On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 15:12:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 7/7/2016 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 11:42:32 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

But Hillary is being pilloried by the GOP for using a private server?

No Hillary's qualifications are being questioned because she was
"sloppy", "negligent" and "Very careless" with top secret materials
that "any reasonable person would know were secret at the time".
Some were even marked that way according to Comey.
There is also the question about her lying under oath about it.
It is also interesting that Comey said he will not release the details
of these recovered E-mails until after the election so we do not know
what else may have been discussed.
Bear in mind, the details of Watergate were not released until after
the election too. I remember how that worked out.
I think she is the most likely president to be impeached since her
husband.



It also appears that she has lied (again) to the public and in
congressional hearings while under oath.

I feel for Harry. It must be tough to mindlessly support his party's
choice in their candidate when it is obvious to the most oblivious
observer that her reputation for lying and deceitfulness is so well
deserved (and confirmed).

This isn't about Trump. It's about Hillary.

It is really about both of them. Maybe we should have a do over on the
candidate selections. The GOP knows Trump is a losing proposition and
Hillary is not much better.
It really means the parties will need to get out the vote for their
down ticket because there is not much reason to get excited by the
presidential candidates from either party. This could really be a
"stay at home" election.

On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 3:44:09 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 15:12:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 7/7/2016 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 11:42:32 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

But Hillary is being pilloried by the GOP for using a private server?

No Hillary's qualifications are being questioned because she was
"sloppy", "negligent" and "Very careless" with top secret materials
that "any reasonable person would know were secret at the time".
Some were even marked that way according to Comey.
There is also the question about her lying under oath about it.
It is also interesting that Comey said he will not release the details
of these recovered E-mails until after the election so we do not know
what else may have been discussed.
Bear in mind, the details of Watergate were not released until after
the election too. I remember how that worked out.
I think she is the most likely president to be impeached since her
husband.



It also appears that she has lied (again) to the public and in
congressional hearings while under oath.

I feel for Harry. It must be tough to mindlessly support his party's
choice in their candidate when it is obvious to the most oblivious
observer that her reputation for lying and deceitfulness is so well
deserved (and confirmed).

This isn't about Trump. It's about Hillary.

It is really about both of them. Maybe we should have a do over on the
candidate selections. The GOP knows Trump is a losing proposition and
Hillary is not much better.
It really means the parties will need to get out the vote for their
down ticket because there is not much reason to get excited by the
presidential candidates from either party. This could really be a
"stay at home" election.

That's funny, I was thinking the same thing earlier. Most voters this election will probably be going to the polls to vote *against* a candidate, not for one.

On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 12:57:01 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

It is really about both of them. Maybe we should have a do over on the
candidate selections. The GOP knows Trump is a losing proposition and
Hillary is not much better.
It really means the parties will need to get out the vote for their
down ticket because there is not much reason to get excited by the
presidential candidates from either party. This could really be a
"stay at home" election.

That's funny, I was thinking the same thing earlier. Most voters this election will probably be going to the polls to vote *against* a candidate, not for one.

That is the perfect storm of low voter turn out, particularly when
both candidates have more than half the country not trusting them.

Presidential elections always come down to the same 8 states and those
are the ones we need to watch. I know there are Hillary ads showing up
here every 10 minutes right now, trying to rehabilitate her image but
they are largely bull****. From the ad, you would think she did
volunteer work "for the children" all of her life. They don't mention
her time as a corporate lawyer or her time on the board of walmart,
only the few months she spent after college, while looking for a real
job.

On 7/7/16 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 12:57:01 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

It is really about both of them. Maybe we should have a do over on the
candidate selections. The GOP knows Trump is a losing proposition and
Hillary is not much better.
It really means the parties will need to get out the vote for their
down ticket because there is not much reason to get excited by the
presidential candidates from either party. This could really be a
"stay at home" election.

That's funny, I was thinking the same thing earlier. Most voters this election will probably be going to the polls to vote *against* a candidate, not for one.

That is the perfect storm of low voter turn out, particularly when
both candidates have more than half the country not trusting them.

Presidential elections always come down to the same 8 states and those
are the ones we need to watch. I know there are Hillary ads showing up
here every 10 minutes right now, trying to rehabilitate her image but
they are largely bull****. From the ad, you would think she did
volunteer work "for the children" all of her life. They don't mention
her time as a corporate lawyer or her time on the board of walmart,
only the few months she spent after college, while looking for a real
job.



Considering how many groups Trump seems willing to insult and **** on, I
suspect the turnout for the Dems will be pretty decent, if not
record-setting. The Dems smell a chance to retake the Senate, have a
real shot at the House, and don't want the Repubs to name three or four
Supremes.

I don't know what will motivate the Repubs other than their hatred of
Hillary.

On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 16:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 7/7/16 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 12:57:01 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

It is really about both of them. Maybe we should have a do over on the
candidate selections. The GOP knows Trump is a losing proposition and
Hillary is not much better.
It really means the parties will need to get out the vote for their
down ticket because there is not much reason to get excited by the
presidential candidates from either party. This could really be a
"stay at home" election.

That's funny, I was thinking the same thing earlier. Most voters this election will probably be going to the polls to vote *against* a candidate, not for one.

That is the perfect storm of low voter turn out, particularly when
both candidates have more than half the country not trusting them.

Presidential elections always come down to the same 8 states and those
are the ones we need to watch. I know there are Hillary ads showing up
here every 10 minutes right now, trying to rehabilitate her image but
they are largely bull****. From the ad, you would think she did
volunteer work "for the children" all of her life. They don't mention
her time as a corporate lawyer or her time on the board of walmart,
only the few months she spent after college, while looking for a real
job.



Considering how many groups Trump seems willing to insult and **** on, I
suspect the turnout for the Dems will be pretty decent, if not
record-setting. The Dems smell a chance to retake the Senate, have a
real shot at the House, and don't want the Repubs to name three or four
Supremes.

I don't know what will motivate the Repubs other than their hatred of
Hillary.

You just confirmed what I said. Democrats will come out against Trump
and Republicans will come out against Hillary. The open question is
who they would actually vote for because there is a significant
overlap (15% or so) in those who don't like either one of them.
Since this is based on telephone polls the negatives might even be
worse because frustrated people are more likely to hang up on a
pollster.