On 9/28/15 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.


Even so, they're still longer than the five rounders and will stick out
the bottom of the rifle. Unless the zombies attack, I'll stick with the
shorter mags.

On 9/28/15 2:39 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:26:56 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either.

Gosh, and 6-8 months ago when I first started discussing them you thought they were
an inaccurate piece of crap. I suppose Ruger is making a better gun now, eh?

What a friggin' joke you are, Krause.
--

They're pretty good and accurate enough for plinking from 50 to 100
yards or so, and they do a nice job on plastic two liter sodapop
bottles, not that you could hit one at those distances. Ruger doesn't
make "crap" firearms, as far as I know. I like my Mini 14 for a couple
of reasons, one of which is that it is lighter than most AR15s.

Weren't you the one whining that they were "too short" for your
orangutan-length arms?

Funny, assuming you're not telling another lie, one of our more astute boaters said
to me a couple weeks ago, "Just watch, folks are talking about the mini-14, Harry
will be buying one pretty soon."

You are so predictable, Krause. Even if it's just another lie, you're predictable.

No, I wasn't putting down the rifle for any reason - you were. I've never fired one.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Astute boaters in rec.boats is an oxymoron.

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:55:09 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:39 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:26:56 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either.

Gosh, and 6-8 months ago when I first started discussing them you thought they were
an inaccurate piece of crap. I suppose Ruger is making a better gun now, eh?

What a friggin' joke you are, Krause.
--

They're pretty good and accurate enough for plinking from 50 to 100
yards or so, and they do a nice job on plastic two liter sodapop
bottles, not that you could hit one at those distances. Ruger doesn't
make "crap" firearms, as far as I know. I like my Mini 14 for a couple
of reasons, one of which is that it is lighter than most AR15s.

Weren't you the one whining that they were "too short" for your
orangutan-length arms?

Funny, assuming you're not telling another lie, one of our more astute boaters said
to me a couple weeks ago, "Just watch, folks are talking about the mini-14, Harry
will be buying one pretty soon."

You are so predictable, Krause. Even if it's just another lie, you're predictable.

No, I wasn't putting down the rifle for any reason - you were. I've never fired one.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Astute boaters in rec.boats is an oxymoron.

Yet you are here continuously.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On 9/28/15 3:40 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:55:09 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:39 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:26:56 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either.

Gosh, and 6-8 months ago when I first started discussing them you thought they were
an inaccurate piece of crap. I suppose Ruger is making a better gun now, eh?

What a friggin' joke you are, Krause.
--

They're pretty good and accurate enough for plinking from 50 to 100
yards or so, and they do a nice job on plastic two liter sodapop
bottles, not that you could hit one at those distances. Ruger doesn't
make "crap" firearms, as far as I know. I like my Mini 14 for a couple
of reasons, one of which is that it is lighter than most AR15s.

Weren't you the one whining that they were "too short" for your
orangutan-length arms?

Funny, assuming you're not telling another lie, one of our more astute boaters said
to me a couple weeks ago, "Just watch, folks are talking about the mini-14, Harry
will be buying one pretty soon."

You are so predictable, Krause. Even if it's just another lie, you're predictable.

No, I wasn't putting down the rifle for any reason - you were. I've never fired one.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Astute boaters in rec.boats is an oxymoron.

Yet you are here continuously.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


So which mini 14 did you get, johnnymop?

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:51:41 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.


Even so, they're still longer than the five rounders and will stick out
the bottom of the rifle. Unless the zombies attack, I'll stick with the
shorter mags.

Whatever you like, I was just pointing out the 10 round mags are
available. I actually like the 30 rd for my M1A. It works as a rest on
the bench. I have no problem controlling my rate of fire.

On 9/28/2015 6:01 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:51:41 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop"
welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.


Even so, they're still longer than the five rounders and will stick out
the bottom of the rifle. Unless the zombies attack, I'll stick with the
shorter mags.

Whatever you like, I was just pointing out the 10 round mags are
available. I actually like the 30 rd for my M1A. It works as a rest on
the bench. I have no problem controlling my rate of fire.


I don't, either. I just like to be slow and methodical about shooting
off ammo that costs more than a quarter a round. The small magazines and
the time taken to load them helps.

Kind of paradoxical for the guy who doesn't mind ****ing away dollar
after dollar on diesel fuel for his (imaginary?) boat that goes nowhere.

On 9/28/15 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:51:41 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.


Even so, they're still longer than the five rounders and will stick out
the bottom of the rifle. Unless the zombies attack, I'll stick with the
shorter mags.

Whatever you like, I was just pointing out the 10 round mags are
available. I actually like the 30 rd for my M1A. It works as a rest on
the bench. I have no problem controlling my rate of fire.


I don't, either. I just like to be slow and methodical about shooting
off ammo that costs more than a quarter a round. The small magazines and
the time taken to load them helps.

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:48:13 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 3:40 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:55:09 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:39 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:26:56 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either.

Gosh, and 6-8 months ago when I first started discussing them you thought they were
an inaccurate piece of crap. I suppose Ruger is making a better gun now, eh?

What a friggin' joke you are, Krause.
--

They're pretty good and accurate enough for plinking from 50 to 100
yards or so, and they do a nice job on plastic two liter sodapop
bottles, not that you could hit one at those distances. Ruger doesn't
make "crap" firearms, as far as I know. I like my Mini 14 for a couple
of reasons, one of which is that it is lighter than most AR15s.

Weren't you the one whining that they were "too short" for your
orangutan-length arms?

Funny, assuming you're not telling another lie, one of our more astute boaters said
to me a couple weeks ago, "Just watch, folks are talking about the mini-14, Harry
will be buying one pretty soon."

You are so predictable, Krause. Even if it's just another lie, you're predictable.

No, I wasn't putting down the rifle for any reason - you were. I've never fired one.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Astute boaters in rec.boats is an oxymoron.

Yet you are here continuously.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


So which mini 14 did you get, johnnymop?

Read.

No, I wasn't putting down the rifle for any reason - you were. I've never fired one.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:18:08 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 9/28/2015 6:01 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:51:41 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop"
welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.


Even so, they're still longer than the five rounders and will stick out
the bottom of the rifle. Unless the zombies attack, I'll stick with the
shorter mags.

Whatever you like, I was just pointing out the 10 round mags are
available. I actually like the 30 rd for my M1A. It works as a rest on
the bench. I have no problem controlling my rate of fire.


I don't, either. I just like to be slow and methodical about shooting
off ammo that costs more than a quarter a round. The small magazines and
the time taken to load them helps.

Kind of paradoxical for the guy who doesn't mind ****ing away dollar
after dollar on diesel fuel for his (imaginary?) boat that goes nowhere.

He's suffering from lack of self-control, obviously. Look at what he posts here.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On 9/28/15 7:56 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:48:13 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


So which mini 14 did you get, johnnymop?