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Tim November 15th 15 07:35 PM

They're just thugs...
 
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:23:48 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 1:14 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:11:08 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 12:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 8:33:30 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:54:04 +0000, RGrew176
wrote:


;1048830 Wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:
-
At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time..
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.-

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

That is because they have pretty much banned Islam in China.

http://tinyurl.com/patk2fk

Smart moves.
--


Good grief...you righties really truly have your heads up your asses
when it comes to knowledge of the world and the way it is. If there is
an antidote for Fox News and crazy rightwingedness, you ought to take it
three times a day.

The PRC has *not* banned Islam. There are millions of Muslims in China,
there are Muslim schools, festivals, cultural activities, architectural,
ways to practice Muslim dietary laws.

The site RGrew176 cited is a right-wing, bat**** crazy christian site
run by a convert.

Say what you want but can, or will you prove it wrong?


Prove what? That the guy whose site it is is a convert to some sort of
christianity and has no particular "cred" on islam in China?


content Harry, content. can or will you disprove the article?


There are all sorts of non-religious sites that describe the status of
islam in china.

As for prove or disproves, here's one for you:

Prove the fellow you believe is your savior is the son of god.


And naturally, in your abstract way of "answering" questions. "What does that have to do wtth the article or it's author?

Tim November 15th 15 07:36 PM

They're just thugs...
 
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 1:29:25 PM UTC-6, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:38:42 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:28:29 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 09:33:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/15/15 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:54:04 +0000, RGrew176
wrote:


;1048830 Wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:
-
At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time..
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.-

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

That is because they have pretty much banned Islam in China.

http://tinyurl.com/patk2fk

Smart moves.
--


Good grief...you righties really truly have your heads up your asses
when it comes to knowledge of the world and the way it is. If there is
an antidote for Fox News and crazy rightwingedness, you ought to take it
three times a day.

The PRC has *not* banned Islam. There are millions of Muslims in China,
there are Muslim schools, festivals, cultural activities, architectural,
ways to practice Muslim dietary laws.

The site RGrew176 cited is a right-wing, bat**** crazy christian site
run by a convert.

Wow, apparently you didn't bother to read the article.


Harry admires the Chinese style commitment to the free exercise of
religion.
Essentially the policy is "It is OK as long as nobody ever sees it or
hears about it".
If it ever inconveniences the government in any way it is stamped out.

Personally I don't care either way. This is China and the chinese have
the right to run their country as they wish. It is really none of our
business as long as they don't bother us with it. We certainly do not
want them telling us how our government should work.
I am not even that upset that they are building islands in the South
China Sea.
These are largely uninhabited spits of volcanic rock that everyone
claimed but nobody actually wanted to do anything with. We should be
able to negotiate some kind of settlement here without shooting
anyone.


That's nice.

Can or will you dispute the article? Honestly, I don't think you can, but it was interesting reading your knee-jerk reaction to it.


Greg I must have hit the wrong response arrow. That was intended for Harold..

Califbill November 15th 15 07:44 PM

They're just thugs...
 
wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 10:20:47 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

China even banned Ramadan fasting at one time in
predominately Muslim regions.


How do you do that?
Force feed people?


Probably as effectively as us trying to bring democracy to Iraq,
Afghanistan, Syria, etc.


Keyser Söze November 15th 15 08:07 PM

They're just thugs...
 
On 11/15/15 2:35 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:23:48 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 1:14 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:11:08 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 12:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 8:33:30 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:54:04 +0000, RGrew176
wrote:


;1048830 Wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:
-
At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.-

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

That is because they have pretty much banned Islam in China.

http://tinyurl.com/patk2fk

Smart moves.
--


Good grief...you righties really truly have your heads up your asses
when it comes to knowledge of the world and the way it is. If there is
an antidote for Fox News and crazy rightwingedness, you ought to take it
three times a day.

The PRC has *not* banned Islam. There are millions of Muslims in China,
there are Muslim schools, festivals, cultural activities, architectural,
ways to practice Muslim dietary laws.

The site RGrew176 cited is a right-wing, bat**** crazy christian site
run by a convert.

Say what you want but can, or will you prove it wrong?


Prove what? That the guy whose site it is is a convert to some sort of
christianity and has no particular "cred" on islam in China?

content Harry, content. can or will you disprove the article?


There are all sorts of non-religious sites that describe the status of
islam in china.

As for prove or disproves, here's one for you:

Prove the fellow you believe is your savior is the son of god.


And naturally, in your abstract way of "answering" questions. "What does that have to do wtth the article or it's author?


It displays the level of your logical reasoning processes. You are
willing to believe a negative screed about Muslims in China when there
are many legitimate sites that state the opposite of what your religious
convert claimed. And, you are also willing to believe in the existence
of a "creator" and the alleged son of that creator without a shred of
tangible evidence proving either.

Hey, believe whatever you like on your religion, but obviously your
beliefs on at least parts of the real world have been shaped by Fox
News, spurious sites like the one you cited, and their ilk.

Tim November 15th 15 08:42 PM

They're just thugs...
 
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 2:07:58 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 2:35 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:23:48 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 1:14 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:11:08 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 12:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 8:33:30 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:54:04 +0000, RGrew176
wrote:


;1048830 Wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:
-
At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.-

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

That is because they have pretty much banned Islam in China.

http://tinyurl.com/patk2fk

Smart moves.
--


Good grief...you righties really truly have your heads up your asses
when it comes to knowledge of the world and the way it is. If there is
an antidote for Fox News and crazy rightwingedness, you ought to take it
three times a day.

The PRC has *not* banned Islam. There are millions of Muslims in China,
there are Muslim schools, festivals, cultural activities, architectural,
ways to practice Muslim dietary laws.

The site RGrew176 cited is a right-wing, bat**** crazy christian site
run by a convert.

Say what you want but can, or will you prove it wrong?


Prove what? That the guy whose site it is is a convert to some sort of
christianity and has no particular "cred" on islam in China?

content Harry, content. can or will you disprove the article?


There are all sorts of non-religious sites that describe the status of
islam in china.

As for prove or disproves, here's one for you:

Prove the fellow you believe is your savior is the son of god.


And naturally, in your abstract way of "answering" questions. "What does that have to do wtth the article or it's author?


It displays the level of your logical reasoning processes. You are
willing to believe a negative screed about Muslims in China when there
are many legitimate sites that state the opposite of what your religious
convert claimed.



What "legitimate sites you talking about?

And, you are also willing to believe in the existence
of a "creator" and the alleged son of that creator without a shred of
tangible evidence proving either.


ZZZZzzz

Hey, believe whatever you like on your religion, but obviously your
beliefs on at least parts of the real world have been shaped by Fox
News, spurious sites like the one you cited, and their ilk.


How perceptive of you Harry. I've had my religious beliefs before Fox News was ever thought of.

Keyser Söze November 15th 15 09:48 PM

They're just thugs...
 
On 11/15/15 3:42 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 2:07:58 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 2:35 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:23:48 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 1:14 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:11:08 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 12:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 8:33:30 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/15 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:54:04 +0000, RGrew176
wrote:


;1048830 Wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:
-
At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.-

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

That is because they have pretty much banned Islam in China.

http://tinyurl.com/patk2fk

Smart moves.
--


Good grief...you righties really truly have your heads up your asses
when it comes to knowledge of the world and the way it is. If there is
an antidote for Fox News and crazy rightwingedness, you ought to take it
three times a day.

The PRC has *not* banned Islam. There are millions of Muslims in China,
there are Muslim schools, festivals, cultural activities, architectural,
ways to practice Muslim dietary laws.

The site RGrew176 cited is a right-wing, bat**** crazy christian site
run by a convert.

Say what you want but can, or will you prove it wrong?


Prove what? That the guy whose site it is is a convert to some sort of
christianity and has no particular "cred" on islam in China?

content Harry, content. can or will you disprove the article?


There are all sorts of non-religious sites that describe the status of
islam in china.

As for prove or disproves, here's one for you:

Prove the fellow you believe is your savior is the son of god.

And naturally, in your abstract way of "answering" questions. "What does that have to do wtth the article or it's author?


It displays the level of your logical reasoning processes. You are
willing to believe a negative screed about Muslims in China when there
are many legitimate sites that state the opposite of what your religious
convert claimed.



What "legitimate sites you talking about?

And, you are also willing to believe in the existence
of a "creator" and the alleged son of that creator without a shred of
tangible evidence proving either.


ZZZZzzz

Hey, believe whatever you like on your religion, but obviously your
beliefs on at least parts of the real world have been shaped by Fox
News, spurious sites like the one you cited, and their ilk.


How perceptive of you Harry. I've had my religious beliefs before Fox News was ever thought of.



I was commenting on your non-religious beliefs.

[email protected] November 16th 15 12:20 AM

They're just thugs...
 
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:29:22 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:38:42 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:28:29 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 09:33:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/15/15 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:54:04 +0000, RGrew176
wrote:


;1048830 Wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:
-
At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.-

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

That is because they have pretty much banned Islam in China.

http://tinyurl.com/patk2fk

Smart moves.
--


Good grief...you righties really truly have your heads up your asses
when it comes to knowledge of the world and the way it is. If there is
an antidote for Fox News and crazy rightwingedness, you ought to take it
three times a day.

The PRC has *not* banned Islam. There are millions of Muslims in China,
there are Muslim schools, festivals, cultural activities, architectural,
ways to practice Muslim dietary laws.

The site RGrew176 cited is a right-wing, bat**** crazy christian site
run by a convert.

Wow, apparently you didn't bother to read the article.


Harry admires the Chinese style commitment to the free exercise of
religion.
Essentially the policy is "It is OK as long as nobody ever sees it or
hears about it".
If it ever inconveniences the government in any way it is stamped out.

Personally I don't care either way. This is China and the chinese have
the right to run their country as they wish. It is really none of our
business as long as they don't bother us with it. We certainly do not
want them telling us how our government should work.
I am not even that upset that they are building islands in the South
China Sea.
These are largely uninhabited spits of volcanic rock that everyone
claimed but nobody actually wanted to do anything with. We should be
able to negotiate some kind of settlement here without shooting
anyone.


That's nice.

Can or will you dispute the article? Honestly, I don't think you can, but it was interesting reading your knee-jerk reaction to it.


I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people
understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't
threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central
government.

Mr. Luddite November 16th 15 12:26 AM

They're just thugs...
 
On 11/15/2015 7:20 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:29:22 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:38:42 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:28:29 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 09:33:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/15/15 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:54:04 +0000, RGrew176
wrote:


;1048830 Wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:
-
At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.-

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

That is because they have pretty much banned Islam in China.

http://tinyurl.com/patk2fk

Smart moves.
--


Good grief...you righties really truly have your heads up your asses
when it comes to knowledge of the world and the way it is. If there is
an antidote for Fox News and crazy rightwingedness, you ought to take it
three times a day.

The PRC has *not* banned Islam. There are millions of Muslims in China,
there are Muslim schools, festivals, cultural activities, architectural,
ways to practice Muslim dietary laws.

The site RGrew176 cited is a right-wing, bat**** crazy christian site
run by a convert.

Wow, apparently you didn't bother to read the article.

Harry admires the Chinese style commitment to the free exercise of
religion.
Essentially the policy is "It is OK as long as nobody ever sees it or
hears about it".
If it ever inconveniences the government in any way it is stamped out.

Personally I don't care either way. This is China and the chinese have
the right to run their country as they wish. It is really none of our
business as long as they don't bother us with it. We certainly do not
want them telling us how our government should work.
I am not even that upset that they are building islands in the South
China Sea.
These are largely uninhabited spits of volcanic rock that everyone
claimed but nobody actually wanted to do anything with. We should be
able to negotiate some kind of settlement here without shooting
anyone.


That's nice.

Can or will you dispute the article? Honestly, I don't think you can, but it was interesting reading your knee-jerk reaction to it.


I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people
understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't
threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central
government.


Pretty much how it's supposed to work here.



[email protected] November 16th 15 01:31 AM

They're just thugs...
 
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people
understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't
threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central
government.


Pretty much how it's supposed to work here.


I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too
far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we
may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have
destroyed the GOP.
On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not
to ever see any sign of the religions too.

When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't
put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way


RGrew176 November 16th 15 02:20 AM

I don't think that Aljazeera could be considered to be a right wing news source.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/0...070016245.html

And CNN is certainly NOT a right wing news source.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/13/world/...ina-burqa-ban/

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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