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On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 10:21:40 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 12/19/15 10:06 PM, wrote: You can't deny that the machine on your desk will be Wintel if you are in most businesses. So? McDonalds still sells mass quantities of ****ty burgers. That is a false equivalency but you can't deny that there is far more business software written to the Wintel platform than for Apple. At my wife's place, her boss has an apple hard on and he insisted that when they went to a tablet based order system, that they go with I-pads. It turned out that the apps were few and far between and it would not directly interface with their accounting software so they ended up with a kludge that made more work for everyone. These days businesses do far more with computers than Office apps. This is just a small country club in SW Florida and they have a dozen separate computer apps. It is everything from the gate system to scheduling tee times online and running the food business. The people in the office need to understand all of them. |
Interesting gun. I don't have one...
In article ,
says... On 12/19/15 10:06 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:32:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/19/15 8:14 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:52:58 -0500, John H. I think it is because the teacher/professors are not particularly computer literate (Apple is for people who don't want to know they have a computer) but it does put the kids at a disadvantage when they get out in the world and find out most businesses run Windows. I continue to find your comments about Apple computers and their owner/operators laughable, especially since I know a few high-level programmers who work almost exclusively with Apple computers. The "most businesses that run windows" are simply running apps that run under windows, and many of the same apps run under the apple OS. You think that the Microsoft Office Suite, probably the most popular and commonly found "business app" anywhere gives a **** whether it is running under windows or apple OS? \ You can't deny that the machine on your desk will be Wintel if you are in most businesses. So? McDonalds still sells mass quantities of ****ty burgers. Apple's selling point is ease of use. You've said that yourself. I'm something of an "PC expert,' and when asked for my recommendation for a laptop for a college student, I always recommend Apple if the person can afford it. It's just easier to use for the neophyte. But that thinking may be dated now. It's not a disadvantage for future work however, since Apple and Wintel are virtually the same, except for the price. Apple sure gets its brand name out there among newscasters, with the Apple logo often in prominent view on their desks. ****ing effete snobs. |
Interesting gun. I don't have one...
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 11:23:58 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... On 12/19/15 10:06 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:32:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/19/15 8:14 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:52:58 -0500, John H. I think it is because the teacher/professors are not particularly computer literate (Apple is for people who don't want to know they have a computer) but it does put the kids at a disadvantage when they get out in the world and find out most businesses run Windows. I continue to find your comments about Apple computers and their owner/operators laughable, especially since I know a few high-level programmers who work almost exclusively with Apple computers. The "most businesses that run windows" are simply running apps that run under windows, and many of the same apps run under the apple OS. You think that the Microsoft Office Suite, probably the most popular and commonly found "business app" anywhere gives a **** whether it is running under windows or apple OS? \ You can't deny that the machine on your desk will be Wintel if you are in most businesses. So? McDonalds still sells mass quantities of ****ty burgers. Apple's selling point is ease of use. You've said that yourself. I'm something of an "PC expert,' and when asked for my recommendation for a laptop for a college student, I always recommend Apple if the person can afford it. It's just easier to use for the neophyte. But that thinking may be dated now. It's not a disadvantage for future work however, since Apple and Wintel are virtually the same, except for the price. Apple sure gets its brand name out there among newscasters, with the Apple logo often in prominent view on their desks. ****ing effete snobs. Liberal media, all Apple owners, college students? Who are the '****ing effete snobs'? Maybe you should stick to your area of expertise - ISIS. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 12/20/2015 12:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... On 12/19/15 10:06 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:32:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/19/15 8:14 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:52:58 -0500, John H. I think it is because the teacher/professors are not particularly computer literate (Apple is for people who don't want to know they have a computer) but it does put the kids at a disadvantage when they get out in the world and find out most businesses run Windows. I continue to find your comments about Apple computers and their owner/operators laughable, especially since I know a few high-level programmers who work almost exclusively with Apple computers. The "most businesses that run windows" are simply running apps that run under windows, and many of the same apps run under the apple OS. You think that the Microsoft Office Suite, probably the most popular and commonly found "business app" anywhere gives a **** whether it is running under windows or apple OS? \ You can't deny that the machine on your desk will be Wintel if you are in most businesses. So? McDonalds still sells mass quantities of ****ty burgers. Apple's selling point is ease of use. You've said that yourself. I'm something of an "PC expert,' and when asked for my recommendation for a laptop for a college student, I always recommend Apple if the person can afford it. It's just easier to use for the neophyte. But that thinking may be dated now. It's not a disadvantage for future work however, since Apple and Wintel are virtually the same, except for the price. Apple sure gets its brand name out there among newscasters, with the Apple logo often in prominent view on their desks. ****ing effete snobs. I have used Windows based computers for years but am far from being a "PC expert". I just use them, I don't experiment and try to modify or change how they operate other than in the options that the application may allow. When my wife gave me an i-Mac for Christmas a couple of years ago I didn't find it to be "easy" to use at all. In fact, it was a pain in the ass. Apple seems to be much more dictatorial in terms of how you can set up applications (I still call them "programs" or "software") and it seemed very confusing to me in terms of their file structure and how you even used it. I also couldn't stand the stupid excuse for a keyboard that is included with an iMac. I tried for several months to get used to it but found myself going back to a Windows based PC when I wanted to get something done in a hurry. The iMac slowly started being used less and less until I finally sold it to someone who's Mac had just died. My wife still has the iMac I bought her. She wanted one with the big, 25" display, so I gave it to her the same year she bought mine. It now sits, mostly unused, because she uses a dinky, little iPhone for just about everything she does. She also has an iPad and is constantly watching movies on it from someplace. I don't even know how she gets them. I still have an iPad as well but don't use it. The only time it's used is when one of my granddaughters visits and wants to play "Peggle". I'd say that the build quality of Apple's products is probably better than any of the Windows based computers I've had though. I can't complain about Hewlett Packard computers however. Have had good luck with them. |
Interesting gun. I don't have one...
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:11:23 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 12/20/2015 12:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On 12/19/15 10:06 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:32:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/19/15 8:14 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:52:58 -0500, John H. I think it is because the teacher/professors are not particularly computer literate (Apple is for people who don't want to know they have a computer) but it does put the kids at a disadvantage when they get out in the world and find out most businesses run Windows. I continue to find your comments about Apple computers and their owner/operators laughable, especially since I know a few high-level programmers who work almost exclusively with Apple computers. The "most businesses that run windows" are simply running apps that run under windows, and many of the same apps run under the apple OS. You think that the Microsoft Office Suite, probably the most popular and commonly found "business app" anywhere gives a **** whether it is running under windows or apple OS? \ You can't deny that the machine on your desk will be Wintel if you are in most businesses. So? McDonalds still sells mass quantities of ****ty burgers. Apple's selling point is ease of use. You've said that yourself. I'm something of an "PC expert,' and when asked for my recommendation for a laptop for a college student, I always recommend Apple if the person can afford it. It's just easier to use for the neophyte. But that thinking may be dated now. It's not a disadvantage for future work however, since Apple and Wintel are virtually the same, except for the price. Apple sure gets its brand name out there among newscasters, with the Apple logo often in prominent view on their desks. ****ing effete snobs. I have used Windows based computers for years but am far from being a "PC expert". I just use them, I don't experiment and try to modify or change how they operate other than in the options that the application may allow. When my wife gave me an i-Mac for Christmas a couple of years ago I didn't find it to be "easy" to use at all. In fact, it was a pain in the ass. Apple seems to be much more dictatorial in terms of how you can set up applications (I still call them "programs" or "software") and it seemed very confusing to me in terms of their file structure and how you even used it. I also couldn't stand the stupid excuse for a keyboard that is included with an iMac. I tried for several months to get used to it but found myself going back to a Windows based PC when I wanted to get something done in a hurry. The iMac slowly started being used less and less until I finally sold it to someone who's Mac had just died. My wife still has the iMac I bought her. She wanted one with the big, 25" display, so I gave it to her the same year she bought mine. It now sits, mostly unused, because she uses a dinky, little iPhone for just about everything she does. She also has an iPad and is constantly watching movies on it from someplace. I don't even know how she gets them. I still have an iPad as well but don't use it. The only time it's used is when one of my granddaughters visits and wants to play "Peggle". I'd say that the build quality of Apple's products is probably better than any of the Windows based computers I've had though. I can't complain about Hewlett Packard computers however. Have had good luck with them. Can't you just say, "Siri, get a movie!"? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 12/20/2015 2:45 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:11:23 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: My wife still has the iMac I bought her. She wanted one with the big, 25" display, so I gave it to her the same year she bought mine. It now sits, mostly unused, because she uses a dinky, little iPhone for just about everything she does. She also has an iPad and is constantly watching movies on it from someplace. I don't even know how she gets them. I still have an iPad as well but don't use it. The only time it's used is when one of my granddaughters visits and wants to play "Peggle". Can't you just say, "Siri, get a movie!"? I guess not on an iPad. I assume she is using Netflicks or something but I really don't know. I am not big into watching movies although once in a while the Turner Classic Movies channel (TMC) will have a great, old movie that I'll watch. Watched "The Dirty Dozen" again yesterday. |
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On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:59:25 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 12/20/2015 2:45 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:11:23 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: My wife still has the iMac I bought her. She wanted one with the big, 25" display, so I gave it to her the same year she bought mine. It now sits, mostly unused, because she uses a dinky, little iPhone for just about everything she does. She also has an iPad and is constantly watching movies on it from someplace. I don't even know how she gets them. I still have an iPad as well but don't use it. The only time it's used is when one of my granddaughters visits and wants to play "Peggle". Can't you just say, "Siri, get a movie!"? I guess not on an iPad. I assume she is using Netflicks or something but I really don't know. I am not big into watching movies although once in a while the Turner Classic Movies channel (TMC) will have a great, old movie that I'll watch. Watched "The Dirty Dozen" again yesterday. I don't know where I picked up this trick, 'cause I sure don't have a smart phone. When the kids were here for Christmas, I'd divided leftover turkey into two bags. Then I asked the daughters if they had a coin. No. Could I use a phone to ask Siri a question. Yes. So I asked one daughter to call heads or tails. She called heads. I told Siri, "Siri, flip a coin." The next sound is Siri saying, "Tails." Neither of them knew of that. Couldn't believe I got 'em on something. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
Interesting gun. I don't have one...
In article QLadnbvM1aXBYOvLnZ2dnUU7-
, says... On 12/20/2015 12:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On 12/19/15 10:06 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:32:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/19/15 8:14 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:52:58 -0500, John H. I think it is because the teacher/professors are not particularly computer literate (Apple is for people who don't want to know they have a computer) but it does put the kids at a disadvantage when they get out in the world and find out most businesses run Windows. I continue to find your comments about Apple computers and their owner/operators laughable, especially since I know a few high-level programmers who work almost exclusively with Apple computers. The "most businesses that run windows" are simply running apps that run under windows, and many of the same apps run under the apple OS. You think that the Microsoft Office Suite, probably the most popular and commonly found "business app" anywhere gives a **** whether it is running under windows or apple OS? \ You can't deny that the machine on your desk will be Wintel if you are in most businesses. So? McDonalds still sells mass quantities of ****ty burgers. Apple's selling point is ease of use. You've said that yourself. I'm something of an "PC expert,' and when asked for my recommendation for a laptop for a college student, I always recommend Apple if the person can afford it. It's just easier to use for the neophyte. But that thinking may be dated now. It's not a disadvantage for future work however, since Apple and Wintel are virtually the same, except for the price. Apple sure gets its brand name out there among newscasters, with the Apple logo often in prominent view on their desks. ****ing effete snobs. I have used Windows based computers for years but am far from being a "PC expert". I just use them, I don't experiment and try to modify or change how they operate other than in the options that the application may allow. When my wife gave me an i-Mac for Christmas a couple of years ago I didn't find it to be "easy" to use at all. In fact, it was a pain in the ass. Apple seems to be much more dictatorial in terms of how you can set up applications (I still call them "programs" or "software") and it seemed very confusing to me in terms of their file structure and how you even used it. I also couldn't stand the stupid excuse for a keyboard that is included with an iMac. I tried for several months to get used to it but found myself going back to a Windows based PC when I wanted to get something done in a hurry. The iMac slowly started being used less and less until I finally sold it to someone who's Mac had just died. My wife still has the iMac I bought her. She wanted one with the big, 25" display, so I gave it to her the same year she bought mine. It now sits, mostly unused, because she uses a dinky, little iPhone for just about everything she does. She also has an iPad and is constantly watching movies on it from someplace. I don't even know how she gets them. I still have an iPad as well but don't use it. The only time it's used is when one of my granddaughters visits and wants to play "Peggle". My kids do most of the same things I do on my PC on the Iphones/Galaxies. But in much smaller graphics .. I'd say that the build quality of Apple's products is probably better than any of the Windows based computers I've had though. I can't complain about Hewlett Packard computers however. Have had good luck with them. Well, then what advantages do Apples offer except "status?" |
Interesting gun. I don't have one...
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:34:40 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:
In article QLadnbvM1aXBYOvLnZ2dnUU7- , says... On 12/20/2015 12:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On 12/19/15 10:06 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:32:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/19/15 8:14 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:52:58 -0500, John H. I think it is because the teacher/professors are not particularly computer literate (Apple is for people who don't want to know they have a computer) but it does put the kids at a disadvantage when they get out in the world and find out most businesses run Windows. I continue to find your comments about Apple computers and their owner/operators laughable, especially since I know a few high-level programmers who work almost exclusively with Apple computers. The "most businesses that run windows" are simply running apps that run under windows, and many of the same apps run under the apple OS. You think that the Microsoft Office Suite, probably the most popular and commonly found "business app" anywhere gives a **** whether it is running under windows or apple OS? \ You can't deny that the machine on your desk will be Wintel if you are in most businesses. So? McDonalds still sells mass quantities of ****ty burgers. Apple's selling point is ease of use. You've said that yourself. I'm something of an "PC expert,' and when asked for my recommendation for a laptop for a college student, I always recommend Apple if the person can afford it. It's just easier to use for the neophyte. But that thinking may be dated now. It's not a disadvantage for future work however, since Apple and Wintel are virtually the same, except for the price. Apple sure gets its brand name out there among newscasters, with the Apple logo often in prominent view on their desks. ****ing effete snobs. I have used Windows based computers for years but am far from being a "PC expert". I just use them, I don't experiment and try to modify or change how they operate other than in the options that the application may allow. When my wife gave me an i-Mac for Christmas a couple of years ago I didn't find it to be "easy" to use at all. In fact, it was a pain in the ass. Apple seems to be much more dictatorial in terms of how you can set up applications (I still call them "programs" or "software") and it seemed very confusing to me in terms of their file structure and how you even used it. I also couldn't stand the stupid excuse for a keyboard that is included with an iMac. I tried for several months to get used to it but found myself going back to a Windows based PC when I wanted to get something done in a hurry. The iMac slowly started being used less and less until I finally sold it to someone who's Mac had just died. My wife still has the iMac I bought her. She wanted one with the big, 25" display, so I gave it to her the same year she bought mine. It now sits, mostly unused, because she uses a dinky, little iPhone for just about everything she does. She also has an iPad and is constantly watching movies on it from someplace. I don't even know how she gets them. I still have an iPad as well but don't use it. The only time it's used is when one of my granddaughters visits and wants to play "Peggle". My kids do most of the same things I do on my PC on the Iphones/Galaxies. But in much smaller graphics . I'd say that the build quality of Apple's products is probably better than any of the Windows based computers I've had though. I can't complain about Hewlett Packard computers however. Have had good luck with them. Well, then what advantages do Apples offer except "status?" You missed my question. Who are the f'ing effete snobs? You attempt to sound pretty f'ing effete yourself. Is that because of your superior knowledge of ISIS? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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