training tour in the
summer. So I put in for leave and was really, really looking forward to this trip. It's been a
lifelong dream of mine to go to sea on a Navy destroyer.

Well, we had an intramural softball game. Lots of beer. I was playing second base. Guy hit a ball, I
caught it, and dove into second base to get the guy out. In doing so I broke a bone in my hand and
cracked a kneecap. Had a cast on hand and arm and one on my leg.

Couldn't go on my destroyer ride. One of my biggest disappointments in life. I envy you your
cruises, at least one or two of them!



Oh, it's lots of fun. I remember my first "underway". It was in the
North Atlantic in January. In those days tradition called for a little
"initiation" for all newbies and I was called up to the bridge for
something having to do with it. I stood horrified as I looked out the
bridge windows at the mountainous waves we were plowing through. They
caused the ship to feel as if it was going near vertical, then the bow
came down ... and down ... and down ... until it was completely
underwater. The whole ship shuddered as the bow slowly rose again out
of the water, shaking all the water off. Oh yes, great fun.

When the galley opened for chow time, the crew lined up along the side
of the ship (outside) waiting to go through the chow line. In rough
seas it was almost like watching the spectator "wave" at football or
baseball games. Everyone in line held onto an overhead rail and pulled
themselves up off the deck when the "greenies" broke over the sides and
flooded where we stood. I think the scariest experience was taking a 56
degree roll. Even the old timer Chiefs paid attention.

The Russians used to stalk us, taking pictures of the special gear we
had and occasionally pulled right up alongside trying to disrupt what we
were doing. In the time honored spirit of American Navy diplomacy, we'd
all man the rail and give them a one fingered salute.

A destroyer in the North Sea! That's the dream. I would have settled for the Pacific though.

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/13/2017 1:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:30:37 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:24:47 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:17:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
The Bluegrass Cruise aboard the Royal Carribean ship 'Brilliance of
the Seas' was a super
experience. The bands were great and the food was almost as good as
on Disney cruises. Most
everything else was superfluous.

Weather got rough on the way back from Cozumel. Ship travelling about
20 knots almost directly into
30-40mph winds made for a rolling, bumpy ride. They closed the
'walking deck' for the entire trip
back, so there was no way to walk off the blubber that got added
from the fine dining.

Altogether, I'd do it again, and may do so next year - but on the Bahama's run.


Glad you had a good time. RC is a nice cruise line. We did a Greek
islands tour on Splendor Of The Seas several years ago. Nice
older ship. Nice, younger, pursors and hospitality crew.
:-)

I was impressed. I thought nothing could compare to the Disney cruises.
RC compares very favorably
and is much less expensive. Of course, RC doesn't have Castaway Cay!


A Disney cruise would be too rich for my blood. I can barely
afford Ft. Wilderness.

They ain't cheap!


Too many people too many kids. I am tired after 4 days with the grandkids.

Luckily, there are many places which are 'adults only' including swimming
pools, coffee shops, etc.
During the day most of the kids are participating in kids' activities and
aren't seen. If they are
out then they're probably in the big swimming pool. That's the place to avoid.


We have been on a couple cruises. Just not our thing. We can go to Europe
or the South Pacific for a month plus and are happy.



I've been on enough cruises to last me, courtesy of Uncle Sam.


I like boats and water. But spending lots of time at sea never appealed to
me. Could have gone to the California Maritime Academy, but did not want
to spend a life at sea. Found out later was not necessary.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:45:59 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/13/2017 1:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:30:37 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:24:47 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:17:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
The Bluegrass Cruise aboard the Royal Carribean ship 'Brilliance of
the Seas' was a super
experience. The bands were great and the food was almost as good as
on Disney cruises. Most
everything else was superfluous.

Weather got rough on the way back from Cozumel. Ship travelling about
20 knots almost directly into
30-40mph winds made for a rolling, bumpy ride. They closed the
'walking deck' for the entire trip
back, so there was no way to walk off the blubber that got added
from the fine dining.

Altogether, I'd do it again, and may do so next year - but on the Bahama's run.


Glad you had a good time. RC is a nice cruise line. We did a Greek
islands tour on Splendor Of The Seas several years ago. Nice
older ship. Nice, younger, pursors and hospitality crew.
:-)

I was impressed. I thought nothing could compare to the Disney cruises.
RC compares very favorably
and is much less expensive. Of course, RC doesn't have Castaway Cay!


A Disney cruise would be too rich for my blood. I can barely
afford Ft. Wilderness.

They ain't cheap!


Too many people too many kids. I am tired after 4 days with the grandkids.

Luckily, there are many places which are 'adults only' including swimming
pools, coffee shops, etc.
During the day most of the kids are participating in kids' activities and
aren't seen. If they are
out then they're probably in the big swimming pool. That's the place to avoid.


We have been on a couple cruises. Just not our thing. We can go to Europe
or the South Pacific for a month plus and are happy.



I've been on enough cruises to last me, courtesy of Uncle Sam.


I like boats and water. But spending lots of time at sea never appealed to
me. Could have gone to the California Maritime Academy, but did not want
to spend a life at sea. Found out later was not necessary.

With the reserve unit, we would have been at sea no more than two weeks. I could handle that I
think.