Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote:

You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now.

Nah, gotta be new.

OK, then you can't complain about the price.

True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm
figuring somewhere between$2-3K.

Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power?

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:20:34 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote:

You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now.

Nah, gotta be new.

OK, then you can't complain about the price.

True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm
figuring somewhere between$2-3K.

Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power?

I don't know. He only wants a 13" screen. Here's what he had on his Christmas list
(which ain't gonna happen).

"13 inch Macbook Pro (256GB storage model) w/retina display 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel
i7, turbo boost up to 3.4 GHz, with 16 GB RAM"

He said, when I asked him why he needed so much power, that the software they used in
the biomed arena required it. His dad will check him out though.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote:

You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now.

Nah, gotta be new.

OK, then you can't complain about the price.

True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm
figuring somewhere between$2-3K.

===

You can get a very good Windows laptop or desktop for much less than
that. Here's an example:

http://www.amazon.com/HP-Spectre-x360-13-4102dx-2560x1440/dp/B0114P9QM2

Don't buy any software. He'll be able to get it at *much* cheaper
student rates when he's in college.

It's unlikely that you'll get much of a discount on hardware however.
Amazon will probably have better prices for that.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:20:34 -0500, wrote:

True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm
figuring somewhere between$2-3K.

Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power?

===

If he insists on a Mac that will add a 50 to 100% premium over the
cost of a good Windows machine. It seems to be sort of a cult thing.
I don't know about Apple but Microsoft gives spectacular student
discounts on all of their Windows based software apps.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote:

You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now.

Nah, gotta be new.

OK, then you can't complain about the price.

True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm
figuring somewhere between$2-3K.

"Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power?"



Gaming....that's what my son says to me.......usually followed by how little capability I need for what I do.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:29:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:20:34 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote:

You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now.

Nah, gotta be new.

OK, then you can't complain about the price.

True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm
figuring somewhere between$2-3K.

Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power?

I don't know. He only wants a 13" screen. Here's what he had on his Christmas list
(which ain't gonna happen).

"13 inch Macbook Pro (256GB storage model) w/retina display 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel
i7, turbo boost up to 3.4 GHz, with 16 GB RAM"

He said, when I asked him why he needed so much power, that the software they used in
the biomed arena required it. His dad will check him out though.

Just the fact that it is Apple adds a grand right on top. Can he run a
windows machine?

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:43:14 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote:

You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now.

Nah, gotta be new.

OK, then you can't complain about the price.

True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm
figuring somewhere between$2-3K.

===

You can get a very good Windows laptop or desktop for much less than
that. Here's an example:

http://www.amazon.com/HP-Spectre-x360-13-4102dx-2560x1440/dp/B0114P9QM2

Don't buy any software. He'll be able to get it at *much* cheaper
student rates when he's in college.

It's unlikely that you'll get much of a discount on hardware however.
Amazon will probably have better prices for that.

IBM had a significant education discount but it may be gone now that
Eduquest is gone and it is all Lenovo.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:29:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:20:34 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote:

You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now.

Nah, gotta be new.

OK, then you can't complain about the price.

True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm
figuring somewhere between$2-3K.

Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power?

I don't know. He only wants a 13" screen. Here's what he had on his Christmas list
(which ain't gonna happen).

"13 inch Macbook Pro (256GB storage model) w/retina display 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel
i7, turbo boost up to 3.4 GHz, with 16 GB RAM"

He said, when I asked him why he needed so much power, that the software they used in
the biomed arena required it. His dad will check him out though.

Just the fact that it is Apple adds a grand right on top. Can he run a
windows machine?


Lots of the schools seemed to be locked in to Apple. Sort of like school
sports locked to Nike, etc.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote:

You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now.

Nah, gotta be new.

OK, then you can't complain about the price.

True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm
figuring somewhere between$2-3K.

===

You can get a very good Windows laptop or desktop for much less than
that. Here's an example:

http://www.amazon.com/HP-Spectre-x360-13-4102dx-2560x1440/dp/B0114P9QM2

Don't buy any software. He'll be able to get it at *much* cheaper
student rates when he's in college.

It's unlikely that you'll get much of a discount on hardware however.
Amazon will probably have better prices for that.


Apple has student pricing on hardware and software. Find someone who has a
friend or relative who works for Apple. They can get you family pricing.
I think it was 20% discount.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:21:49 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:


On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote:

You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now.

Nah, gotta be new.

OK, then you can't complain about the price.

True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm
figuring somewhere between$2-3K.

"Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power?"



Gaming....that's what my son says to me.......usually followed by how little capability I need for what I do.

That is true. Game machines are usually 3x what a regular person needs
for just about anything and if you are just "computing" (not doing
video mostly) the needs are very modest. You can do just about
anything you want with audio, using a P1 166. If you are only doing
bookkeeping, word processing and database work, that is still a lot
more machine than you really need.
I will say "Flash" has become very bloated. With Flash 10 you can
watch Netflix and the like with a 2gz P4 and a gig of RAM but if you
load 20, you need at least a 3g P4 or a dual core and 2G of RAM to see
the same content. I have both running side by side and there is no
difference I can see on a 60" TV between Flash 10 and 20.

It sounds like the scam Andy Grove and Bill Gates came up with that
Grove will make faster machines and Gates will puff up the software to
sell them.