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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:43:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 9:12 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:25:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 6:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:41:32 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote:

Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?


Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and
sodapop bottles?

Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal
is not.


So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave
are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run
into a petulant pomeranian?

We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and
bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared.

There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within
walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the
lawn



Why do you think your experience or lack of it with bears and cougars is
relevant to the packs of feral dogs that were and maybe still are active
around some of the trails above the Shenandoah River?

Sounds like an irrational fear to me mr braveheart.


My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.

No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



My disdain for "great white hunters" and their "sport" has nothing to do
with vegetarianism or environmentalism. If you think that, perhaps it is
just too existential for you.

It is just not a position that makes much sense when you step back and
look at it. You have no problem killing for food, as long as you don't
have to watch and you don't mind killing a stray dog but someone who
kills for food is the target of your "disdain".
I guess you know, democrats hunt too?
It is not all just republicans.

Just to put this in perspective, I have not hunted for close to 40
years but I still defend the right to do it and I do not feel the
desire to **** on people who do.




So, everyone should feel and behave as you do on this issue, eh? Let me
know how that works out for you.

I don't give a **** whether you hunt or not. I don't like "sport
hunting" or "sport hunters."

They why won't you shut the **** up about it?
This is just more of your trolling.


Oh, I see. We're not supposed to mention here what we don't like. Is
that a new rule that you follow?

The rule I always follow is to be able to debate someone's position
without an ad hominem personal attack.
It seems to elude you.



What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

Thank you, that was a very cogent and concise response.

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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:23:31 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 6:06:25 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:

Because it doesn't chew its cud and it doesn't have split hooves. Both
are requirements for "meat" to be kosher.

Leviticus 11:3-8:

Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among
the animals, you may eat.

Thus, the guinea pig is not kosher.

Eat anything you want, it's all "Kosher"

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...6&version=NRSV

Harry is talking about observant Jews, not the heretic Christians with
their "new" bible. ;-)

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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/24/15 9:12 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:25:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 6:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:41:32 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote:

Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?


Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and
sodapop bottles?

Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal
is not.


So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave
are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run
into a petulant pomeranian?

We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and
bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared.

There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within
walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the
lawn



Why do you think your experience or lack of it with bears and cougars is
relevant to the packs of feral dogs that were and maybe still are active
around some of the trails above the Shenandoah River?

Sounds like an irrational fear to me mr braveheart.


My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.

No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



My disdain for "great white hunters" and their "sport" has nothing to do
with vegetarianism or environmentalism. If you think that, perhaps it is
just too existential for you.

It is just not a position that makes much sense when you step back and
look at it. You have no problem killing for food, as long as you don't
have to watch and you don't mind killing a stray dog but someone who
kills for food is the target of your "disdain".
I guess you know, democrats hunt too?
It is not all just republicans.

Just to put this in perspective, I have not hunted for close to 40
years but I still defend the right to do it and I do not feel the
desire to **** on people who do.




So, everyone should feel and behave as you do on this issue, eh? Let me
know how that works out for you.

I don't give a **** whether you hunt or not. I don't like "sport
hunting" or "sport hunters."

They why won't you shut the **** up about it?
This is just more of your trolling.


Oh, I see. We're not supposed to mention here what we don't like. Is
that a new rule that you follow?

The rule I always follow is to be able to debate someone's position
without an ad hominem personal attack.
It seems to elude you.



What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person.

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:44:41 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 8/24/2015 3:10 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:21:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 8/24/15 2:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/24/2015 11:59 AM, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.



No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



That's just Harry's style. Ironically, it's also Donald Trump's style.

It's why I got sick of attempting any discussion with Harry. He reverts
to dishonesty in his accusations (i.e. if you don't like or support
Hilary you are automatically a "right-winger").


That's bull****.

True. Your dishonesty is downright bull****.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

And his bull**** is downright dishonest.

He's in big trouble now. Calling Luddite a liar. Sheeesh. Luddite was
his last friend of any consequence.

The Krause is hanging onto Luddite's every word. Must be bothersome for him. Another
person fed up with his bull****.

Gosh, if Donne' gets fed up, who will poor Krausee have?

Damn shame.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:26:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/24/2015 4:44 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 8/24/2015 3:10 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:21:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 8/24/15 2:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/24/2015 11:59 AM, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.



No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



That's just Harry's style. Ironically, it's also Donald Trump's style.

It's why I got sick of attempting any discussion with Harry. He
reverts
to dishonesty in his accusations (i.e. if you don't like or support
Hilary you are automatically a "right-winger").


That's bull****.

True. Your dishonesty is downright bull****.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

And his bull**** is downright dishonest.

He's in big trouble now. Calling Luddite a liar. Sheeesh. Luddite was
his last friend of any consequence.



Heh. Harry says, "That's bull****"? Holy crap.

I lost count of the number of times I pointed out to him that
I am not "anti-Democrat" ... I am anti-Hillary. I even expressed
hope that other more qualified Dems declare their candidacy. But it
doesn't matter to him. Because I can't support his preference of a
POTUS nominee, he continued referring the GOP as being "my party" or
Jeb Bush "my man". Since he only has one criteria by which he
categorizes *all* Republicans (republi-trash) it follows that he
includes me in that group.

That's dishonest, but it's par for the course in Harry's world I guess.

I am neither a Republican or a Democrat, a group that Harry doesn't
think exists apparently, yet Independents make up the majority of voters.



The boy's called me a racist for several years now, which is as much a lie as my
killing women and children in Vietnam. When has the truth ever mattered to Krause?

When you stop and think about it, being called a 'Republican' isn't all that bad.
Could be worse.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 8/24/15 6:26 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/24/2015 4:44 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 8/24/2015 3:10 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:21:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 8/24/15 2:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/24/2015 11:59 AM, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and
literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.



No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a
vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



That's just Harry's style. Ironically, it's also Donald Trump's
style.

It's why I got sick of attempting any discussion with Harry. He
reverts
to dishonesty in his accusations (i.e. if you don't like or support
Hilary you are automatically a "right-winger").


That's bull****.

True. Your dishonesty is downright bull****.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

And his bull**** is downright dishonest.

He's in big trouble now. Calling Luddite a liar. Sheeesh. Luddite was
his last friend of any consequence.



Heh. Harry says, "That's bull****"? Holy crap.

I lost count of the number of times I pointed out to him that
I am not "anti-Democrat" ... I am anti-Hillary. I even expressed
hope that other more qualified Dems declare their candidacy. But it
doesn't matter to him. Because I can't support his preference of a
POTUS nominee, he continued referring the GOP as being "my party" or
Jeb Bush "my man". Since he only has one criteria by which he
categorizes *all* Republicans (republi-trash) it follows that he
includes me in that group.

That's dishonest, but it's par for the course in Harry's world I guess.

I am neither a Republican or a Democrat, a group that Harry doesn't
think exists apparently, yet Independents make up the majority of voters.




My preference for a candidate is the Democrat who will beat any
Republican nominee.

...which proves my inability to think for myself.

Fixed.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:57:43 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:02:31 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I was referring to animals with hooves who chew their cud as kosher
meat. I suppose that was far too abstract for the boys here.

===

You have told us many times that it's all superstition, kosher and
everything else. You can't have it both ways so sit down, shutup, and
eat that guinea pig.

LOL!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On 8/24/15 10:23 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 6:06:25 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 8:48 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 7:50 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 3:48 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:53:06 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote:
Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range
punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a
better option to the SKS.



Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks? :)

The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I
suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering.

Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my
cheap ammo of choice.

100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy
access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me,
and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver
really accurately at 50 yards or more... :)

The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is
better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can.
If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat.
The world is awash with it.



Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass
cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic
300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that.

I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived
that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had
nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it.


The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the
barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun
noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly
out of a hand gun.

Have you tried these
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose

I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed
rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain
down range performance.

Why not use .22 shorts?

I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what
you do.



Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make
squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue.

If you live in an Italian boarding house, was squirrel cachetore (so).

Krause considers squirrel hunting a show of courage. Probably never ate squirrel in
his life. I prefer rabbit, but squirrel's not bad, unless it's a 15 year-old tough
assed boar.
--


Good grief, the stupid runs deep in you, Herring.

Did you make these for your grandkids, Mr. Brave White Hunter?

http://tinyurl.com/oy7azwl

Oh, you're right...I don't eat rodents like squirrels, mice, rats,
prairie dogs, porcupines, beavers, guinea pigs, or hamsters. Or rabbits.

Now, if you are hunting armed only with a camera and you get real close
to wild animals who can rip off and eat your face, then...you are a brave
hunter and sportsman/woman.



Guinea pig is tough and greasy. At least the one I was served in Peru.
They are raised there for food. The Last Supper paining in the city of
Cusco main church has a roasted guinea Pig on the platter.


I'll be glad to take your word on that. :)

Why would guinea pig be not kosher? Not really swine.
Pics
http://www.delange.org/CathedralCusc...edralCusco.htm


Because it doesn't chew its cud and it doesn't have split hooves. Both
are requirements for "meat" to be kosher.

Leviticus 11:3-8:

Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among
the animals, you may eat.

Thus, the guinea pig is not kosher.

Eat anything you want, it's all "Kosher"

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...6&version=NRSV



Oh. Well, my guess is that Jews who observe their religion's dietary
laws don't really give a tinker's dam about your religion's rewrite.

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On 8/25/15 1:23 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/24/15 9:12 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:25:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 6:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:41:32 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote:

Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?


Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and
sodapop bottles?

Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal
is not.


So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave
are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run
into a petulant pomeranian?

We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and
bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared.

There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within
walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the
lawn



Why do you think your experience or lack of it with bears and cougars is
relevant to the packs of feral dogs that were and maybe still are active
around some of the trails above the Shenandoah River?

Sounds like an irrational fear to me mr braveheart.


My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.

No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



My disdain for "great white hunters" and their "sport" has nothing to do
with vegetarianism or environmentalism. If you think that, perhaps it is
just too existential for you.

It is just not a position that makes much sense when you step back and
look at it. You have no problem killing for food, as long as you don't
have to watch and you don't mind killing a stray dog but someone who
kills for food is the target of your "disdain".
I guess you know, democrats hunt too?
It is not all just republicans.

Just to put this in perspective, I have not hunted for close to 40
years but I still defend the right to do it and I do not feel the
desire to **** on people who do.




So, everyone should feel and behave as you do on this issue, eh? Let me
know how that works out for you.

I don't give a **** whether you hunt or not. I don't like "sport
hunting" or "sport hunters."

They why won't you shut the **** up about it?
This is just more of your trolling.


Oh, I see. We're not supposed to mention here what we don't like. Is
that a new rule that you follow?

The rule I always follow is to be able to debate someone's position
without an ad hominem personal attack.
It seems to elude you.



What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person.


Wrong again, Bilious. I don't believe all hunting is sport hunting.

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On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 3:40:54 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/24/15 10:23 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 6:06:25 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 8:48 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 7:50 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 3:48 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:53:06 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote:
Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range
punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a
better option to the SKS.



Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks? :)

The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I
suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering.

Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my
cheap ammo of choice.

100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy
access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me,
and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver
really accurately at 50 yards or more... :)

The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is
better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can.
If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat.
The world is awash with it.



Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass
cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic
300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that.

I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived
that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had
nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it.


The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the
barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun
noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly
out of a hand gun.

Have you tried these
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose

I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed
rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain
down range performance.

Why not use .22 shorts?

I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what
you do.



Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make
squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue.

If you live in an Italian boarding house, was squirrel cachetore (so).

Krause considers squirrel hunting a show of courage. Probably never ate squirrel in
his life. I prefer rabbit, but squirrel's not bad, unless it's a 15 year-old tough
assed boar.
--


Good grief, the stupid runs deep in you, Herring.

Did you make these for your grandkids, Mr. Brave White Hunter?

http://tinyurl.com/oy7azwl

Oh, you're right...I don't eat rodents like squirrels, mice, rats,
prairie dogs, porcupines, beavers, guinea pigs, or hamsters. Or rabbits.

Now, if you are hunting armed only with a camera and you get real close
to wild animals who can rip off and eat your face, then...you are a brave
hunter and sportsman/woman.



Guinea pig is tough and greasy. At least the one I was served in Peru.
They are raised there for food. The Last Supper paining in the city of
Cusco main church has a roasted guinea Pig on the platter.


I'll be glad to take your word on that. :)

Why would guinea pig be not kosher? Not really swine.
Pics
http://www.delange.org/CathedralCusc...edralCusco.htm


Because it doesn't chew its cud and it doesn't have split hooves. Both
are requirements for "meat" to be kosher.

Leviticus 11:3-8:

Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among
the animals, you may eat.

Thus, the guinea pig is not kosher.

Eat anything you want, it's all "Kosher"

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...6&version=NRSV



Oh. Well, my guess is that Jews who observe their religion's dietary
laws don't really give a tinker's dam about your religion's rewrite.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/3EoAAOSwuMFUgLqD/$_1.JPG

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On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 04:37:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


Eat anything you want, it's all "Kosher"

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...6&version=NRSV



Oh. Well, my guess is that Jews who observe their religion's dietary
laws don't really give a tinker's dam about your religion's rewrite.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/3EoAAOSwuMFUgLqD/$_1.JPG

LOL! The only thing better is more of it!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On 8/25/15 7:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 3:40:54 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:




Oh. Well, my guess is that Jews who observe their religion's dietary
laws don't really give a tinker's dam about your religion's rewrite.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/3EoAAOSwuMFUgLqD/$_1.JPG



If there was a Jesus and he was an itinerant rabbi of sorts, he likely
followed the Jewish dietary laws of his time, Tim. Your "saviour," if he
existed, was born a Jew, lived as a Jew, and died as a Jew. He did not
conjure up a "new" religion. Christianity began as a cult and as it
evolved all manner of beliefs were added to it, and many of these were
perpetrated by the powerful and wealthy to help the poor masses better
survive the horrors of their meager existence in the hope for a "better
life" with Jesus in the next world.

There isn't the slightest bit of proof that *your* religion developed
differently than any other religion...as a series of superstitions, folk
tales, oral storytelling, interpretations of history, et cetera,
codified into beliefs over the years.

It's a giggle watching your conservative Republican politicians proclaim
their Christianity at the same time their actions belie their "belief"
in Christ. If it were otherwise, they'd behave more like Jimmy Carter
and less like Ted Cruz.

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On 8/25/15 7:50 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 04:37:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


Eat anything you want, it's all "Kosher"

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...6&version=NRSV



Oh. Well, my guess is that Jews who observe their religion's dietary
laws don't really give a tinker's dam about your religion's rewrite.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/3EoAAOSwuMFUgLqD/$_1.JPG

LOL! The only thing better is more of it!
--


I think it is great that you conservatives stuff yourselves with fatty
unhealthy foods filled with poisonous additives. Eventually it clears
out the gene pool.

S&W M&P 15/22
 

Stuff with fatty foods? You mean like squirrel?

"Here Everett, wou want some gopher?"

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On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:39:56 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

It's a giggle watching your conservative Republican politicians proclaim
their Christianity at the same time their actions belie their "belief"
in Christ. If it were otherwise, they'd behave more like Jimmy Carter
and less like Ted Cruz.

===

And that concludes our religious lesson of the day, brought to you by
renowned aetheist/agnostic, Harry Krause. Or maybe not.

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On 8/25/2015 10:18 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:29:41 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:39:56 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

It's a giggle watching your conservative Republican politicians proclaim
their Christianity at the same time their actions belie their "belief"
in Christ. If it were otherwise, they'd behave more like Jimmy Carter
and less like Ted Cruz.

===

And that concludes our religious lesson of the day, brought to you by
renowned aetheist/agnostic, Harry Krause. Or maybe not.

:)

What do they call Jews who've left their faith?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Agnostics?

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On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:29:41 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:39:56 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

It's a giggle watching your conservative Republican politicians proclaim
their Christianity at the same time their actions belie their "belief"
in Christ. If it were otherwise, they'd behave more like Jimmy Carter
and less like Ted Cruz.

===

And that concludes our religious lesson of the day, brought to you by
renowned aetheist/agnostic, Harry Krause. Or maybe not.

:)

What do they call Jews who've left their faith?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:47:03 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 8/25/2015 10:18 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:29:41 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:39:56 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

It's a giggle watching your conservative Republican politicians proclaim
their Christianity at the same time their actions belie their "belief"
in Christ. If it were otherwise, they'd behave more like Jimmy Carter
and less like Ted Cruz.

===

And that concludes our religious lesson of the day, brought to you by
renowned aetheist/agnostic, Harry Krause. Or maybe not.

:)

What do they call Jews who've left their faith?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Agnostics?

Sounds good.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On 8/25/15 11:09 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:47:03 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 8/25/2015 10:18 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:29:41 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:39:56 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

It's a giggle watching your conservative Republican politicians proclaim
their Christianity at the same time their actions belie their "belief"
in Christ. If it were otherwise, they'd behave more like Jimmy Carter
and less like Ted Cruz.

===

And that concludes our religious lesson of the day, brought to you by
renowned aetheist/agnostic, Harry Krause. Or maybe not.

:)

What do they call Jews who've left their faith?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Agnostics?

Sounds good.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


So you two social scientists conducted a survey, eh? What did you
do...poll each other?

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On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:40:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh. Well, my guess is that Jews who observe their religion's dietary
laws don't really give a tinker's dam about your religion's rewrite.

Is Jew who doesn't follow the laws of his religion still a Jew?

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:42:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 1:23 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:

What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person.


Wrong again, Bilil. I don't believe all hunting is sport hunting.

I would draw that line at "trophy hunts" and I include fishermen in
that.
Fortunately actually killing trophy fish is on the decline, mostly
driven by the captains who make their living looking for these fish
for their customers.
"Mounts" are usually just a fiberglass replica anyway so now they
encourage taking measurements and maybe a picture, then returning the
fish to the water.

I think you could do the same thing for trophy hunters if you could
change the culture a little.

The reality is, that trophy buck is not anything you want to eat
anyway. You are a lot better off shooting "Bambi" for food and let the
buck go around making more Bambis.

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On 8/25/15 12:11 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:40:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh. Well, my guess is that Jews who observe their religion's dietary
laws don't really give a tinker's dam about your religion's rewrite.

Is Jew who doesn't follow the laws of his religion still a Jew?



I have no idea. I suggest you pose that question to rabbis in each of
Judaism's various sects. I do know from growing up when and where I did
that "reform" Jews for the most part do not follow Jewish dietary
regulations. Of course, that was in the days when most Catholics ate
fish on Fridays, and fish was the menu choice in our public junior and
senior high schools on that day of the week. Dietary regs apparently
have "slipped." :)

On the other hand, all the schoolkids were grateful for the Jews,
because the public schools closed on the Jewish High Holidays.

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:41:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/3EoAAOSwuMFUgLqD/$_1.JPG

LOL! The only thing better is more of it!
--


I think it is great that you conservatives stuff yourselves with fatty
unhealthy foods filled with poisonous additives. Eventually it clears
out the gene pool.


I am not sure there is much evidence to support that fear but Tim says
he eats a lot of game that has none of those things, unlike the stuff
in the foam tray at Giant.

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On 8/25/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:42:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 1:23 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:

What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person.


Wrong again, Bilil. I don't believe all hunting is sport hunting.

I would draw that line at "trophy hunts" and I include fishermen in
that.
Fortunately actually killing trophy fish is on the decline, mostly
driven by the captains who make their living looking for these fish
for their customers.
"Mounts" are usually just a fiberglass replica anyway so now they
encourage taking measurements and maybe a picture, then returning the
fish to the water.

I think you could do the same thing for trophy hunters if you could
change the culture a little.

The reality is, that trophy buck is not anything you want to eat
anyway. You are a lot better off shooting "Bambi" for food and let the
buck go around making more Bambis.



Our deer wander through the yard almost daily, but know enough, somehow,
not to eat my wife's hostas until the fall. They do like rose petals,
though. Sometimes I shoot the deer...with a camera.

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On 8/25/15 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:41:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/3EoAAOSwuMFUgLqD/$_1.JPG

LOL! The only thing better is more of it!
--


I think it is great that you conservatives stuff yourselves with fatty
unhealthy foods filled with poisonous additives. Eventually it clears
out the gene pool.


I am not sure there is much evidence to support that fear but Tim says
he eats a lot of game that has none of those things, unlike the stuff
in the foam tray at Giant.



We don't eat much "meat" in this household, and we have a local supplier
of allegedly "free range" chickens that aren't feed from the Monsanto
bags, or whoever the supplier of chemically laced barnyard animal food
is... Also know a couple of local fishermen who usually have good
quality fresh seafood to sell. I never buy tilapia. :)

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On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Stuff with fatty foods? You mean like squirrel?

"Here Everett, wou want some gopher?"

"No thank you, Delmar. A third of a gopher would only arouse my
appetite without beddin' 'er back down"

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On 8/25/15 12:29 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Stuff with fatty foods? You mean like squirrel?

"Here Everett, wou want some gopher?"

"No thank you, Delmar. A third of a gopher would only arouse my
appetite without beddin' 'er back down"



What was that silly movie with Stallone where he was unfrozen from a
prison to catch a master criminal and in the process went underground
and ordered a burger, only to find out it was a ratmeat burger?

Bon appetit, fellas.

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On 8/25/2015 10:18 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:29:41 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:39:56 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

It's a giggle watching your conservative Republican politicians proclaim
their Christianity at the same time their actions belie their "belief"
in Christ. If it were otherwise, they'd behave more like Jimmy Carter
and less like Ted Cruz.

===

And that concludes our religious lesson of the day, brought to you by
renowned aetheist/agnostic, Harry Krause. Or maybe not.

:)




What do they call Jews who've left their faith?


Penniless?


(I know, I know ... not nice and certainly not very "PC" of me. It's a
joke folks)

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:09:13 -0400, John H.
wrote:

What do they call Jews who've left their faith?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Agnostics?

Sounds good.
--

Virtually every agnostic I know comes from a mixed Catholic/Jewish
background. I always assumed that when you realize that one of your
parents could switch their faith, it might make you question all of
it.

I am a spiritual person but I do not have any brand loyalty. I think
there is wisdom in all of these faiths but it is mixed in with a
helping of unnecessary dogma.

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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/25/2015 10:18 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:29:41 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:39:56 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

It's a giggle watching your conservative Republican politicians proclaim
their Christianity at the same time their actions belie their "belief"
in Christ. If it were otherwise, they'd behave more like Jimmy Carter
and less like Ted Cruz.

===

And that concludes our religious lesson of the day, brought to you by
renowned aetheist/agnostic, Harry Krause. Or maybe not.

:)




What do they call Jews who've left their faith?


Penniless?


(I know, I know ... not nice and certainly not very "PC" of me. It's a joke folks)

Funny also.

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 12:23:54 PM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/25/15 12:11 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:40:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh. Well, my guess is that Jews who observe their religion's dietary
laws don't really give a tinker's dam about your religion's rewrite.

Is Jew who doesn't follow the laws of his religion still a Jew?



I have no idea. I suggest you pose that question to rabbis in each of
Judaism's various sects. I do know from growing up when and where I did
that "reform" Jews for the most part do not follow Jewish dietary
regulations. Of course, that was in the days when most Catholics ate
fish on Fridays, and fish was the menu choice in our public junior and
senior high schools on that day of the week. Dietary regs apparently
have "slipped." :)

On the other hand, all the schoolkids were grateful for the Jews,
because the public schools closed on the Jewish High Holidays.

So mixing church and state was OK with you then, but not now?

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On 8/25/15 1:19 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:09:13 -0400, John H.
wrote:

What do they call Jews who've left their faith?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Agnostics?

Sounds good.
--

Virtually every agnostic I know comes from a mixed Catholic/Jewish
background. I always assumed that when you realize that one of your
parents could switch their faith, it might make you question all of
it.

I am a spiritual person but I do not have any brand loyalty. I think
there is wisdom in all of these faiths but it is mixed in with a
helping of unnecessary dogma.



I don't know many agnostics or atheists, but I know plenty of people who
have given up altogether on "organized religion."

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:23:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 12:11 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:40:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh. Well, my guess is that Jews who observe their religion's dietary
laws don't really give a tinker's dam about your religion's rewrite.

Is Jew who doesn't follow the laws of his religion still a Jew?



I have no idea. I suggest you pose that question to rabbis in each of
Judaism's various sects. I do know from growing up when and where I did
that "reform" Jews for the most part do not follow Jewish dietary
regulations. Of course, that was in the days when most Catholics ate
fish on Fridays, and fish was the menu choice in our public junior and
senior high schools on that day of the week. Dietary regs apparently
have "slipped." :)

I remember when the pope said a burger in Friday was not going to
doom you to hell. George Carlin lost a whole string of jokes.

On the other hand, all the schoolkids were grateful for the Jews,
because the public schools closed on the Jewish High Holidays.

Must have been a northern thing. In DC and Maryland the jewish kids
took a day off but the rest of us were in school.
IBM dealt with all of this by giving us 6 "optional holidays" that you
could take any time you liked along with the 6 or 7 nationally
recognized holidays. It was really just an extra few vacation days but
you had a way to say you got your particular holidays off.

It never really mattered that much to me. I ended up working most of
the holidays anyway (no kids for most of my career). I let the people
who found it important, to have their day with the family. I would
just take another day off somewhere and pocket the holiday pay.

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:25:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:42:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 1:23 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:

What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person.


Wrong again, Bilil. I don't believe all hunting is sport hunting.

I would draw that line at "trophy hunts" and I include fishermen in
that.
Fortunately actually killing trophy fish is on the decline, mostly
driven by the captains who make their living looking for these fish
for their customers.
"Mounts" are usually just a fiberglass replica anyway so now they
encourage taking measurements and maybe a picture, then returning the
fish to the water.

I think you could do the same thing for trophy hunters if you could
change the culture a little.

The reality is, that trophy buck is not anything you want to eat
anyway. You are a lot better off shooting "Bambi" for food and let the
buck go around making more Bambis.



Our deer wander through the yard almost daily, but know enough, somehow,
not to eat my wife's hostas until the fall. They do like rose petals,
though. Sometimes I shoot the deer...with a camera.

I wouldn't take a deer either but I have no problem with those who do.
We don't really have that many that come into neighborhoods because
there is plenty of natural habitat around here. It is pretty much the
same with the bears and the hogs. Up closer to Ft Myers and down in
East Naples that is not as true. The bears have discovered dumpsters
and the hogs have decided the roots of ornamental plants are yummy.

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On 8/25/15 2:47 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:23:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 12:11 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:40:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh. Well, my guess is that Jews who observe their religion's dietary
laws don't really give a tinker's dam about your religion's rewrite.

Is Jew who doesn't follow the laws of his religion still a Jew?



I have no idea. I suggest you pose that question to rabbis in each of
Judaism's various sects. I do know from growing up when and where I did
that "reform" Jews for the most part do not follow Jewish dietary
regulations. Of course, that was in the days when most Catholics ate
fish on Fridays, and fish was the menu choice in our public junior and
senior high schools on that day of the week. Dietary regs apparently
have "slipped." :)

I remember when the pope said a burger in Friday was not going to
doom you to hell. George Carlin lost a whole string of jokes.

On the other hand, all the schoolkids were grateful for the Jews,
because the public schools closed on the Jewish High Holidays.

Must have been a northern thing. In DC and Maryland the jewish kids
took a day off but the rest of us were in school.
IBM dealt with all of this by giving us 6 "optional holidays" that you
could take any time you liked along with the 6 or 7 nationally
recognized holidays. It was really just an extra few vacation days but
you had a way to say you got your particular holidays off.

It never really mattered that much to me. I ended up working most of
the holidays anyway (no kids for most of my career). I let the people
who found it important, to have their day with the family. I would
just take another day off somewhere and pocket the holiday pay.


Well, back in the day, not only did New Haven have a large Jewish and
Roman Catholic population, probably the majority when combined, but a
very high percentage of the public school teachers were Jewish. So, the
schools likely would have had very few teachers on hand when the Jewish
high holidays came around.

I seem to recall we got Columbus Day off, too. There were more Italian
Catholics than Irish Catholics. :)

The Italians used to put on a several day feast and carnival in
mid-August to mark the Assumption of Mary. It was held a few blocks away
from where we lived, and when I was 12, I got to kiss my first Italian
girl there. She didn't slap me. :)

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:36:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/25/2015 10:18 AM, John H. wrote:


What do they call Jews who've left their faith?


Penniless?


(I know, I know ... not nice and certainly not very "PC" of me. It's a
joke folks)

It is probably accurate tho. There is a lot of networking that goes on
at Temple. One of the salesmen at IBM was a JewCatholic agnostic but
he still went to temple with his devout brother now and then, just to
see his friends. He is the guy who explained the menorah to my
daughter when she thought she might try judaism.
We had one in the living room for the holidays and she had already lit
all of the candles before the first day of Hanukkah.

S&W M&P 15/22
 

On 8/25/15 2:51 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:25:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:42:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 1:23 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:

What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person.


Wrong again, Bilil. I don't believe all hunting is sport hunting.

I would draw that line at "trophy hunts" and I include fishermen in
that.
Fortunately actually killing trophy fish is on the decline, mostly
driven by the captains who make their living looking for these fish
for their customers.
"Mounts" are usually just a fiberglass replica anyway so now they
encourage taking measurements and maybe a picture, then returning the
fish to the water.

I think you could do the same thing for trophy hunters if you could
change the culture a little.

The reality is, that trophy buck is not anything you want to eat
anyway. You are a lot better off shooting "Bambi" for food and let the
buck go around making more Bambis.



Our deer wander through the yard almost daily, but know enough, somehow,
not to eat my wife's hostas until the fall. They do like rose petals,
though. Sometimes I shoot the deer...with a camera.

I wouldn't take a deer either but I have no problem with those who do.
We don't really have that many that come into neighborhoods because
there is plenty of natural habitat around here. It is pretty much the
same with the bears and the hogs. Up closer to Ft Myers and down in
East Naples that is not as true. The bears have discovered dumpsters
and the hogs have decided the roots of ornamental plants are yummy.


I haven't seen any wild hogs or bears around here, but one of the
neighbors down the street has a small pot-bellied pig. Cute little
critter, and smart, too.

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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/25/15 2:51 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:25:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:42:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 1:23 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:

What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person.


Wrong again, Bilil. I don't believe all hunting is sport hunting.

I would draw that line at "trophy hunts" and I include fishermen in
that.
Fortunately actually killing trophy fish is on the decline, mostly
driven by the captains who make their living looking for these fish
for their customers.
"Mounts" are usually just a fiberglass replica anyway so now they
encourage taking measurements and maybe a picture, then returning the
fish to the water.

I think you could do the same thing for trophy hunters if you could
change the culture a little.

The reality is, that trophy buck is not anything you want to eat
anyway. You are a lot better off shooting "Bambi" for food and let the
buck go around making more Bambis.



Our deer wander through the yard almost daily, but know enough, somehow,
not to eat my wife's hostas until the fall. They do like rose petals,
though. Sometimes I shoot the deer...with a camera.

I wouldn't take a deer either but I have no problem with those who do.
We don't really have that many that come into neighborhoods because
there is plenty of natural habitat around here. It is pretty much the
same with the bears and the hogs. Up closer to Ft Myers and down in
East Naples that is not as true. The bears have discovered dumpsters
and the hogs have decided the roots of ornamental plants are yummy.


I haven't seen any wild hogs or bears around here, but one of the
neighbors down the street has a small pot-bellied pig. Cute little critter, and smart, too.

Pot bellies get huge, and crap a lot. We have hogs, but lots of open space
here, so not many hog problems near here. Other places, lots of problems.
South of San Francisco near Crystal Springs Reservoir friend of a friend
shot a 700# hog tearing up his yard. Kids run inside when the groups of
hogs come in the neighborhood.

S&W M&P 15/22
 

wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:25:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:42:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 1:23 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:

What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person.


Wrong again, Bilil. I don't believe all hunting is sport hunting.

I would draw that line at "trophy hunts" and I include fishermen in
that.
Fortunately actually killing trophy fish is on the decline, mostly
driven by the captains who make their living looking for these fish
for their customers.
"Mounts" are usually just a fiberglass replica anyway so now they
encourage taking measurements and maybe a picture, then returning the
fish to the water.

I think you could do the same thing for trophy hunters if you could
change the culture a little.

The reality is, that trophy buck is not anything you want to eat
anyway. You are a lot better off shooting "Bambi" for food and let the
buck go around making more Bambis.



Our deer wander through the yard almost daily, but know enough, somehow,
not to eat my wife's hostas until the fall. They do like rose petals,
though. Sometimes I shoot the deer...with a camera.

I wouldn't take a deer either but I have no problem with those who do.
We don't really have that many that come into neighborhoods because
there is plenty of natural habitat around here. It is pretty much the
same with the bears and the hogs. Up closer to Ft Myers and down in
East Naples that is not as true. The bears have discovered dumpsters
and the hogs have decided the roots of ornamental plants are yummy.

Here, we have deer problems. Eat lots of the local foliage. They love
roses. Local nursery never has to prune their roses. There are about
10,000 deer killed by hunters, about a million killed by cars in Calif.

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On 8/25/15 3:38 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/25/15 2:51 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:25:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:42:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 1:23 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:

What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person.


Wrong again, Bilil. I don't believe all hunting is sport hunting.

I would draw that line at "trophy hunts" and I include fishermen in
that.
Fortunately actually killing trophy fish is on the decline, mostly
driven by the captains who make their living looking for these fish
for their customers.
"Mounts" are usually just a fiberglass replica anyway so now they
encourage taking measurements and maybe a picture, then returning the
fish to the water.

I think you could do the same thing for trophy hunters if you could
change the culture a little.

The reality is, that trophy buck is not anything you want to eat
anyway. You are a lot better off shooting "Bambi" for food and let the
buck go around making more Bambis.



Our deer wander through the yard almost daily, but know enough, somehow,
not to eat my wife's hostas until the fall. They do like rose petals,
though. Sometimes I shoot the deer...with a camera.

I wouldn't take a deer either but I have no problem with those who do.
We don't really have that many that come into neighborhoods because
there is plenty of natural habitat around here. It is pretty much the
same with the bears and the hogs. Up closer to Ft Myers and down in
East Naples that is not as true. The bears have discovered dumpsters
and the hogs have decided the roots of ornamental plants are yummy.


I haven't seen any wild hogs or bears around here, but one of the
neighbors down the street has a small pot-bellied pig. Cute little critter, and smart, too.

Pot bellies get huge, and crap a lot. We have hogs, but lots of open space
here, so not many hog problems near here. Other places, lots of problems.
South of San Francisco near Crystal Springs Reservoir friend of a friend
shot a 700# hog tearing up his yard. Kids run inside when the groups of
hogs come in the neighborhood.


This was a several year old Vietnamese pot-bellied pig, no larger than
an average sized beagle, probably smaller.