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On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:11:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/17/2015 6:45 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 7:08:10 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/16/2015 6:31 PM, wrote: On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 12:25:26 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote: The big difference between simulators/real airplanes and RC airplanes - in sims or real planes, the nose of the plane is in front of you. With an RC plane, at least part of the time, the nose is pointed at you. That means the left and right controls are reversed. This, I believe, is what causes the most problems, at least for me. Another related difference is that pilots in a real plane has a seat of the pants, first person view. Not so with RC. Something that helps newbies to RC is that when the airplane is flying towards you and the controls are reversed, your can turn your body so the transmitter is faced the same way as the plane, but look back over your shoulder at the plane. That way the stick moves to the right, the plane moves to the right. It's a crutch, but with some more stick time it'll come naturally. I don't think there's much at all in common comparing RC flying and flying a real airplane. Speed scale is totally different. Turns and maneuvers are not anything close to being realistic to flying an airplane. I see it as a fun hobby for many but to compare it to actually flying an airplane it isn't even close. If you think about it, it's very similar. The same rules apply, the aircraft reacts the same way. RC planes can do things that real planes can't, but they also suffer from the fact that they don't fly quite the same way. Said another way, the air molecules are still the same size, while the wings and control surfaces of RC planes are far smaller. That's why truly scale RC planes don't tend to fly very well. Good RC pilots can fly very realistically. I saw a jet done up in Fed-Ex colors being flown slowly and with coordinated turns. It looked very real, except for the size, although it was still large with about a 10 foot wingspan. But while you may have not meant it, your attitude is common with "real" pilots. They think of RC planes as toys. And they crash them when they first try to fly them, thinking that if they can fly the real thing, they can fly the toy. They cannot. ![]() Real pilots hope to walk away from a crash. RC pilots walk towards it! The airplanes do not react the same way. Lots more mass and leverage differences in a real airplane. The more I think about it the more the differences become obvious. When starting your take off roll, how do you "steer" the RC? Or do you? With the landing gear and rudder. When landing, how do you correct for crosswinds? Dipped wing or slip? Rudder, ailerons and elevator, as necessary. What's your pre-flight like. What's a "run up". Magneto check limits? Battery Check - Airplane and transmitter Structure check - no loose parts or cracks Landing gear check - everything tight and operable Ensure ESCV switch is 'OFF' Ensure throttle off - cut switch Transmitter on Insert battery, ensure security Level aircraft Turn ESC switch on Initialize S.A.F.E. Perform range check Perform controls check Taxi aircraft - trim as needed Take off What's your landing pattern procedures? Notify other fliers of landing Line up with runway markers Throttle off Raise nose just before touchdown Taxi to safe area As I don't have flaps or retracts, those do not come into play. How do you stop the plane when you land? With the throttle off, the airplane will not roll very far. If necessary, I can *steer* the plane and taxi it to my feet. Grass has a tendency to stop these things pretty quickly. How do you control direction of the plane when taxiing? Landing gear/rudder Those are but a few very basic issues of "real" flying that I don't think the average RC pilot deals with. You would be wrong, but that's OK. I have a lot of respect for the RC hobbyist who builds his own airplane from a kit or from scratch, assembling all the frame and wing sections, flaps, ailerons, tail, etc. Then he covers the airframe with paper or cloth and seals it. He wires all the control motors and tests. Might take him the better part of a year to do at a cost of several thousand dollars. Then he gets the satisfaction of it's first successful flight. To me, that's a true RC hobbyist. Well seek...I'll never meet your expectations. On the other hand, I have a lot of respect for a pilot that can take his plane off a pitching aircraft carrier deck and land on same. To me, that's a true airplane pilot. (Now doesn't that sound pretty friggin' ridiculous? Do you think I give a **** whether or not I meet your 'true RC hobbyist' expectations? I did all my building balsa models years ago...don't need to do so now.) Ordering one from Amazon, ready to fly, for a couple of hundred bucks and a pair of aviator sun glasses just isn't the same thing to me. I'm sure it isn't. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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