Sent by a very conservative friend. Interesting read. Whoever wrote it does *not*
like John McCain!


First a bit of an introduction on the meaning of HERO…

The word hero in today's world is far overused. "Hero" is so much overused it has
diluted the value and real meaning and has cheapened the word for those who actually
deserve the term. For example, we have foot ball heroes, NASCAR heroes, and everyday
police, fire fighters, and even our everyday military folks are called heroes for
just doing their jobs. I too amongst many millions of others was in the military and
I am certainly not a hero for simply serving-I did nothing heroic.

A hero does something truly heroic and above what his job or calling is and many
times that may mean to save a life and at great risk to his life or to sit atop a
burning tank with a machine gun and kill a couple hundred attacking Germans as Audie
Murphy (America's most decorated hero) did in WWII. By applying the word hero to
sports figures and even cancer survivors (I am one of those too) we have turned the
term hero into an everyday word having little real value anymore-we have diluted the
word, its meaning, and its value. We should stop destroying this word, its meaning
and its value and return it and the people who earned the title for real to the
status it once had.

I am a conservative and a Republican, and I do not like anything about John McCain.
He dumped his wife when she was injured in an accident, remarried into serious beer
distribution money. His soft television interview voice belies the way he really is;
mean, nasty, hot tempered, vindictive, a progressive, a back stabber (ask Palin) and
quick to pretend and project he is a nice guy. Look at how he back stabbed and
treated Sarah Palin after HIS engineered massive loss of the presidency-and that loss
was all caused by him alone.

To show his real colors towards our Constitution and the Second Amendment I learned
he even he appeared on television and print ads in Colorado media advocating more gun
control of its citizens during Colorado's consideration of more gun control during
the 2002 election period. Imagine, a Republican, Arizona U.S. senator traveling to
another state to attack their Second Amendment Constitutional rights.

McCain all by himself nearly sank a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier…

McCain, when a Lieutenant Commander in the U.S. Navy was a Navy pilot (they call
themselves aviators). July 29, 1967 while on the deck and in his plane on the carrier
U.S.S. Forrestal he managed to screw up procedures (officially denied and covered up
by him and the Navy and also even promoted on Wikipedia if you care to look-reason to
follow). He did a smart ass punk attention getting trick by doing a "wet start" up of
his jet.

When a pilot wants to be a wise ass or show off, this type of engine start creates a
large startling flame and lots of surprise noise from the rear of a jet engine on
start up-this was no accident. This and the large subsequent electrical surge and
apparent (incorrect and against policy) weapon arming (by the pilot) caused the
launching of a powerful Zuni rocket across the carrier's deck hitting other parked
planes that were packing 1,000 high-explosive pound bombs. The subsequent massive
explosions, fire and destruction went several decks below and nearly sunk this major
82,000 ton U.S. aircraft carrier.

This stunt and aftermath caused the death of 134 sailors and seriously injure (blow
off arms legs, cause blindness and burns to another 161 sailors) and took the ship
off the battle line for extensive repairs. Any other Navy pilot causing this type of
death and destruction the Navy would have raped him and he would probably still be in
the brig. Why not McCain? Well, first with many powerful connections this "little
infraction" was covered up by the Navy (our most politically involved/connected
service by the way).

You see his grandfather was a famous FOUR STAR Navy admiral and his dad was at the
time of the incident was a powerful Navy FOUR STAR admiral and McCain graduated from
the Navy Academy. So the old boy Navy tradition cover his ass network went into high
gear immediately; and make no mistake, it does exist and it did for him.
So when McCain was shot down and captured allegedly he, due to his father's high rank
the Communists were so impressed that McCain was offered up BY THE COMMUNISTS to be
returned to the U.S. to show some type of recognition of his importance as the son of
an active duty very powerful and influential U.S. Navy four star admiral (and he
was). And then the fairy tale continues that McCain himself turned down the early
release while still under the care of a communist doctor for his injuries so he could
remain with his fellow prisoners for years and be tortured-oh sure! And remember,
any information about his first hand refusal to stay a prisoner comes from him
relating it to others.

Let's say it were true. Then that would mean the hardcore Communist enemy fighting an
active war against the U.S. deferred to his "importance and influence" and that of
his dad (according to the story line).

So I ask you…if an enemy thought this much of him and his four star admiral dad,
would not our own U.S. Navy during their "investigation" of the Zuni missile launch
from his parked plane while he was in the cockpit starting it up also NOT do this for
him and sweep this little infraction which could have sunk an aircraft carrier under
the rug? You betcha! Of course the Navy covered up the Forrestal disaster for McCain
and his family and Navy tradition.

BUT, think about this. Since when can any POW tell his Communist captures he does not
want to go or do something-and they then obey him and his desires and requests?
Anyone who believes that is a moron! It is all bull**** later created to advance a
political future for this "heroic" navy pilot and former P.O.W.

But let's pretend it is true. If it were true, probably the Communists wanted him
back on duty so he could blow the hell out of another Navy ship-because they sure did
not have the resources to cause this type of damage to our forces themselves.
After the war and the prisoner exchange McCain was allowed to continue his service
and retired from the (old boy network) Navy as a Captain (a rank just short of
admiral).

There is so much more on McCain but it would take too much to cover. The bottom line
is Trump is correct when he says McCain is NOT a hero. Sure Trump is a huge pain in
the ass, but it does not mean he does not know what he is talking about either. It is
possible McCain did some sort of heroic type effort survival things like living
through torture as did so many others during their capture-but he sure as hell is NOT
a hero. Being a P.O.W. is not being a hero.

Escaping and then leading an attack back on his captures as Army Special Forces Lt.
Colonel (then Lieutenant) James N. (Nick) Rowe did the next day after his escape and
helicopter discovery and rescue all after being held in a tiny cage (and tortured)
and having to live in far worse conditions than Hanoi Hilton for five years in the
jungle of Viet Nam. Rowe, while racked with near death dysentery and weighing just
125 pounds of his original 180, barely able to walk did just that-he insisted on
boarding a chopper to lead an attack against his former keeper's camp deep in enemy
territory before they could move to another location. Now that is pretty damn
heroic-and he got nothing for that. In fact, you probably have never heard of him.

And when McCain makes self-serving remarks in a recent blatantly disingenuous effort
to curry a connection with today's younger voters in response to Trump's mid-July
comments by saying…"TODAY'S military people are better than his generation…"that
remark has him spitting directly in the face of the many hundreds of thousands of
those who served, lived, survived and died in our military during the years 1954 to
1981-McCain's time on duty including his four years in the Navy Academy (the official
headquarters for the good old boy network and its graduates).

Last, true to his behavior pattern of it's always the other guy's fault and he is
just a really sweet guy McCain is working to try to convert and reposition Trump's
public stated opinion of McCain personally to make it look like Trump means what he
said is about all former POWs.

Hey, it is just what McCain does and who he really is!

--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 07:12:28 -0400, John H. wrote:


The 'wet start' portion of this has apparently been debunked.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/09/mccains-plane-crashes/


Sent by a very conservative friend. Interesting read. Whoever wrote it does *not*
like John McCain!


First a bit of an introduction on the meaning of HERO…

The word hero in today's world is far overused. "Hero" is so much overused it has
diluted the value and real meaning and has cheapened the word for those who actually
deserve the term. For example, we have foot ball heroes, NASCAR heroes, and everyday
police, fire fighters, and even our everyday military folks are called heroes for
just doing their jobs. I too amongst many millions of others was in the military and
I am certainly not a hero for simply serving-I did nothing heroic.

A hero does something truly heroic and above what his job or calling is and many
times that may mean to save a life and at great risk to his life or to sit atop a
burning tank with a machine gun and kill a couple hundred attacking Germans as Audie
Murphy (America's most decorated hero) did in WWII. By applying the word hero to
sports figures and even cancer survivors (I am one of those too) we have turned the
term hero into an everyday word having little real value anymore-we have diluted the
word, its meaning, and its value. We should stop destroying this word, its meaning
and its value and return it and the people who earned the title for real to the
status it once had.

I am a conservative and a Republican, and I do not like anything about John McCain.
He dumped his wife when she was injured in an accident, remarried into serious beer
distribution money. His soft television interview voice belies the way he really is;
mean, nasty, hot tempered, vindictive, a progressive, a back stabber (ask Palin) and
quick to pretend and project he is a nice guy. Look at how he back stabbed and
treated Sarah Palin after HIS engineered massive loss of the presidency-and that loss
was all caused by him alone.

To show his real colors towards our Constitution and the Second Amendment I learned
he even he appeared on television and print ads in Colorado media advocating more gun
control of its citizens during Colorado's consideration of more gun control during
the 2002 election period. Imagine, a Republican, Arizona U.S. senator traveling to
another state to attack their Second Amendment Constitutional rights.

McCain all by himself nearly sank a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier…

McCain, when a Lieutenant Commander in the U.S. Navy was a Navy pilot (they call
themselves aviators). July 29, 1967 while on the deck and in his plane on the carrier
U.S.S. Forrestal he managed to screw up procedures (officially denied and covered up
by him and the Navy and also even promoted on Wikipedia if you care to look-reason to
follow). He did a smart ass punk attention getting trick by doing a "wet start" up of
his jet.

When a pilot wants to be a wise ass or show off, this type of engine start creates a
large startling flame and lots of surprise noise from the rear of a jet engine on
start up-this was no accident. This and the large subsequent electrical surge and
apparent (incorrect and against policy) weapon arming (by the pilot) caused the
launching of a powerful Zuni rocket across the carrier's deck hitting other parked
planes that were packing 1,000 high-explosive pound bombs. The subsequent massive
explosions, fire and destruction went several decks below and nearly sunk this major
82,000 ton U.S. aircraft carrier.

This stunt and aftermath caused the death of 134 sailors and seriously injure (blow
off arms legs, cause blindness and burns to another 161 sailors) and took the ship
off the battle line for extensive repairs. Any other Navy pilot causing this type of
death and destruction the Navy would have raped him and he would probably still be in
the brig. Why not McCain? Well, first with many powerful connections this "little
infraction" was covered up by the Navy (our most politically involved/connected
service by the way).

You see his grandfather was a famous FOUR STAR Navy admiral and his dad was at the
time of the incident was a powerful Navy FOUR STAR admiral and McCain graduated from
the Navy Academy. So the old boy Navy tradition cover his ass network went into high
gear immediately; and make no mistake, it does exist and it did for him.
So when McCain was shot down and captured allegedly he, due to his father's high rank
the Communists were so impressed that McCain was offered up BY THE COMMUNISTS to be
returned to the U.S. to show some type of recognition of his importance as the son of
an active duty very powerful and influential U.S. Navy four star admiral (and he
was). And then the fairy tale continues that McCain himself turned down the early
release while still under the care of a communist doctor for his injuries so he could
remain with his fellow prisoners for years and be tortured-oh sure! And remember,
any information about his first hand refusal to stay a prisoner comes from him
relating it to others.

Let's say it were true. Then that would mean the hardcore Communist enemy fighting an
active war against the U.S. deferred to his "importance and influence" and that of
his dad (according to the story line).

So I ask you…if an enemy thought this much of him and his four star admiral dad,
would not our own U.S. Navy during their "investigation" of the Zuni missile launch
from his parked plane while he was in the cockpit starting it up also NOT do this for
him and sweep this little infraction which could have sunk an aircraft carrier under
the rug? You betcha! Of course the Navy covered up the Forrestal disaster for McCain
and his family and Navy tradition.

BUT, think about this. Since when can any POW tell his Communist captures he does not
want to go or do something-and they then obey him and his desires and requests?
Anyone who believes that is a moron! It is all bull**** later created to advance a
political future for this "heroic" navy pilot and former P.O.W.

But let's pretend it is true. If it were true, probably the Communists wanted him
back on duty so he could blow the hell out of another Navy ship-because they sure did
not have the resources to cause this type of damage to our forces themselves.
After the war and the prisoner exchange McCain was allowed to continue his service
and retired from the (old boy network) Navy as a Captain (a rank just short of
admiral).

There is so much more on McCain but it would take too much to cover. The bottom line
is Trump is correct when he says McCain is NOT a hero. Sure Trump is a huge pain in
the ass, but it does not mean he does not know what he is talking about either. It is
possible McCain did some sort of heroic type effort survival things like living
through torture as did so many others during their capture-but he sure as hell is NOT
a hero. Being a P.O.W. is not being a hero.

Escaping and then leading an attack back on his captures as Army Special Forces Lt.
Colonel (then Lieutenant) James N. (Nick) Rowe did the next day after his escape and
helicopter discovery and rescue all after being held in a tiny cage (and tortured)
and having to live in far worse conditions than Hanoi Hilton for five years in the
jungle of Viet Nam. Rowe, while racked with near death dysentery and weighing just
125 pounds of his original 180, barely able to walk did just that-he insisted on
boarding a chopper to lead an attack against his former keeper's camp deep in enemy
territory before they could move to another location. Now that is pretty damn
heroic-and he got nothing for that. In fact, you probably have never heard of him.

And when McCain makes self-serving remarks in a recent blatantly disingenuous effort
to curry a connection with today's younger voters in response to Trump's mid-July
comments by saying…"TODAY'S military people are better than his generation…"that
remark has him spitting directly in the face of the many hundreds of thousands of
those who served, lived, survived and died in our military during the years 1954 to
1981-McCain's time on duty including his four years in the Navy Academy (the official
headquarters for the good old boy network and its graduates).

Last, true to his behavior pattern of it's always the other guy's fault and he is
just a really sweet guy McCain is working to try to convert and reposition Trump's
public stated opinion of McCain personally to make it look like Trump means what he
said is about all former POWs.

Hey, it is just what McCain does and who he really is!
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

On 7/26/15 7:12 AM, John H. wrote:
Sent by a very conservative friend. Interesting read. Whoever wrote it does *not*
like John McCain!

Crikey, what a tasteless, mindless screed but no surprise that it
emanated from a "friend" of yours. You righties really are trashy fans
of swiftboating, eh?

I'm no fan of McCain's, and I liked him even less when he picked that
mindless breeder as his 2008 running mate, but you boys just don't have
any concept of decency.

And, of course, this is an easy way for you to back into your
understated support for your new hero, the racist Donald Trump.

On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:21:43 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 7/26/15 7:12 AM, John H. wrote:
Sent by a very conservative friend. Interesting read. Whoever wrote it does *not*
like John McCain!

Crikey, what a tasteless, mindless screed but no surprise that it
emanated from a "friend" of yours. You righties really are trashy fans
of swiftboating, eh?

I'm no fan of McCain's, and I liked him even less when he picked that
mindless breeder as his 2008 running mate, but you boys just don't have
any concept of decency.

And, of course, this is an easy way for you to back into your
understated support for your new hero, the racist Donald Trump.

I think I made a correction, which you may have missed.

I think I've made my feelings about Trump clear also.

Only in your twisted little mind is he a racist. He *is* an
anti-illegal-immigrationist however. But so am I.

So go play with your pud some more. Maybe momma will let you come up and enjoy the
rest of her house. Have you fed your owls today? Did you paint that investment
property (Maryland Red) of yours yet?

Does being a liar make you proud of yourself?
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

On 7/26/15 8:40 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:21:43 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 7/26/15 7:12 AM, John H. wrote:
Sent by a very conservative friend. Interesting read. Whoever wrote it does *not*
like John McCain!

Crikey, what a tasteless, mindless screed but no surprise that it
emanated from a "friend" of yours. You righties really are trashy fans
of swiftboating, eh?

I'm no fan of McCain's, and I liked him even less when he picked that
mindless breeder as his 2008 running mate, but you boys just don't have
any concept of decency.

And, of course, this is an easy way for you to back into your
understated support for your new hero, the racist Donald Trump.

I think I made a correction, which you may have missed.

I think I've made my feelings about Trump clear also.

Only in your twisted little mind is he a racist. He *is* an
anti-illegal-immigrationist however. But so am I.

So go play with your pud some more. Maybe momma will let you come up and enjoy the
rest of her house. Have you fed your owls today? Did you paint that investment
property (Maryland Red) of yours yet?

Does being a liar make you proud of yourself?



John Herring, Racist & Trumpster. Perfect.

On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:44:46 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 7/26/15 8:40 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:21:43 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 7/26/15 7:12 AM, John H. wrote:
Sent by a very conservative friend. Interesting read. Whoever wrote it does *not*
like John McCain!

Crikey, what a tasteless, mindless screed but no surprise that it
emanated from a "friend" of yours. You righties really are trashy fans
of swiftboating, eh?

I'm no fan of McCain's, and I liked him even less when he picked that
mindless breeder as his 2008 running mate, but you boys just don't have
any concept of decency.

And, of course, this is an easy way for you to back into your
understated support for your new hero, the racist Donald Trump.

I think I made a correction, which you may have missed.

I think I've made my feelings about Trump clear also.

Only in your twisted little mind is he a racist. He *is* an
anti-illegal-immigrationist however. But so am I.

So go play with your pud some more. Maybe momma will let you come up and enjoy the
rest of her house. Have you fed your owls today? Did you paint that investment
property (Maryland Red) of yours yet?

Does being a liar make you proud of yourself?



John Herring, Racist & Trumpster. Perfect.

You forgot to answer the questions, Krause. Too hard? Again?
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.