Wayne, what is the recommended test line for Wahoo fishing?

On Sun, 17 May 2015 12:07:35 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/17/15 11:25 AM, True North wrote:

The activity level in here just reinforces my observations a day or so ago. Most of the regulars have little interest in boats or boating. When was the last time you saw any boating content from John Herring, FlaJim, Dan Kruger, Scott Ingersoll...and we won't even mention the newsgroup pervert from St Thomas, Ontario. Most are here to instigate, agitate and irritate. Tim and I are somewhat similar with long off seasons and a short boating season.
Seems like we only got rid of winter so I'm just now getting the urge to take the winter shelter down and prepare my boat for it's first launch this year.


Hey, Don…

Got back an hour or so ago from a nice trip to Connecticut, mainly to my
old “stomping grounds” in Milford and Branford and points in between.

It was great to see and stay again with old friends from my grammar,
junior high and high school days. It's hard to believe I'm still
"hanging out" with friends I've known since the third grade at Davis
Street Elementary School. Sadly, a couple of the old gang members
died over the winter. What was that line from the old Star Trek
movie..."Time is the fire in which we burn..." It sure is.

Went fishing a couple of times out of Woodmont, a little beach town
between Milford and West Haven. One of my oldest and dearest friends
retired to a beach house there and keeps a 14’ dory for boating and
fishing. Long Island Sound is still damned cold, but we managed to
rustle up a few guys to carry the boat from his garage to the water’s
edge and attach his Honda four stroke outboard. Fifteen minutes later,
we were catching porgies and what we used to call “snapper blues” (small
bluefish) on live sandworms off one of the rock outcroppings, just like
we did 50+ years ago.

Another buddy has a Bertram 25’ (or maybe a 24’?) he spent a couple of
years restoring, including removing the I/O drive, rebuilding the
transom, attaching a platform at the stern, and repowering with a 250 hp
Yamaha four stroke. The Bertram was pretty much a hulk when he bought
it. He had some “professional help” along the way. Anyway, he keeps it
in Milford Harbor, and we borrowed it for a day trip east on the Sound
to the Housatonic River, which we “explored” for a while.

Oh yeah…food. Went to New Haven a couple of nights for “the best pizza
in the world,” and to a couple of shore joints for lobsters and a
variety of seafood a couple of other nights. Drove over to Providence
with a bunch of buddies one night for a look-see and to eat dinner at
Hemenway’s, which is still a terrific restaurant.

Hang in there...Spring *will* reach you. Maybe.



Sounds like a spectacular time!
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On Mon, 18 May 2015 05:27:23 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

What do you bait Wahoo with, live or chunks.? Or does it matter?

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My understanding is artificial lures on a wire leader, trolled at a
fairly fast speed (15 kts +).


No.
There are as many speeds to troll wahoo as there are wahoo fisherman.
From the article you posted:

?I?ve caught a lot of wahoo at 9 or 10 knots, and I?ve got a much better
chance of catching dolphin, tuna and billfish,? says Capt. Billy Black

"Capt. Ray Rosher of Miss Britt Charters in Miami falls between Hunt and
Black, trolling artificial lures, not bait, at 8 to 10 knots."

"Capt. Scott McCune finds wahoo on wrecks, oil rigs, weed lines and
debris by trolling ballyhoo at 5 to 8 knots"

?Troll the spoon on a planer about 50 feet down, around 8 or 9 knots,?
McElveen says.

?Troll that around 5 or 6 knots behind a No. 2 planer or about a 16-
ounce trolling lead,? he says.

On Mon, 18 May 2015 11:26:50 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

There are as many speeds to troll wahoo as there are wahoo fisherman.

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You're right about that. The guys I've actually talked with like fast
however. I suppose one advantage is that you're unlikely to
accidently catch anything else.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2015 19:49:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I looked up a Wahoo. They "look" related to a swordfish.

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Fast powerful fish and very good eating. There are guys who fish the
far eastern Bahamas just for Wahoo.

Supposedly fastest fish in the ocean. Up to 70 mph. Years ago I fished on
the Qualifier 105 out of San Diego. 32' wide, 105' long. A wahoo
following a jig came out of the water and cleared the boat. Deck hand
brailing bait had just leaned down to get more bait and fish just cleared
his back. Not a trip I was on, but friends were.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2015 18:47:42 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2015 20:51:09 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Saturday, May 16, 2015 at 7:36:18 PM UTC-7, Wayne. B wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2015 19:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Correct about the techno-changes in guidance/navigation systems in the
past few years. Paying wireless int'l calls couldn't have been cheap.

Speaking of island hopping, are you getting in on some good fishing on your cruise?

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I fished briefly on the last half of our Gulf Stream crossing but
nothing to show for it except a stolen lure and badly bitten up mono
leader. Must have been something with sharp teeth. Conventional
wisdom is that Mahi mahi will not bite on wire leaders so not much
choice unless you're after the really big stuff.

We've been in relatively shallow water ever since and conditions
offshore have been fairly rough.

Gnawing on a leader in such fashion is an indicator of Shark or Barracuda?

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More likely a shark in my opinion. I've caught barracuda on mono
leaders a number of times but once saw a shark grab a live bait fish
on mono with barely a twitch of the pole.

Maybe a wahoo.

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Possibly, there are lots of Wahoo around here, mostly on the eastern
side of the Bahamas however. I have no personal experience catching
Wahoo but it's my understanding that you have to troll for them at
about 15 kts, too fast for us. We'd hear the big sportfishing boats
talking about them on the radio when we were way down in the out
islands. It sounded like they were losing as many as they caught.

They are fast, but they are caught on 9 knot trolls and cranking a Wahoo
Bomb fast.

True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
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Forgot to add:

"We had one really stormy rainy day, so eight of us did exactly what we
did when we were kids at the beach: we had an all-day, multi-table
Scrabble marathon. "


Thank goodness you're back....for the sake of the Moppetts. They were starting to show signs of the 'shakes' and other withdrawal symptoms.
glad you had a great time.
BTW. Dickson insists that you send him a picture of your 'junk' if you're going to leave for more than a day or two. He gets serious separation anxiety. ;-)
Bet your wife would like to see this one, too!

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2015 18:47:42 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2015 20:51:09 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Saturday, May 16, 2015 at 7:36:18 PM UTC-7, Wayne. B wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2015 19:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Correct about the techno-changes in guidance/navigation systems in the
past few years. Paying wireless int'l calls couldn't have been cheap.

Speaking of island hopping, are you getting in on some good fishing on your cruise?
===

I fished briefly on the last half of our Gulf Stream crossing but
nothing to show for it except a stolen lure and badly bitten up mono
leader. Must have been something with sharp teeth. Conventional
wisdom is that Mahi mahi will not bite on wire leaders so not much
choice unless you're after the really big stuff.

We've been in relatively shallow water ever since and conditions
offshore have been fairly rough.
Gnawing on a leader in such fashion is an indicator of Shark or Barracuda?
===

More likely a shark in my opinion. I've caught barracuda on mono
leaders a number of times but once saw a shark grab a live bait fish
on mono with barely a twitch of the pole.
Maybe a wahoo.
===

Possibly, there are lots of Wahoo around here, mostly on the eastern
side of the Bahamas however. I have no personal experience catching
Wahoo but it's my understanding that you have to troll for them at
about 15 kts, too fast for us. We'd hear the big sportfishing boats
talking about them on the radio when we were way down in the out
islands. It sounded like they were losing as many as they caught.


We catch them at under 10 kts all the time. Keep it closer to 5 and you
can get Mahi and Wahoo from the same bait.

Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2015 19:49:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I looked up a Wahoo. They "look" related to a swordfish.
===

Fast powerful fish and very good eating. There are guys who fish the
far eastern Bahamas just for Wahoo.
Supposedly fastest fish in the ocean. Up to 70 mph. Years ago I fished on
the Qualifier 105 out of San Diego. 32' wide, 105' long. A wahoo
following a jig came out of the water and cleared the boat. Deck hand
brailing bait had just leaned down to get more bait and fish just cleared
his back. Not a trip I was on, but friends were.


I always heard sailfish and marlin were the fastest but never in the 70
MPH range!

Tim wrote:
Wayne, what is the recommended test line for Wahoo fishing?


25# minimum.