On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 07:40:33 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 19:09:13 -0500, wrote:


I am not talking about intentionally laying it down but that can just
happen if you get to aggressive with the brakes, particularly in the
woods.

Agreed! The woods is different! There are trees there than *will* just jump right out in front of
you. And hitting the brakes while on loose gravel or wet leaves is a good way to test your 'quick
dismount' skills.

OTOH
If you are going to hit something, having tires and springs out in
front is better than counting on your face shield to save you. ;-)

The closest I ever when to going down on the road was on the E street
expressway (under the Kennedy center). It was a little wet. I hit
those vinyl lane markers in the road and it was like ice. They had so
many markings on the road I thought I was never going to find asphalt
again. The guys behind me said they thought I was down about 3 times
but I managed to get it upright and going again with nothing but a
little peg scraping and a boost in my heart rate.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:00:25 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I learned my lesson riding a Honda in the snow. I am wondering, though,
how my 4WD Toyota Tacoma will do in the snow. It has
all-terrain/all-season tires, I think, plus a manual transmission, but,
of course, it suffers from the typical pickup truck ailment of not a lot
of weight on the rear tires. I only got the 4WD model because a number
of on-line reports indicated it did well in the snow. We'll see.

The thing you have to remember about 4wd is if you lose the back end,
the front is probably going with it. I hockey pucked my Jeep a few
times on the beltway before I figured out that I should leave it in 2
wheel until I needed it.

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 8:34:48 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
10:05
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I'm into Adventure bikes as you know, Honda is coming out with the ADV X model scooter and is something I'd consider if they bring it to the US market.
I'm at that age also where throwing my leg over a tall ADV bike ends with me kicking at it half the time these days.
....

I can apreciate that. That's one advantage of having a Guzzi jackal. They're low slung so mount and dismount is a breeze. The trade off is that at being almost 6'4" tall you're sitting with your knees wrapped around your ears and riding hard on your butt bone. I find that he'll seats or cushions can be your best friend at times...

A few years ago on a whim I bought a pristine ex Wa state patrol bike, an 04 R1150RT-P.
I really liked that thing on the hwy, but riding around town with 17" wheels was a real bear.
One day I decidied I'd had enough and called my buddy (He always wanted one) and told him to come over I've got something for you. When he arrived I handed him the keys and said she's all yours. He's 6'6" with a 40" inseam and when he rode away I about doubled over laughing, He looked like a big kid on a minibike. The adjustments he had to do that bike were insane, Taller seat, lowered pegs, bar-backs. etc...

On 11/23/16 12:11 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:00:25 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I learned my lesson riding a Honda in the snow. I am wondering, though,
how my 4WD Toyota Tacoma will do in the snow. It has
all-terrain/all-season tires, I think, plus a manual transmission, but,
of course, it suffers from the typical pickup truck ailment of not a lot
of weight on the rear tires. I only got the 4WD model because a number
of on-line reports indicated it did well in the snow. We'll see.

The thing you have to remember about 4wd is if you lose the back end,
the front is probably going with it. I hockey pucked my Jeep a few
times on the beltway before I figured out that I should leave it in 2
wheel until I needed it.


I usually don't wander out until one of the neighbors at the entrance to
our little subdivision emails everyone that the state road there has
been hit at least once by the plow. At that point, I decide whether to
pay the $100 or so to have our driveway plowed. If the truck does as I
hope, I might avoid a few "plow jobs."

The Beltway is a great place to avoid during snowstorms.

11:15
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A few years ago on a whim I bought a pristine ex Wa state patrol bike, an 04 R1150RT-P.
I really liked that thing on the hwy, but riding around town with 17" wheels was a real bear.
One day I decidied I'd had enough and called my buddy (He always wanted one) and told him to come over I've got something for you. When he arrived I handed him the keys and said she's all yours. He's 6'6" with a 40" inseam and when he rode away I about doubled over laughing, He looked like a big kid on a minibike. The adjustments he had to do that bike were insane, Taller seat, lowered pegs, bar-backs. etc...
......

Yessir, I can sympathize with that situation.

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 9:08:09 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 07:40:33 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 19:09:13 -0500, wrote:


I am not talking about intentionally laying it down but that can just
happen if you get to aggressive with the brakes, particularly in the
woods.

Agreed! The woods is different! There are trees there than *will* just jump right out in front of
you. And hitting the brakes while on loose gravel or wet leaves is a good way to test your 'quick
dismount' skills.

OTOH
If you are going to hit something, having tires and springs out in
front is better than counting on your face shield to save you. ;-)

The closest I ever when to going down on the road was on the E street
expressway (under the Kennedy center). It was a little wet. I hit
those vinyl lane markers in the road and it was like ice. They had so
many markings on the road I thought I was never going to find asphalt
again. The guys behind me said they thought I was down about 3 times
but I managed to get it upright and going again with nothing but a
little peg scraping and a boost in my heart rate.

No kidding, Around here its those Turtle reflectors or where they grind the centerlines out. Turtles I can usually avoid when switching lanes.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 12:18:22 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

The Beltway is a great place to avoid during snowstorms.

Hard to do if you live in Clinton and work in Rockville.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 12:08:00 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 07:40:33 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 19:09:13 -0500, wrote:


I am not talking about intentionally laying it down but that can just
happen if you get to aggressive with the brakes, particularly in the
woods.

Agreed! The woods is different! There are trees there than *will* just jump right out in front of
you. And hitting the brakes while on loose gravel or wet leaves is a good way to test your 'quick
dismount' skills.

OTOH
If you are going to hit something, having tires and springs out in
front is better than counting on your face shield to save you. ;-)

The closest I ever when to going down on the road was on the E street
expressway (under the Kennedy center). It was a little wet. I hit
those vinyl lane markers in the road and it was like ice. They had so
many markings on the road I thought I was never going to find asphalt
again. The guys behind me said they thought I was down about 3 times
but I managed to get it upright and going again with nothing but a
little peg scraping and a boost in my heart rate.

I hate those damn vinyl markers. When wet they're like lithium grease.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 12:18:22 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 11/23/16 12:11 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:00:25 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I learned my lesson riding a Honda in the snow. I am wondering, though,
how my 4WD Toyota Tacoma will do in the snow. It has
all-terrain/all-season tires, I think, plus a manual transmission, but,
of course, it suffers from the typical pickup truck ailment of not a lot
of weight on the rear tires. I only got the 4WD model because a number
of on-line reports indicated it did well in the snow. We'll see.

The thing you have to remember about 4wd is if you lose the back end,
the front is probably going with it. I hockey pucked my Jeep a few
times on the beltway before I figured out that I should leave it in 2
wheel until I needed it.


I usually don't wander out until one of the neighbors at the entrance to
our little subdivision emails everyone that the state road there has
been hit at least once by the plow. At that point, I decide whether to
pay the $100 or so to have our driveway plowed. If the truck does as I
hope, I might avoid a few "plow jobs."

The Beltway is a great place to avoid during snowstorms.

Are you talking about the guy that owns the Maryland Red barn?

:)

Keyser Soze
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"I usually don't wander out until one of the neighbors at the entrance to
our little subdivision emails everyone that the state road there has
been hit at least once by the plow. At that point, I decide whether to
pay the $100 or so to have our driveway plowed. If the truck does as I
hope, I might avoid a few "plow jobs."

The Beltway is a great place to avoid during snowstorms."


The Highlander does just fine with it's full time 4 wheel drive on all season tires. I do stay home until the plow has been around but would probably take it out to play if I had real winter tires. In Quebec, it's the law that you must have winter tires and now all the tire manufacturers and dealers are doing their best to convince us to do the same. I haven't bought winter tires in about 35 years....since I switched to front wheel drive vehicles. (and now..4 wheel drive)
Just had 4 new Michelin premium LTX tires installed to replace the original equipment Toyota Open Country tires.