On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

+-

I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an
FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does
nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal.


It is not easy to get an FFL...

Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md.
You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check.



A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and
has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to
be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but
maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida?

This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll)
Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD.

This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now
and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not
sure.

https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download

If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry
says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe
his story though.

On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:54:41 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

+-

I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an
FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does
nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal.


It is not easy to get an FFL...

Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md.
You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check.



A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and
has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to
be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but
maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida?

This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll)
Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD.

This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now
and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not
sure.

https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download

If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry
says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe
his story though.


I simply cannot imagine not believing something said by Mr. Krause!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:54:41 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

+-

I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an
FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does
nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal.


It is not easy to get an FFL...

Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md.
You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check.



A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and
has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to
be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but
maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida?

This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll)
Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD.

This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now
and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not
sure.

https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download

If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry
says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe
his story though.

Harry is confusing "easy" with "fast".
There is not much that gets turned around "fast" by the federal
government, no matter how "easy" it is.
If they do turn it around fast, it simply means that they are not
really doing anything substantive and they are going to be wrong a
lot.
You only have to look at tax refunds and medicare payments to see
that. The politicians have forced these things to be done fast but
they end up with fraud rates well over 15% because they do nothing but
write the check.
AKA "pay and chase"

On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

+-

I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an
FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does
nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal.


It is not easy to get an FFL...

Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md.
You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check.



A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and
has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to
be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but
maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida?

This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll)
Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD.

This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now
and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not
sure.

https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download

If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry
says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe
his story though.

It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible...

On 1/3/16 5:57 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

+-

I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an
FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does
nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal.


It is not easy to get an FFL...

Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md.
You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check.



A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and
has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to
be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but
maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida?

This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll)
Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD.

This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now
and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not
sure.

https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download

If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry
says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe
his story though.

It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible...


As I have stated here many times, my lawyer asked if I wanted a conceal
carry permit. I signed my name on the forms where told and that was
extent of my involvement in the process. It didn't cost anything more
than the state's processing/permit fee.

Maybe it was easily done because my lawyer's undergraduate degree was in
one of those danged liberal arts.

On 1/3/2016 6:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/3/16 5:57 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

+-

I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people
having an
FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still
does
nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal.


It is not easy to get an FFL...

Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md.
You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check.



A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store
and
has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun
FFL to
be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think,
but
maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida?

This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll)
Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD.

This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now
and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not
sure.

https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download

If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry
says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe
his story though.

It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible...


As I have stated here many times, my lawyer asked if I wanted a conceal
carry permit. I signed my name on the forms where told and that was
extent of my involvement in the process. It didn't cost anything more
than the state's processing/permit fee.

Maybe it was easily done because my lawyer's undergraduate degree was in
one of those danged liberal arts.




Doubtful. If that were so he would have talked you out of a concealed
carry permit and charged you $500.

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/3/2016 6:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/3/16 5:57 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

+-

I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people
having an
FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still
does
nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal.


It is not easy to get an FFL...

Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md.
You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check.



A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store
and
has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun
FFL to
be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think,
but
maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida?

This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll)
Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD.

This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now
and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not
sure.

https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download

If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry
says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe
his story though.

It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible...


As I have stated here many times, my lawyer asked if I wanted a conceal
carry permit. I signed my name on the forms where told and that was
extent of my involvement in the process. It didn't cost anything more
than the state's processing/permit fee.

Maybe it was easily done because my lawyer's undergraduate degree was in
one of those danged liberal arts.




Doubtful. If that were so he would have talked you out of a concealed
carry permit and charged you $500.




Now, that is funny!

On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 18:29:25 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/3/2016 6:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/3/16 5:57 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

+-

I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people
having an
FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still
does
nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal.


It is not easy to get an FFL...

Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md.
You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check.



A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store
and
has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun
FFL to
be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think,
but
maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida?

This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll)
Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD.

This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now
and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not
sure.

https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download

If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry
says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe
his story though.

It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible...


As I have stated here many times, my lawyer asked if I wanted a conceal
carry permit. I signed my name on the forms where told and that was
extent of my involvement in the process. It didn't cost anything more
than the state's processing/permit fee.

Maybe it was easily done because my lawyer's undergraduate degree was in
one of those danged liberal arts.




Doubtful. If that were so he would have talked you out of a concealed
carry permit and charged you $500.


I am surprised Harry didn't notice being photographed and
fingerprinted.

On 1/3/16 9:35 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 18:29:25 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/3/2016 6:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/3/16 5:57 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

+-

I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people
having an
FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still
does
nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal.


It is not easy to get an FFL...

Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md.
You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check.



A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store
and
has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun
FFL to
be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think,
but
maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida?

This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll)
Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD.

This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now
and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not
sure.

https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download

If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry
says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe
his story though.

It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible...


As I have stated here many times, my lawyer asked if I wanted a conceal
carry permit. I signed my name on the forms where told and that was
extent of my involvement in the process. It didn't cost anything more
than the state's processing/permit fee.

Maybe it was easily done because my lawyer's undergraduate degree was in
one of those danged liberal arts.




Doubtful. If that were so he would have talked you out of a concealed
carry permit and charged you $500.


I am surprised Harry didn't notice being photographed and
fingerprinted.


Oh, well, I thought we were discussing the paperwork. Back then, the
prints were done the old fashioned way, with ink. No more.

On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 5:09:40 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:

If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry
says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe
his story though.

It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible...


As I have stated here many times, my lawyer asked if I wanted a conceal
carry permit. I signed my name on the forms where told and that was
extent of my involvement in the process. It didn't cost anything more
than the state's processing/permit fee.

Maybe it was easily done because my lawyer's undergraduate degree was in
one of those danged liberal arts.

Like I said...