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On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:29:47 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 11:23:58 -0400, wrote: That is somewhat unusual up there where you have good water but people in the Cape around Wayne's place have had a lot of serious pin holing problems in copper pipe. === We turn off our water when we're away for any length of time but still had our copper replaced with PVC after having one pinhole develop. The plumbers around here do a lively business with PVC replacement and they get to keep the copper as part of the deal. The theory du jour is that the RO treatment plant changes the PH level of the water just enough to make it corrosive. I never believed it until it happened to us. The other theories centered around the grade of the pipe and possible electrolysis caused by improper grounding practices. This has been going on around her for the 35 years I have been here. They had the same deal in St Pete. One of the reasons I sold my condo was the number of people who had their floors torn up to replace leaking pipe. Mine wasn't done yet and I didn't want the issue to bite me. Probably not the use, but the heat. |
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:22:24 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:
wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:29:47 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 11:23:58 -0400, wrote: That is somewhat unusual up there where you have good water but people in the Cape around Wayne's place have had a lot of serious pin holing problems in copper pipe. === We turn off our water when we're away for any length of time but still had our copper replaced with PVC after having one pinhole develop. The plumbers around here do a lively business with PVC replacement and they get to keep the copper as part of the deal. The theory du jour is that the RO treatment plant changes the PH level of the water just enough to make it corrosive. I never believed it until it happened to us. The other theories centered around the grade of the pipe and possible electrolysis caused by improper grounding practices. This has been going on around her for the 35 years I have been here. They had the same deal in St Pete. One of the reasons I sold my condo was the number of people who had their floors torn up to replace leaking pipe. Mine wasn't done yet and I didn't want the issue to bite me. Probably not the use, but the heat. More likely the water. Heat should not be much of an issue in air conditioned space. |
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On 9/3/2015 4:52 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:22:24 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote: wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:29:47 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 11:23:58 -0400, wrote: That is somewhat unusual up there where you have good water but people in the Cape around Wayne's place have had a lot of serious pin holing problems in copper pipe. === We turn off our water when we're away for any length of time but still had our copper replaced with PVC after having one pinhole develop. The plumbers around here do a lively business with PVC replacement and they get to keep the copper as part of the deal. The theory du jour is that the RO treatment plant changes the PH level of the water just enough to make it corrosive. I never believed it until it happened to us. The other theories centered around the grade of the pipe and possible electrolysis caused by improper grounding practices. This has been going on around her for the 35 years I have been here. They had the same deal in St Pete. One of the reasons I sold my condo was the number of people who had their floors torn up to replace leaking pipe. Mine wasn't done yet and I didn't want the issue to bite me. Probably not the use, but the heat. More likely the water. Heat should not be much of an issue in air conditioned space. I took the "heat" reference to mean the hot water pipes being more prone to developing leaks. A/C would have very little affect on pipes buried in walls, plus the delta T difference is minimal. |
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#5
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 17:13:23 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 9/3/2015 4:52 PM, wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:22:24 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote: wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:29:47 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 11:23:58 -0400, wrote: That is somewhat unusual up there where you have good water but people in the Cape around Wayne's place have had a lot of serious pin holing problems in copper pipe. === We turn off our water when we're away for any length of time but still had our copper replaced with PVC after having one pinhole develop. The plumbers around here do a lively business with PVC replacement and they get to keep the copper as part of the deal. The theory du jour is that the RO treatment plant changes the PH level of the water just enough to make it corrosive. I never believed it until it happened to us. The other theories centered around the grade of the pipe and possible electrolysis caused by improper grounding practices. This has been going on around her for the 35 years I have been here. They had the same deal in St Pete. One of the reasons I sold my condo was the number of people who had their floors torn up to replace leaking pipe. Mine wasn't done yet and I didn't want the issue to bite me. Probably not the use, but the heat. More likely the water. Heat should not be much of an issue in air conditioned space. I took the "heat" reference to mean the hot water pipes being more prone to developing leaks. A/C would have very little affect on pipes buried in walls, plus the delta T difference is minimal. I understand that but I am not sure it is only the hot water pipe that fails. |
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#6
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 19:06:59 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 17:13:23 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 9/3/2015 4:52 PM, wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:22:24 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote: wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:29:47 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 11:23:58 -0400, wrote: That is somewhat unusual up there where you have good water but people in the Cape around Wayne's place have had a lot of serious pin holing problems in copper pipe. === We turn off our water when we're away for any length of time but still had our copper replaced with PVC after having one pinhole develop. The plumbers around here do a lively business with PVC replacement and they get to keep the copper as part of the deal. The theory du jour is that the RO treatment plant changes the PH level of the water just enough to make it corrosive. I never believed it until it happened to us. The other theories centered around the grade of the pipe and possible electrolysis caused by improper grounding practices. This has been going on around her for the 35 years I have been here. They had the same deal in St Pete. One of the reasons I sold my condo was the number of people who had their floors torn up to replace leaking pipe. Mine wasn't done yet and I didn't want the issue to bite me. Probably not the use, but the heat. More likely the water. Heat should not be much of an issue in air conditioned space. I took the "heat" reference to mean the hot water pipes being more prone to developing leaks. A/C would have very little affect on pipes buried in walls, plus the delta T difference is minimal. I understand that but I am not sure it is only the hot water pipe that fails. Go read my last response to Luddite re what the plumber said. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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#7
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:22:24 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote: wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:29:47 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 11:23:58 -0400, wrote: That is somewhat unusual up there where you have good water but people in the Cape around Wayne's place have had a lot of serious pin holing problems in copper pipe. === We turn off our water when we're away for any length of time but still had our copper replaced with PVC after having one pinhole develop. The plumbers around here do a lively business with PVC replacement and they get to keep the copper as part of the deal. The theory du jour is that the RO treatment plant changes the PH level of the water just enough to make it corrosive. I never believed it until it happened to us. The other theories centered around the grade of the pipe and possible electrolysis caused by improper grounding practices. This has been going on around her for the 35 years I have been here. They had the same deal in St Pete. One of the reasons I sold my condo was the number of people who had their floors torn up to replace leaking pipe. Mine wasn't done yet and I didn't want the issue to bite me. Probably not the use, but the heat. More likely the water. Heat should not be much of an issue in air conditioned space. Hot water will act faster than cold water on the metal. If a little corrosive, then the hot water will kick it up a notch. |
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