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![]() Kathy Alizadeh is the Assistant Prosecuting Attorney who handled the evidence presented to the Wilson Grand Jury. At the beginning of the deliberations she handed out copies of the Missouri statue that covers the conditions under which a police officer can use deadly force for the juror's to consider. (The statute is very favorable to the police and to Wilson.) Turns out the statute she handed out for the juror's benefit was written in 1979 and had been declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1985. She didn't bother correcting this "error" until near the end of the deliberations when she handed out the "correct" statute. She allowed the jurors to listen to all the testimony and evidence using the 1979 statute as a guide for how police can respond. Here is what she told the jurors: “Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to affect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out. What we have discovered and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the state of Missouri does not comply with the case law. This doesn’t sound probably unfamiliar with you that the law is codified in the written form in the books and they’re called statutes, but courts interpret those statutes. And so the statute for the use of force to affect an arrest in the state of Missouri does not comply with Missouri supreme, I’m sorry, United States supreme court cases. So the statue I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don’t necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn’t comply with the law.” She never explained to the jurors what the differences were in the two documents. A juror asked if a Federal Court finding overrules the original State statute. Alizadeh's response to the juror's question: “As far as you need to know, just don’t worry about that.” |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:19:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Kathy Alizadeh is the Assistant Prosecuting Attorney who handled the evidence presented to the Wilson Grand Jury. At the beginning of the deliberations she handed out copies of the Missouri statue that covers the conditions under which a police officer can use deadly force for the juror's to consider. (The statute is very favorable to the police and to Wilson.) Turns out the statute she handed out for the juror's benefit was written in 1979 and had been declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1985. She didn't bother correcting this "error" until near the end of the deliberations when she handed out the "correct" statute. She allowed the jurors to listen to all the testimony and evidence using the 1979 statute as a guide for how police can respond. Here is what she told the jurors: “Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to affect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out. What we have discovered and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the state of Missouri does not comply with the case law. This doesn’t sound probably unfamiliar with you that the law is codified in the written form in the books and they’re called statutes, but courts interpret those statutes. And so the statute for the use of force to affect an arrest in the state of Missouri does not comply with Missouri supreme, I’m sorry, United States supreme court cases. So the statue I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don’t necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn’t comply with the law.” She never explained to the jurors what the differences were in the two documents. A juror asked if a Federal Court finding overrules the original State statute. Alizadeh's response to the juror's question: “As far as you need to know, just don’t worry about that.” Southern justice. This was a screw job from the start. |
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On 12/2/2014 12:14 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:19:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Kathy Alizadeh is the Assistant Prosecuting Attorney who handled the evidence presented to the Wilson Grand Jury. At the beginning of the deliberations she handed out copies of the Missouri statue that covers the conditions under which a police officer can use deadly force for the juror's to consider. (The statute is very favorable to the police and to Wilson.) Turns out the statute she handed out for the juror's benefit was written in 1979 and had been declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1985. She didn't bother correcting this "error" until near the end of the deliberations when she handed out the "correct" statute. She allowed the jurors to listen to all the testimony and evidence using the 1979 statute as a guide for how police can respond. Here is what she told the jurors: “Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to affect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out. What we have discovered and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the state of Missouri does not comply with the case law. This doesn’t sound probably unfamiliar with you that the law is codified in the written form in the books and they’re called statutes, but courts interpret those statutes. And so the statute for the use of force to affect an arrest in the state of Missouri does not comply with Missouri supreme, I’m sorry, United States supreme court cases. So the statue I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don’t necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn’t comply with the law.” She never explained to the jurors what the differences were in the two documents. A juror asked if a Federal Court finding overrules the original State statute. Alizadeh's response to the juror's question: “As far as you need to know, just don’t worry about that.” Southern justice. This was a screw job from the start. Bull****! The kid was raised by thugs, to be a thug.. He got away with it so long cause he was so big. Not big enough to fight a cop though... Parents fault for raising him stupid.... |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 12:18:37 -0500, KC wrote:
On 12/2/2014 12:14 PM, jps wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:19:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Kathy Alizadeh is the Assistant Prosecuting Attorney who handled the evidence presented to the Wilson Grand Jury. At the beginning of the deliberations she handed out copies of the Missouri statue that covers the conditions under which a police officer can use deadly force for the juror's to consider. (The statute is very favorable to the police and to Wilson.) Turns out the statute she handed out for the juror's benefit was written in 1979 and had been declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1985. She didn't bother correcting this "error" until near the end of the deliberations when she handed out the "correct" statute. She allowed the jurors to listen to all the testimony and evidence using the 1979 statute as a guide for how police can respond. Here is what she told the jurors: “Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to affect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out. What we have discovered and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the state of Missouri does not comply with the case law. This doesn’t sound probably unfamiliar with you that the law is codified in the written form in the books and they’re called statutes, but courts interpret those statutes. And so the statute for the use of force to affect an arrest in the state of Missouri does not comply with Missouri supreme, I’m sorry, United States supreme court cases. So the statue I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don’t necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn’t comply with the law.” She never explained to the jurors what the differences were in the two documents. A juror asked if a Federal Court finding overrules the original State statute. Alizadeh's response to the juror's question: “As far as you need to know, just don’t worry about that.” Southern justice. This was a screw job from the start. Bull****! The kid was raised by thugs, to be a thug.. He got away with it so long cause he was so big. Not big enough to fight a cop though... Parents fault for raising him stupid.... I just saw the kid's picture on the tube last night. He's just a little sweetheart. In fact, in all the pictures I've seen on NBC and other major media, he appears to be the sweetest little kid imagineable. How could you even think he might have a mean streak in him? If he really did commit a robbery, don't you think the networks would be showing that video every now and then? Of course they would! |
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jps wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:19:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Kathy Alizadeh is the Assistant Prosecuting Attorney who handled the evidence presented to the Wilson Grand Jury. At the beginning of the deliberations she handed out copies of the Missouri statue that covers the conditions under which a police officer can use deadly force for the juror's to consider. (The statute is very favorable to the police and to Wilson.) Turns out the statute she handed out for the juror's benefit was written in 1979 and had been declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1985. She didn't bother correcting this "error" until near the end of the deliberations when she handed out the "correct" statute. She allowed the jurors to listen to all the testimony and evidence using the 1979 statute as a guide for how police can respond. Here is what she told the jurors: “Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to affect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out. What we have discovered and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the state of Missouri does not comply with the case law. This doesn’t sound probably unfamiliar with you that the law is codified in the written form in the books and they’re called statutes, but courts interpret those statutes. And so the statute for the use of force to affect an arrest in the state of Missouri does not comply with Missouri supreme, I’m sorry, United States supreme court cases. So the statue I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don’t necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn’t comply with the law.” She never explained to the jurors what the differences were in the two documents. A juror asked if a Federal Court finding overrules the original State statute. Alizadeh's response to the juror's question: “As far as you need to know, just don’t worry about that.” Southern justice. This was a screw job from the start. BS. You saw video of the "nice boy" using his bulk to strong arm a shopkeeper shortly before. I doubt it was Mr. Brown's first robbery. And even if it was, it proves he thought bulk got him what he desired. And witnesses, black ones, stated Mr. brown attacked the cop. Interesting, when in Santa Monica for Thanksgiving, a Black Guy at church complained that Wilson should not be hassling a couple kids for walking down the yellow line. They hassled us white kids for doing stupid stuff like that also. |
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On 12/2/2014 12:51 PM, Califbill wrote:
jps wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:19:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Kathy Alizadeh is the Assistant Prosecuting Attorney who handled the evidence presented to the Wilson Grand Jury. At the beginning of the deliberations she handed out copies of the Missouri statue that covers the conditions under which a police officer can use deadly force for the juror's to consider. (The statute is very favorable to the police and to Wilson.) Turns out the statute she handed out for the juror's benefit was written in 1979 and had been declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1985. She didn't bother correcting this "error" until near the end of the deliberations when she handed out the "correct" statute. She allowed the jurors to listen to all the testimony and evidence using the 1979 statute as a guide for how police can respond. Here is what she told the jurors: “Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to affect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out. What we have discovered and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the state of Missouri does not comply with the case law. This doesn’t sound probably unfamiliar with you that the law is codified in the written form in the books and they’re called statutes, but courts interpret those statutes. And so the statute for the use of force to affect an arrest in the state of Missouri does not comply with Missouri supreme, I’m sorry, United States supreme court cases. So the statue I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don’t necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn’t comply with the law.” She never explained to the jurors what the differences were in the two documents. A juror asked if a Federal Court finding overrules the original State statute. Alizadeh's response to the juror's question: “As far as you need to know, just don’t worry about that.” Southern justice. This was a screw job from the start. BS. You saw video of the "nice boy" using his bulk to strong arm a shopkeeper shortly before. I doubt it was Mr. Brown's first robbery. And even if it was, it proves he thought bulk got him what he desired. And witnesses, black ones, stated Mr. brown attacked the cop. Interesting, when in Santa Monica for Thanksgiving, a Black Guy at church complained that Wilson should not be hassling a couple kids for walking down the yellow line. They hassled us white kids for doing stupid stuff like that also. Now you are getting to the heart of the controversy. How many of you "white kids" ended up getting shot for doing stupid stuff? |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:17:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/2/2014 12:51 PM, Califbill wrote: jps wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:19:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Kathy Alizadeh is the Assistant Prosecuting Attorney who handled the evidence presented to the Wilson Grand Jury. At the beginning of the deliberations she handed out copies of the Missouri statue that covers the conditions under which a police officer can use deadly force for the juror's to consider. (The statute is very favorable to the police and to Wilson.) Turns out the statute she handed out for the juror's benefit was written in 1979 and had been declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1985. She didn't bother correcting this "error" until near the end of the deliberations when she handed out the "correct" statute. She allowed the jurors to listen to all the testimony and evidence using the 1979 statute as a guide for how police can respond. Here is what she told the jurors: ?Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to affect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out. What we have discovered and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the state of Missouri does not comply with the case law. This doesn?t sound probably unfamiliar with you that the law is codified in the written form in the books and they?re called statutes, but courts interpret those statutes. And so the statute for the use of force to affect an arrest in the state of Missouri does not comply with Missouri supreme, I?m sorry, United States supreme court cases. So the statue I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don?t necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn?t comply with the law.? She never explained to the jurors what the differences were in the two documents. A juror asked if a Federal Court finding overrules the original State statute. Alizadeh's response to the juror's question: ?As far as you need to know, just don?t worry about that.? Southern justice. This was a screw job from the start. BS. You saw video of the "nice boy" using his bulk to strong arm a shopkeeper shortly before. I doubt it was Mr. Brown's first robbery. And even if it was, it proves he thought bulk got him what he desired. And witnesses, black ones, stated Mr. brown attacked the cop. Interesting, when in Santa Monica for Thanksgiving, a Black Guy at church complained that Wilson should not be hassling a couple kids for walking down the yellow line. They hassled us white kids for doing stupid stuff like that also. Now you are getting to the heart of the controversy. How many of you "white kids" ended up getting shot for doing stupid stuff? I think the 'stupid stuff' referred to walking down the yellow line. He made the point that white kids got hassled for that also. It is also true that there have been white kids shot for very little or no reason. They just don't make the news, even if shot for no reason by a black cop. But of course you know that. It just doesn't support the agenda you, Toad, and jps like. -- "The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument with a liberal." ....Peter Brimelow (Author) (Thanks, Luddite!) |
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On 12/2/2014 1:40 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:17:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/2/2014 12:51 PM, Califbill wrote: jps wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:19:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Kathy Alizadeh is the Assistant Prosecuting Attorney who handled the evidence presented to the Wilson Grand Jury. At the beginning of the deliberations she handed out copies of the Missouri statue that covers the conditions under which a police officer can use deadly force for the juror's to consider. (The statute is very favorable to the police and to Wilson.) Turns out the statute she handed out for the juror's benefit was written in 1979 and had been declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1985. She didn't bother correcting this "error" until near the end of the deliberations when she handed out the "correct" statute. She allowed the jurors to listen to all the testimony and evidence using the 1979 statute as a guide for how police can respond. Here is what she told the jurors: ?Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to affect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out. What we have discovered and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the state of Missouri does not comply with the case law. This doesn?t sound probably unfamiliar with you that the law is codified in the written form in the books and they?re called statutes, but courts interpret those statutes. And so the statute for the use of force to affect an arrest in the state of Missouri does not comply with Missouri supreme, I?m sorry, United States supreme court cases. So the statue I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don?t necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn?t comply with the law.? She never explained to the jurors what the differences were in the two documents. A juror asked if a Federal Court finding overrules the original State statute. Alizadeh's response to the juror's question: ?As far as you need to know, just don?t worry about that.? Southern justice. This was a screw job from the start. BS. You saw video of the "nice boy" using his bulk to strong arm a shopkeeper shortly before. I doubt it was Mr. Brown's first robbery. And even if it was, it proves he thought bulk got him what he desired. And witnesses, black ones, stated Mr. brown attacked the cop. Interesting, when in Santa Monica for Thanksgiving, a Black Guy at church complained that Wilson should not be hassling a couple kids for walking down the yellow line. They hassled us white kids for doing stupid stuff like that also. Now you are getting to the heart of the controversy. How many of you "white kids" ended up getting shot for doing stupid stuff? I think the 'stupid stuff' referred to walking down the yellow line. He made the point that white kids got hassled for that also. It is also true that there have been white kids shot for very little or no reason. They just don't make the news, even if shot for no reason by a black cop. But of course you know that. It just doesn't support the agenda you, Toad, and jps like. What "agenda" is that, Clara? |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:17:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/2/2014 12:51 PM, Califbill wrote: jps wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:19:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Kathy Alizadeh is the Assistant Prosecuting Attorney who handled the evidence presented to the Wilson Grand Jury. At the beginning of the deliberations she handed out copies of the Missouri statue that covers the conditions under which a police officer can use deadly force for the juror's to consider. (The statute is very favorable to the police and to Wilson.) Turns out the statute she handed out for the juror's benefit was written in 1979 and had been declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1985. She didn't bother correcting this "error" until near the end of the deliberations when she handed out the "correct" statute. She allowed the jurors to listen to all the testimony and evidence using the 1979 statute as a guide for how police can respond. Here is what she told the jurors: ?Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to affect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out. What we have discovered and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the state of Missouri does not comply with the case law. This doesn?t sound probably unfamiliar with you that the law is codified in the written form in the books and they?re called statutes, but courts interpret those statutes. And so the statute for the use of force to affect an arrest in the state of Missouri does not comply with Missouri supreme, I?m sorry, United States supreme court cases. So the statue I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don?t necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn?t comply with the law.? She never explained to the jurors what the differences were in the two documents. A juror asked if a Federal Court finding overrules the original State statute. Alizadeh's response to the juror's question: ?As far as you need to know, just don?t worry about that.? Southern justice. This was a screw job from the start. BS. You saw video of the "nice boy" using his bulk to strong arm a shopkeeper shortly before. I doubt it was Mr. Brown's first robbery. And even if it was, it proves he thought bulk got him what he desired. And witnesses, black ones, stated Mr. brown attacked the cop. Interesting, when in Santa Monica for Thanksgiving, a Black Guy at church complained that Wilson should not be hassling a couple kids for walking down the yellow line. They hassled us white kids for doing stupid stuff like that also. Now you are getting to the heart of the controversy. How many of you "white kids" ended up getting shot for doing stupid stuff? Further, there is video showing Brown paying for the cigars at the counter and the owners of the market have confirmed the same. They didn't call the police and insist there was no robbery. The cop was a complete dick. The kid lost his cool, the cop ****ed up the altercation in a big way. Didn't call for backup, jumped out of his car and began shooting even though Brown was fleeing. This guy is going to get sued, as is the town. The prosecutor is a whole other kettle of fish. That asshole deserves to be disbarred. |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 10:59:47 -0800, jps wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:17:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/2/2014 12:51 PM, Califbill wrote: jps wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:19:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Kathy Alizadeh is the Assistant Prosecuting Attorney who handled the evidence presented to the Wilson Grand Jury. At the beginning of the deliberations she handed out copies of the Missouri statue that covers the conditions under which a police officer can use deadly force for the juror's to consider. (The statute is very favorable to the police and to Wilson.) Turns out the statute she handed out for the juror's benefit was written in 1979 and had been declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1985. She didn't bother correcting this "error" until near the end of the deliberations when she handed out the "correct" statute. She allowed the jurors to listen to all the testimony and evidence using the 1979 statute as a guide for how police can respond. Here is what she told the jurors: ?Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to affect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out. What we have discovered and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the state of Missouri does not comply with the case law. This doesn?t sound probably unfamiliar with you that the law is codified in the written form in the books and they?re called statutes, but courts interpret those statutes. And so the statute for the use of force to affect an arrest in the state of Missouri does not comply with Missouri supreme, I?m sorry, United States supreme court cases. So the statue I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don?t necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn?t comply with the law.? She never explained to the jurors what the differences were in the two documents. A juror asked if a Federal Court finding overrules the original State statute. Alizadeh's response to the juror's question: ?As far as you need to know, just don?t worry about that.? Southern justice. This was a screw job from the start. BS. You saw video of the "nice boy" using his bulk to strong arm a shopkeeper shortly before. I doubt it was Mr. Brown's first robbery. And even if it was, it proves he thought bulk got him what he desired. And witnesses, black ones, stated Mr. brown attacked the cop. Interesting, when in Santa Monica for Thanksgiving, a Black Guy at church complained that Wilson should not be hassling a couple kids for walking down the yellow line. They hassled us white kids for doing stupid stuff like that also. Now you are getting to the heart of the controversy. How many of you "white kids" ended up getting shot for doing stupid stuff? Further, there is video showing Brown paying for the cigars at the counter and the owners of the market have confirmed the same. They didn't call the police and insist there was no robbery. The cop was a complete dick. The kid lost his cool, the cop ****ed up the altercation in a big way. Didn't call for backup, jumped out of his car and began shooting even though Brown was fleeing. This guy is going to get sued, as is the town. The prosecutor is a whole other kettle of fish. That asshole deserves to be disbarred. Sounds like you've got it all figured, jps. Maybe you could get a job working for Judge Judy. You ever thought of that? -- "The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument with a liberal." ....Peter Brimelow (Author) (Thanks, Luddite!) |
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