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[email protected] December 20th 15 11:27 PM

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:11:59 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:59:25 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 12/20/2015 2:45 PM, John H. wrote:

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:11:23 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:





My wife still has the iMac I bought her. She wanted one with the big,
25" display, so I gave it to her the same year she bought mine. It
now sits, mostly unused, because she uses a dinky, little iPhone for
just about everything she does. She also has an iPad and is constantly
watching movies on it from someplace. I don't even know how she gets
them. I still have an iPad as well but don't use it. The only time it's
used is when one of my granddaughters visits and wants to play "Peggle".



Can't you just say, "Siri, get a movie!"?


I guess not on an iPad. I assume she is using Netflicks or something
but I really don't know. I am not big into watching movies although
once in a while the Turner Classic Movies channel (TMC) will have a
great, old movie that I'll watch. Watched "The Dirty Dozen" again
yesterday.


I don't know where I picked up this trick, 'cause I sure don't have a smart phone.
When the kids were here for Christmas, I'd divided leftover turkey into two bags.
Then I asked the daughters if they had a coin. No. Could I use a phone to ask Siri a
question. Yes.

So I asked one daughter to call heads or tails. She called heads. I told Siri, "Siri,
flip a coin."

The next sound is Siri saying, "Tails."

Neither of them knew of that. Couldn't believe I got 'em on something.


Gee whiz ... 3mz dual core processor with 4 gig of ram and it can give
you a random bit How cool. ;-)

[email protected] December 20th 15 11:31 PM

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:55:49 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.


===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.



Never touched that virus ;-)

You can keep your stuff in a directory I-tunes doesn't know about tho.
I did that with my FIL and every once in a while I have to go restore
his library.

[email protected] December 20th 15 11:32 PM

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:13:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 4:55 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.



You are right. I had forgotten that. I deleted iTunes from this and my
previous Vista computer because I got tired of doing everything to do
with music files the "Apple" way. Much better saving the files where I
want them, not where Apple thinks they should be.


You can put the music files wherever you want. Mine reside on my server, a
non-apple product, and are accessible via all our devices, via hardwire, wi
fi or via data sources off the premises.


AKA avoiding Apple when you can

[email protected] December 20th 15 11:33 PM

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:43:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/20/15 5:17 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:55:49 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.


I spent a lot of time trying to undo all that on mine. Never did get it all undone.
The money I have left in the i-tunes account will be there forever.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Improperly removing a complex software package often leaves vestiges in
directories you don't even know exist. Windows is well-known for this,
even when you use the remove software facility.


That is when you need to understand REGEDIT.

It is cleaning the latrine with a toothbrush but it works.

Keyser Söze December 20th 15 11:38 PM

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:43:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/20/15 5:17 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:55:49 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.

I spent a lot of time trying to undo all that on mine. Never did get it all undone.
The money I have left in the i-tunes account will be there forever.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Improperly removing a complex software package often leaves vestiges in
directories you don't even know exist. Windows is well-known for this,
even when you use the remove software facility.


That is when you need to understand REGEDIT.

It is cleaning the latrine with a toothbrush but it works.

It can also overdo the cleaning and require a reinstall on windoze


--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Mr. Luddite December 20th 15 11:42 PM

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 
On 12/20/2015 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:13:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 4:55 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.



You are right. I had forgotten that. I deleted iTunes from this and my
previous Vista computer because I got tired of doing everything to do
with music files the "Apple" way. Much better saving the files where I
want them, not where Apple thinks they should be.


You can put the music files wherever you want. Mine reside on my server, a
non-apple product, and are accessible via all our devices, via hardwire, wi
fi or via data sources off the premises.


AKA avoiding Apple when you can


That was my conclusion. I tried using iTunes for my music files but
found it to be convoluted and way too complex to use. I stored the
music in folders I created and organized instead. I kept iTunes on all
the computers (the Vista laptop and this Win 7) while I had the iMac
and was trying to get used to it. When I got rid of the iMac I also got
rid of iTunes.

I remember once that iTunes automatically started changing mp3
extensions to mp4 which ****ed me off. The older Vista computer
couldn't read mp4 so, in order to send a file via the wifi network from
the iMac to the Vista, I had to manually change the extension back to
mp3. Don't know why Apple decided to make that change. It started
after one of the many iTunes "updates".

Keyser Söze December 20th 15 11:55 PM

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:13:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 4:55 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.



You are right. I had forgotten that. I deleted iTunes from this and my
previous Vista computer because I got tired of doing everything to do
with music files the "Apple" way. Much better saving the files where I
want them, not where Apple thinks they should be.


You can put the music files wherever you want. Mine reside on my server, a
non-apple product, and are accessible via all our devices, via hardwire, wi
fi or via data sources off the premises.


AKA avoiding Apple when you can


That was my conclusion. I tried using iTunes for my music files but
found it to be convoluted and way too complex to use. I stored the
music in folders I created and organized instead. I kept iTunes on all
the computers (the Vista laptop and this Win 7) while I had the iMac
and was trying to get used to it. When I got rid of the iMac I also got
rid of iTunes.

I remember once that iTunes automatically started changing mp3
extensions to mp4 which ****ed me off. The older Vista computer
couldn't read mp4 so, in order to send a file via the wifi network from
the iMac to the Vista, I had to manually change the extension back to
mp3. Don't know why Apple decided to make that change. It started
after one of the many iTunes "updates".


Yeah, it was really difficult. I set up a directory on my sever and pointed
itunes at it. Whew! 😅 guess some would find that . . . Tough.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Mr. Luddite December 21st 15 12:16 AM

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 
On 12/20/2015 6:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:13:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 4:55 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.



You are right. I had forgotten that. I deleted iTunes from this and my
previous Vista computer because I got tired of doing everything to do
with music files the "Apple" way. Much better saving the files where I
want them, not where Apple thinks they should be.


You can put the music files wherever you want. Mine reside on my server, a
non-apple product, and are accessible via all our devices, via hardwire, wi
fi or via data sources off the premises.

AKA avoiding Apple when you can


That was my conclusion. I tried using iTunes for my music files but
found it to be convoluted and way too complex to use. I stored the
music in folders I created and organized instead. I kept iTunes on all
the computers (the Vista laptop and this Win 7) while I had the iMac
and was trying to get used to it. When I got rid of the iMac I also got
rid of iTunes.

I remember once that iTunes automatically started changing mp3
extensions to mp4 which ****ed me off. The older Vista computer
couldn't read mp4 so, in order to send a file via the wifi network from
the iMac to the Vista, I had to manually change the extension back to
mp3. Don't know why Apple decided to make that change. It started
after one of the many iTunes "updates".


Yeah, it was really difficult. I set up a directory on my sever and pointed
itunes at it. Whew! 😅 guess some would find that . . . Tough.


I didn't say it was "tough". I said it ****ed me off because I didn't
want them stored as mp4 files. I saved them as mp3 but iTunes decided
they should be mp4. There was no notice of the change whenever they
decided to start doing this. I discovered by accident that right
clicking on the file allowed me to transfer it via the network as a mp3
rather than an mp4. Another one of those "intuitive" Apple things that
you should just *know*, I guess.



Keyser Söze December 21st 15 12:24 AM

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:13:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 4:55 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.



You are right. I had forgotten that. I deleted iTunes from this and my
previous Vista computer because I got tired of doing everything to do
with music files the "Apple" way. Much better saving the files where I
want them, not where Apple thinks they should be.


You can put the music files wherever you want. Mine reside on my server, a
non-apple product, and are accessible via all our devices, via hardwire, wi
fi or via data sources off the premises.

AKA avoiding Apple when you can


That was my conclusion. I tried using iTunes for my music files but
found it to be convoluted and way too complex to use. I stored the
music in folders I created and organized instead. I kept iTunes on all
the computers (the Vista laptop and this Win 7) while I had the iMac
and was trying to get used to it. When I got rid of the iMac I also got
rid of iTunes.

I remember once that iTunes automatically started changing mp3
extensions to mp4 which ****ed me off. The older Vista computer
couldn't read mp4 so, in order to send a file via the wifi network from
the iMac to the Vista, I had to manually change the extension back to
mp3. Don't know why Apple decided to make that change. It started
after one of the many iTunes "updates".


Yeah, it was really difficult. I set up a directory on my sever and pointed
itunes at it. Whew! 😅 guess some would find that . . . Tough.


I didn't say it was "tough". I said it ****ed me off because I didn't
want them stored as mp4 files. I saved them as mp3 but iTunes decided
they should be mp4. There was no notice of the change whenever they
decided to start doing this. I discovered by accident that right
clicking on the file allowed me to transfer it via the network as a mp3
rather than an mp4. Another one of those "intuitive" Apple things that
you should just *know*, I guess.



I make oldies mp3s CDS from iTunes for a buddy. Easy.


--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Keyser Söze December 21st 15 12:38 AM

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 
On 12/20/15 7:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:13:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 4:55 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That
was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to
think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to
all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music
directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.



You are right. I had forgotten that. I deleted iTunes from this
and my
previous Vista computer because I got tired of doing everything to do
with music files the "Apple" way. Much better saving the files
where I
want them, not where Apple thinks they should be.


You can put the music files wherever you want. Mine reside on my
server, a
non-apple product, and are accessible via all our devices, via
hardwire, wi
fi or via data sources off the premises.

AKA avoiding Apple when you can


That was my conclusion. I tried using iTunes for my music files but
found it to be convoluted and way too complex to use. I stored the
music in folders I created and organized instead. I kept iTunes on all
the computers (the Vista laptop and this Win 7) while I had the iMac
and was trying to get used to it. When I got rid of the iMac I also got
rid of iTunes.

I remember once that iTunes automatically started changing mp3
extensions to mp4 which ****ed me off. The older Vista computer
couldn't read mp4 so, in order to send a file via the wifi network from
the iMac to the Vista, I had to manually change the extension back to
mp3. Don't know why Apple decided to make that change. It started
after one of the many iTunes "updates".


Yeah, it was really difficult. I set up a directory on my sever and
pointed
itunes at it. Whew! 😅 guess some would find that . . . Tough.


I didn't say it was "tough". I said it ****ed me off because I didn't
want them stored as mp4 files. I saved them as mp3 but iTunes decided
they should be mp4. There was no notice of the change whenever they
decided to start doing this. I discovered by accident that right
clicking on the file allowed me to transfer it via the network as a mp3
rather than an mp4. Another one of those "intuitive" Apple things that
you should just *know*, I guess.



It's well-hidden in the help files:

Choose import options
Choose iTunes Preferences, click General, and click Import Settings.

Choose an encoding format from the Import Using pop-up menu.

AAC Encoder: Use for most music. You can listen to songs encoded using
this format in iTunes, on iPhone and iPad, and on iPod models that come
with a dock connector.

AIFF Encoder: Use if you want to burn high-quality CDs with the songs
you’re importing without losing audio quality.

Apple Lossless Encoder: Use if you want to listen to imported songs on
audiophile-quality sound systems without losing audio quality. (Songs
imported using this format take up much more disk space.)

MP3 Encoder: Use if you plan to listen to music in apps other than
iTunes, or on MP3 players other than iPod, iPhone, or iPad.

WAV Encoder: Use if you’ll be playing your songs on a computer that
doesn’t have MP3 software.

Choose a bit rate from the Setting pop-up menu (not available with Apple
Lossless Encoder). In most cases, the default selection works well. If
you chose MP3 Encoder, you can choose one of the following:

Good Quality: Choose to fit more songs on a portable MP3 player with
limited storage capacity.

High Quality: Choose if you play music in a noisy environment. This
setting creates files that are about 1 MB in size per minute of music.

Higher Quality: Choose if you plan to create your own audio CDs or
listen to your music with high-quality stereo speakers.

Custom: Choose for greater control over the file size and sound quality.


Of course, you might have to spend 30 seconds calling up the built in
help file.


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