Yo Calif Bill
 

10:49 AMKeyser Söze
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The electricians and plumbers who did our generator install were working
for union contractors. Their prices were lower than those of the
non-union generator contractor up the road.
........
Moonlighters? Lol

Yo Calif Bill
 

On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 11:47:29 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/5/16 10:23 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 10:11:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/5/16 10:08 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/5/16 9:31 AM, Tim wrote:

7:07 AMKeyser Söze
On 3/5/16 7:30 AM, John H. wrote:


As a commander, I often inspected my troops and their equipment.
Usually I saw things
that were overlooked by the NCO's and the troops.


I'll just bet you inspected their "equipment."
----

So, what are you insinuating there, Harry?



Well, the three leading assholes contending for the GOP nomination are
bragging about which one has the biggest dick. As a former commander,
Herring could inspect the fellas and their "equipment" and report back.


Oh, damn...too late:

Christie Verifies Size of Trump's Penis
NEW YORK - New Jersey Governor Chris Christie held a press conference
Friday afternoon to personally vouch for the size of Republican
frontrunner Donald Trump's penis. "I have personally seen it, and let me
assure you, it is substantial," Christie said. The New Jersey Governor
refused to divulge the circumstances under which he ascertained the size
of the billionaire's penis, saying only, "I am proud to be associated
with such a big dick."


From Andy Borowitz, of course.

You feeling mesmerized by penis sizes, Krause?
--

Obviously you missed your party's last ****ing contest, er, debate.

I watched none of it. You were obviously enthralled.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

Yo Calif Bill
 

On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 10:11:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/5/16 10:08 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/5/16 9:31 AM, Tim wrote:

7:07 AMKeyser Söze
On 3/5/16 7:30 AM, John H. wrote:


As a commander, I often inspected my troops and their equipment.
Usually I saw things
that were overlooked by the NCO's and the troops.


I'll just bet you inspected their "equipment."
----

So, what are you insinuating there, Harry?



Well, the three leading assholes contending for the GOP nomination are
bragging about which one has the biggest dick. As a former commander,
Herring could inspect the fellas and their "equipment" and report back.


Oh, damn...too late:

Christie Verifies Size of Trump's Penis
NEW YORK - New Jersey Governor Chris Christie held a press conference
Friday afternoon to personally vouch for the size of Republican
frontrunner Donald Trump's penis. "I have personally seen it, and let me
assure you, it is substantial," Christie said. The New Jersey Governor
refused to divulge the circumstances under which he ascertained the size
of the billionaire's penis, saying only, "I am proud to be associated
with such a big dick."


From Andy Borowitz, of course.

I think he said Trump IS a big dick.
Bill Maher pointed out that they waited until the black guy left
before they started talking about big dicks.

Yo Calif Bill
 

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/4/2016 8:32 PM, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/4/2016 6:27 PM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 5:11:49 PM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/4/2016 3:46 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 15:13:06 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 3/4/2016 2:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 13:51:52 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 3/4/2016 1:33 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/4/16 1:00 PM, Tim wrote:
11:46
On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 02:37:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:
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If you can get the generator for $3500, why would it cost
$6500 to
hook it up? I suspect they were charging you quite a bit more
for the
gen set. It sounds like you already had most of the
infrastructure in
place anyway.
In my case the gas line is roughed in with a valve on a capped
pipe
(when they plumbed in the pool heater) and I would need about
50' of
2ga aluminum SER cable ($80 or so). I doubt I would spend more
than
$300-400 to install it. This thing comes with the transfer
switch. I
thought that was a good price but Harry would not let that
stand.
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Some people think that if it costs way more then it has to be
better.


Some people would prefer to have the job done by properly
trained,
experience, and insured licensed contractors and workers.


In some places it's the only way to get a permit to do it
and it can become a problem if major changes or additions
are made to a property by DIY'ers when it comes time to sell it.


Homeowners can pull permits here. I was the "owner builder" for my
driveway, the addition and the pool.
Of course we are not one of those northern mobbed up union states.
The reality is, Maryland isn't either. I was owner builder for
my 2
additions there too. Both were fairly extensive. The biggest one
included a structural, plumbing, electrical, roofing, grading,
driveway and HVAC permit along with a DOT permit to cross the
right of
way.
I got all of them in one day. Amazing I thought. That was 1977
and I
bet it is harder now.
I hired a mason for the concrete and block/brick but I did
the rest
myself. That has been my policy since. I can do concrete and
block but
I am slower than I want it to go.
I went from this
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/72house.jpg
to this
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg



1977. Almost 40 years ago. Things have changed a bit.


I suppose I could look it up but I bet homeowners can still pull
permits in Maryland. I know they can here.



As far as I know homeowers can pull permits here also but some
projects
require a licensed whatever to actually do or supervise the work.
Depends on what the project is. The average weekend warrior cannot
possibly be current on the ever changing building and electrical
codes.
For example, years ago
I ran some heavy duty speaker wire in some walls in a room in the
basement that we were finishing. Perfectly acceptable then but not
now.
You have to use a special wire designed for that purpose because
it was
discovered that ordinary speaker wire ... even 12 ga ... allowed a
fire
to travel along it like a fuse.



That's one advantage of living where I do. We don't have building
permits. Maybe for commercial property but for residence and farms,
no...


Why is that an advantage?



I'm supposed to get a permit to install/replace a ceiling fan. They
just want to collect your money. How is a ceiling fan replacement going
to be inspected? I guess they might flip the switch to see if it runs.
They also want a permit for a faucet replacement.


Your local codes must be unique. Never heard of anyone having to pull
a permit for a ceiling fan or faucet anywhere. But putting in a whole
house generator, a pool, a major addition ... absolutely.

I'll say one thing though ... I'll do a ceiling fan anyday but when
it comes to plumbing ... no way. Plumbing and I don't get along.
Never did, never will.




A faucet replacement is easier than a ceiling fan - quicker, too.

Yo Calif Bill
 

Yo Calif Bill
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/5/16 8:05 AM, John H. wrote:



Temp is 36. 'Chipped' my ankle bone, whatever that means. Won't be
golfing for a
while. Go to the ortho guy Monday AM. Running around in a splint now.
--

Wow...it is a hopeful sign that both you and your idiot buddy, FlaJim,
are disintegrating before our very eyes, as it were. Maybe you an
"putt" the ankle bone on the other foot.



Dumb...

Yo Calif Bill
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/5/16 9:31 AM, Tim wrote:

7:07 AMKeyser Söze
On 3/5/16 7:30 AM, John H. wrote:


As a commander, I often inspected my troops and their equipment.
Usually I saw things
that were overlooked by the NCO's and the troops.


I'll just bet you inspected their "equipment."
----

So, what are you insinuating there, Harry?



Well, the three leading assholes contending for the GOP nomination are
bragging about which one has the biggest dick. As a former commander,
Herring could inspect the fellas and their "equipment" and report back.

Another lie and an attack. Grow up Krause.

Yo Calif Bill
 

On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:38:19 -0500, Alex wrote:

A faucet replacement is easier than a ceiling fan - quicker, too.

The argument I hear in the inspector community is most older homes do
not have "fan rated" ceiling boxes and most home owners do not know
how to tell the difference. A standard ceiling box is rated for a dead
load of 50 pounds. A fan box is rated for a live load of 70 pounds.
(bigger screws, better attachment to structure and the load is carried
by the back of the box, not "ears" that might flex and fracture)

These days with AFCIs those big kludge ceiling boxes are also not as
forgiving. Ceiling fans got a terrible reputation for tripping AFCIs
and it was a bum rap. The problem turned out to be that big red wire
nut with 3 or 4 white wires in it. When you have a regular breaker and
you ground the neutral, you will never notice. If it is a GFCI or AFCI
it will trip immediately. If there is the slightest amount of
conductor exposed, you have a real good chance of it touching the
hickey, part of the box or a bare ground wire. That will usually be an
intermittent failure, maybe only at one fan speed or just when the
vibration lines up the stars right. I normally do not advise taping up
wire nuts but this may be an exception.