On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:54:52 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/10/16 2:18 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:44:03 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:07:47 -0500, wrote:

I suppose you have never really looked at the .22s they use in the
rapid fire events. Most actually have a big weight on the end of the
barrel. Muzzle flip may not mean much shooting water bottles in slow
fire but when 5 shots in 4 seconds is necessary to be competitive at
all, a little flip is the difference between playing the game or going
home.

===

With the guys I shoot with 5 shots in 3 seconds or less is par for the
course if you want to do well. That includes the time needed to drop
your hands from shoulder high, pick the gun up from the bench (or draw
from a holster), and get on target. My best ever is 2.6 seconds.

Multiple targets?



None of the women I've been with in my lifetime would be impressed by a
guy who could shoot his load in three seconds or less, but it makes
sense for W'hine, most women would say.

I didn't realize that was what we were talking about but it does
explain why you are so bothered by long barrels, ;-)

On 3/10/2016 7:57 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Well, they are more experienced based than yours on the subject of
popular small arms. As for your socially promoted buddy, Fla Jim, I
can't recall one post of his, when I actually read them, that had useful
information or data.

I can't help it if you can't comprehend useful boating information.

As far as your experience with small arms, you should write a book about
all the stupid things you've done with guns.

On 3/10/2016 8:05 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 18:52:03 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/9/2016 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 16:24:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/9/16 3:14 PM, John H. wrote:

I was in the Fire Direction Control center for an artillery battery. One of our last
demos for the brass before the 196th Light Infantry Brigade deployed was a
time-on-target air burst of the entire battalion's guns - 18 105's. The calculations
were extensive and had to be done by hand then - no computers (1966). I didn't get to
see the results, but my lieutenant said it was spectacular. Eighteen rounds going off
within a few seconds of each other from about 10 to 50 yards above the target. The
batteries (3) shot from different locations also. I would like to have seen it. Saw a
demo at Ft. Sill before graduating there - hell of a sight, and that was an 8-inch
battery.
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Boys and their toys...

The boys and their toys have ensured you don't speak Chinese or Russian, Krause.


Weren't you
Fighting the Vietnamese...and lost?


This all boils down to you having a sore ass because Herring refused to
go out in your boat with you.

Can you just imagine being withing 25' of that for several hours?
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Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

Perish the thought.

On 3/10/2016 8:16 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:57:42 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/10/16 7:46 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 18:48:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/9/2016 5:25 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:04:04 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 3:07:30 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:23:12 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:40:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:28:48 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:43:33 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 5:06:05 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote:
On 3/8/2016 2:54 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 3:13:15 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote:
On 3/8/2016 1:21 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 2:16:38 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote:

Quiet counts when shooting zombies.

Exactly. Everyone knows a zombie is attracted to noise.

The Walking Dead is entertaining, but there are considerable gaps in the plot. 3-4 year old gas just seems to happily run. And it took forever for them to start using suppressed AR's. I'm not sure I've ever seen a .22 on the show. A suppressed .22 would be a perfect zombie eliminator.


Yeah, the gas thing usually makes me chuckle. Although, anecdotally,
I have seen gas weed-eaters that were not drained start after about 3
years. They did NOT run happily, though...

Your average .22 doesn't look impressive enough for a post-apocalyptic
TV show... that's probably why we don't see them. If you look online,
though, you can see a lot of manufacturers that make a .22 in an AR-like
configuration. I've been tempted to buy one. Seems like it would be an
insanely fun (and cheap) plinker.

Absolutely. S&W M&P 15/22. Eats anything thrown at it, tons of fun, can be made very quiet if that's your thing.


Ahh.. the key to surviving any apocalypse. A gun that doesn't care
what you feed it. That's what I like about my SR9.

I have a Ruger Mark III with a threaded barrel. Not many rounds through it, but so far it appears to be a good zombie gun as well. The Burris Fastfire 3 on it is sweet!

I keep telling myself I don't need a Ruger Mark III. I think I'm losing. Seems like
'the Hunter' would be a great zombie gun.
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Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

I didn't technically get a Mark III. I actually got this one with the two picatinny rails.

http://www.ruger.com/products/2245ThreadedBarrel/models.html

I was going to ask how you mounted the Burris fastfire on the mark III.

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I have a Mark III Hunter with the fluted barrel. When I bought it the
top of the barrel was already drilled, tapped and fitted with filler
screws. All I had to do was back out the fillers and install a small
piece of Weaver rail. I assume that was done at the factory and not
the previous owner.

Just looked at the Ruger site. From the Hunter description:

"Accurate sighting system features fixed or adjustable sights and drilled and tapped
receiver for Weaver®-style scope base adapters for easy mounting of optics (adapters
included, not on fixed sight models)."

http://www.ruger.com/products/markIIIHunter/models.html

Good to know. Thanks.

Now, is the fancy grip worth $70? It is nice looking.
--

Yup. And if you go with a Burris sight, they have dedicated mounts for the Mark III. They do make some really nice looking Mark III's. I already have a more traditional Mark I that I shot when I was a kid with my father. I wanted the unique features the 22/45 had.

Hush, damnit! I need reasons *not* to buy the damn thing!
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Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

Here's one. Harry's already begun to ridicule others for being obsessed
with guns and owning more guns than he currently owns.

And it's for damn sure Harry's opinions are very, very important!
--


Well, they are more experienced based than yours on the subject of
popular small arms. As for your socially promoted buddy, Fla Jim, I
can't recall one post of his, when I actually read them, that had useful
information or data.

Contrary to your narcissistic opinion of yourself, your memory sucks.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

He should write a book. Call it "Idiots guide to firearm neglect and abuse"

On 3/10/2016 9:14 AM, John H. wrote:
Didn't know what the Volquarsten compensator was, so looked it up. Some funny
comments he

You mean like this one?
I have one on mine, but only for weight balance. I was getting too much
kidding for the wheel weights I had duc taped to my barrel :-)

Chip

On 3/10/2016 2:54 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

None of the women I've been with in my lifetime were impressed by a
guy who could shoot his load in three seconds.

We don't need to know that.

On 3/10/2016 6:15 PM, Tom Nofinger wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 1:54:54 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/10/16 2:18 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:44:03 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:07:47 -0500, wrote:

I suppose you have never really looked at the .22s they use in the
rapid fire events. Most actually have a big weight on the end of the
barrel. Muzzle flip may not mean much shooting water bottles in slow
fire but when 5 shots in 4 seconds is necessary to be competitive at
all, a little flip is the difference between playing the game or going
home.

===

With the guys I shoot with 5 shots in 3 seconds or less is par for the
course if you want to do well. That includes the time needed to drop
your hands from shoulder high, pick the gun up from the bench (or draw
from a holster), and get on target. My best ever is 2.6 seconds.

Multiple targets?



None of the women I've been with in my lifetime would be impressed by a
guy who could shoot his load in three seconds or less, but it makes
sense for W'hine, most women would say.


None of the women you say? Then how about the guys you've been with?

Have you been reading about his Shenandoah adventures with the boys?

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:15:06 AM UTC-5, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 3/10/2016 2:54 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

None of the women I've been with in my lifetime were impressed by a
guy who could shoot his load in three seconds.

We don't need to know that.

There's only one way Krause would know that.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 7:10:50 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:54:52 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/10/16 2:18 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:44:03 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:07:47 -0500, wrote:

I suppose you have never really looked at the .22s they use in the
rapid fire events. Most actually have a big weight on the end of the
barrel. Muzzle flip may not mean much shooting water bottles in slow
fire but when 5 shots in 4 seconds is necessary to be competitive at
all, a little flip is the difference between playing the game or going
home.

===

With the guys I shoot with 5 shots in 3 seconds or less is par for the
course if you want to do well. That includes the time needed to drop
your hands from shoulder high, pick the gun up from the bench (or draw
from a holster), and get on target. My best ever is 2.6 seconds.

Multiple targets?



None of the women I've been with in my lifetime would be impressed by a
guy who could shoot his load in three seconds or less, but it makes
sense for W'hine, most women would say.

I didn't realize that was what we were talking about but it does
explain why you are so bothered by long barrels, ;-)

That deserves a huge ~snerk~, but I'm trying to be on good behavior.

On 3/8/2016 8:24 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:14:39 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:46:17 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote:

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 6:43:49 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/16 5:06 PM, Ryan P. wrote:
On 3/8/2016 2:54 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 3:13:15 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote:
On 3/8/2016 1:21 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 2:16:38 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote:

Quiet counts when shooting zombies.

Exactly. Everyone knows a zombie is attracted to noise.

The Walking Dead is entertaining, but there are considerable gaps in
the plot. 3-4 year old gas just seems to happily run. And it took
forever for them to start using suppressed AR's. I'm not sure I've
ever seen a .22 on the show. A suppressed .22 would be a perfect
zombie eliminator.


Yeah, the gas thing usually makes me chuckle. Although, anecdotally,
I have seen gas weed-eaters that were not drained start after about 3
years. They did NOT run happily, though...

Your average .22 doesn't look impressive enough for a
post-apocalyptic
TV show... that's probably why we don't see them. If you look online,
though, you can see a lot of manufacturers that make a .22 in an AR-like
configuration. I've been tempted to buy one. Seems like it would be an
insanely fun (and cheap) plinker.

Absolutely. S&W M&P 15/22. Eats anything thrown at it, tons of fun,
can be made very quiet if that's your thing.


Ahh.. the key to surviving any apocalypse. A gun that doesn't care
what you feed it. That's what I like about my SR9.


The M&P 15-22 is a fine, fun rifle. I had one for about two years. A
silencer and subsonic ammo will fire quietly, as far as the ammo goes,
but the reciprocating parts of the rifle are noisy. I sold mine to buy a
bolt action CZ 455... *very quiet* with the silencer attached.

But slow. A zombie will bite you while cycling the bolt. And 5 rounds won't stop a zombie crew.

They made a very capable suppressed 10/22 (pre 1986). You can keep the
lead flying with one of those.
I doubt there are any transferrable select fire M&P 15-22s

They made select fire 10/22s?

The MP 15/22 can keep some lead in the air, and as we all know, semi is more accurate than full-auto. And is less wasteful of ammo in the post-apocalypse. They ain't making more!


There's always the option of reloading the cartridges yourself. I
can't imagine that's particularly fun with .22lr though...

I have a buddy that reloads his wive's .380 cartridges and his .223's.
He made it look pretty simple. But he said it takes practice
to make a consistently reliable round. If you're just learning, you
probably don't want to rely on reloaded rounds in the event of a zombie
hoard attack.