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Interesting gun. I don't have one...
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:29:53 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:
wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote: You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now. Nah, gotta be new. OK, then you can't complain about the price. True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm figuring somewhere between$2-3K. === You can get a very good Windows laptop or desktop for much less than that. Here's an example: http://www.amazon.com/HP-Spectre-x360-13-4102dx-2560x1440/dp/B0114P9QM2 Don't buy any software. He'll be able to get it at *much* cheaper student rates when he's in college. It's unlikely that you'll get much of a discount on hardware however. Amazon will probably have better prices for that. Apple has student pricing on hardware and software. Find someone who has a friend or relative who works for Apple. They can get you family pricing. I think it was 20% discount. Good idea. Thanks. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
Interesting gun. I don't have one...
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:29:53 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:
wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:29:37 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:20:34 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote: You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now. Nah, gotta be new. OK, then you can't complain about the price. True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm figuring somewhere between$2-3K. Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power? I don't know. He only wants a 13" screen. Here's what he had on his Christmas list (which ain't gonna happen). "13 inch Macbook Pro (256GB storage model) w/retina display 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel i7, turbo boost up to 3.4 GHz, with 16 GB RAM" He said, when I asked him why he needed so much power, that the software they used in the biomed arena required it. His dad will check him out though. Just the fact that it is Apple adds a grand right on top. Can he run a windows machine? Lots of the schools seemed to be locked in to Apple. Sort of like school sports locked to Nike, etc. Come to think of it, all the ones I've bought for kids going to college have been Apple (Macs). There must be something going on with the schools. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
Interesting gun. I don't have one...
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:52:58 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:29:53 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:29:37 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:20:34 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote: You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now. Nah, gotta be new. OK, then you can't complain about the price. True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm figuring somewhere between$2-3K. Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power? I don't know. He only wants a 13" screen. Here's what he had on his Christmas list (which ain't gonna happen). "13 inch Macbook Pro (256GB storage model) w/retina display 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel i7, turbo boost up to 3.4 GHz, with 16 GB RAM" He said, when I asked him why he needed so much power, that the software they used in the biomed arena required it. His dad will check him out though. Just the fact that it is Apple adds a grand right on top. Can he run a windows machine? Lots of the schools seemed to be locked in to Apple. Sort of like school sports locked to Nike, etc. Come to think of it, all the ones I've bought for kids going to college have been Apple (Macs). There must be something going on with the schools. I think it is because the teacher/professors are not particularly computer literate (Apple is for people who don't want to know they have a computer) but it does put the kids at a disadvantage when they get out in the world and find out most businesses run Windows. |
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On 12/19/15 8:14 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:52:58 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:29:53 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:29:37 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:20:34 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote: You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now. Nah, gotta be new. OK, then you can't complain about the price. True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm figuring somewhere between$2-3K. Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power? I don't know. He only wants a 13" screen. Here's what he had on his Christmas list (which ain't gonna happen). "13 inch Macbook Pro (256GB storage model) w/retina display 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel i7, turbo boost up to 3.4 GHz, with 16 GB RAM" He said, when I asked him why he needed so much power, that the software they used in the biomed arena required it. His dad will check him out though. Just the fact that it is Apple adds a grand right on top. Can he run a windows machine? Lots of the schools seemed to be locked in to Apple. Sort of like school sports locked to Nike, etc. Come to think of it, all the ones I've bought for kids going to college have been Apple (Macs). There must be something going on with the schools. I think it is because the teacher/professors are not particularly computer literate (Apple is for people who don't want to know they have a computer) but it does put the kids at a disadvantage when they get out in the world and find out most businesses run Windows. I continue to find your comments about Apple computers and their owner/operators laughable, especially since I know a few high-level programmers who work almost exclusively with Apple computers. The "most businesses that run windows" are simply running apps that run under windows, and many of the same apps run under the apple OS. You think that the Microsoft Office Suite, probably the most popular and commonly found "business app" anywhere gives a **** whether it is running under windows or apple OS? |
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On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:32:58 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 12/19/15 8:14 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:52:58 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:29:53 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:29:37 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:20:34 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote: You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now. Nah, gotta be new. OK, then you can't complain about the price. True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm figuring somewhere between$2-3K. Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power? I don't know. He only wants a 13" screen. Here's what he had on his Christmas list (which ain't gonna happen). "13 inch Macbook Pro (256GB storage model) w/retina display 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel i7, turbo boost up to 3.4 GHz, with 16 GB RAM" He said, when I asked him why he needed so much power, that the software they used in the biomed arena required it. His dad will check him out though. Just the fact that it is Apple adds a grand right on top. Can he run a windows machine? Lots of the schools seemed to be locked in to Apple. Sort of like school sports locked to Nike, etc. Come to think of it, all the ones I've bought for kids going to college have been Apple (Macs). There must be something going on with the schools. I think it is because the teacher/professors are not particularly computer literate (Apple is for people who don't want to know they have a computer) but it does put the kids at a disadvantage when they get out in the world and find out most businesses run Windows. I continue to find your comments about Apple computers and their owner/operators laughable, especially since I know a few high-level programmers who work almost exclusively with Apple computers. The "most businesses that run windows" are simply running apps that run under windows, and many of the same apps run under the apple OS. You think that the Microsoft Office Suite, probably the most popular and commonly found "business app" anywhere gives a **** whether it is running under windows or apple OS? \ You can't deny that the machine on your desk will be Wintel if you are in most businesses. The GM at my wife's club is an Apple junkie but he still understands he will be running Windows desktops. If the person is any more than a typist, they will need to understand how to operate the Windows platform. Running "Office" apps is not the only thing they do. System integrators usually write business software to Windows. Apple got the penetration they have in education by giving away their products at cost (or less). That is why Eduquest was selling our products at a 60% discount to anyone who could hold up a school credential. They also got consulting and systems integration for free. Eduquest ran out of my office and I heard them griping about Apple "dumping" (selling below cost) on them all the time. I would be surprised if there is not a big discount these days too but I do understand that once a drug dealer has his customers hooked, he can raise prices. |
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True North wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote: You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now. Nah, gotta be new. OK, then you can't complain about the price. True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm figuring somewhere between$2-3K. "Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power?" Gaming....that's what my son says to me.......usually followed by how little capability I need for what I do. You said more than you will ever know! |
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Interesting gun. I don't have one...
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 20:14:53 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:52:58 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:29:53 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:29:37 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:20:34 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote: You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now. Nah, gotta be new. OK, then you can't complain about the price. True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm figuring somewhere between$2-3K. Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power? I don't know. He only wants a 13" screen. Here's what he had on his Christmas list (which ain't gonna happen). "13 inch Macbook Pro (256GB storage model) w/retina display 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel i7, turbo boost up to 3.4 GHz, with 16 GB RAM" He said, when I asked him why he needed so much power, that the software they used in the biomed arena required it. His dad will check him out though. Just the fact that it is Apple adds a grand right on top. Can he run a windows machine? Lots of the schools seemed to be locked in to Apple. Sort of like school sports locked to Nike, etc. Come to think of it, all the ones I've bought for kids going to college have been Apple (Macs). There must be something going on with the schools. I think it is because the teacher/professors are not particularly computer literate (Apple is for people who don't want to know they have a computer) but it does put the kids at a disadvantage when they get out in the world and find out most businesses run Windows. When I was teaching, the county provided all the teachers with Apple desktops and took away our Windows desktops. Of course none of the software we were using would work, so the county then gave us Windows emulators. That made things even messier. After a couple years, they went back to Windows machines. Lot of wasted money. Don't know what they're using now. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 12/19/15 10:06 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:32:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/19/15 8:14 PM, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:52:58 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:29:53 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:29:37 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:20:34 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:42:11 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 16:08:15 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:51:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:38:12 -0500, wrote: You can find some very capable machines coming off lease right now. Nah, gotta be new. OK, then you can't complain about the price. True. His dad's going to see what the school recommends once he gets accepted. I'm figuring somewhere between$2-3K. Sounds like a lot to me. What are they doing to need that much power? I don't know. He only wants a 13" screen. Here's what he had on his Christmas list (which ain't gonna happen). "13 inch Macbook Pro (256GB storage model) w/retina display 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel i7, turbo boost up to 3.4 GHz, with 16 GB RAM" He said, when I asked him why he needed so much power, that the software they used in the biomed arena required it. His dad will check him out though. Just the fact that it is Apple adds a grand right on top. Can he run a windows machine? Lots of the schools seemed to be locked in to Apple. Sort of like school sports locked to Nike, etc. Come to think of it, all the ones I've bought for kids going to college have been Apple (Macs). There must be something going on with the schools. I think it is because the teacher/professors are not particularly computer literate (Apple is for people who don't want to know they have a computer) but it does put the kids at a disadvantage when they get out in the world and find out most businesses run Windows. I continue to find your comments about Apple computers and their owner/operators laughable, especially since I know a few high-level programmers who work almost exclusively with Apple computers. The "most businesses that run windows" are simply running apps that run under windows, and many of the same apps run under the apple OS. You think that the Microsoft Office Suite, probably the most popular and commonly found "business app" anywhere gives a **** whether it is running under windows or apple OS? \ You can't deny that the machine on your desk will be Wintel if you are in most businesses. So? McDonalds still sells mass quantities of ****ty burgers. |
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