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Harry's recent "incident"
On 11/6/2014 3:39 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 11/6/2014 3:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2014 3:01 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:57:59 -0500, Harrold wrote: On 11/6/2014 11:53 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/6/14 11:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2014 10:48 AM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 06:53:33 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/6/14 12:19 AM, wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 12:33:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/5/14 11:57 AM, wrote: That is what Zimmerman said Gee, Greg, I used to think you were one of the few bright right wingers in this sea of conservative stupidity, but now I am realizing you are just as dimwitted as flajim, psychoscotty, herring, and a few others in that crowd of intellectually disableds. Are you really saying the only way you could deal with this was to get in a fist fight? How would you have dealt with it if this guy was not such an easy guy to beat up? I realize I don't have the frontline combat experience of you and some of the other right-wingers here, so perhaps I should've waited for the guy to really beat the crap out of that woman. I was not intending to trade punches with the fellow. I simply walked over to where they were and asked him to stop. He responded by taking a swing at me and he missed. My reflexes took over and I hit him as hard as i could. End of fight. I don't know whether he was easy to beat up or not... I landed a Lucky punch. My point and the same thing I said about Zimmerman is you should have never got close enough to him to allow him to take a swing at you. It is basic self defense 101. If you were going to try to talk this guy down, you can do it from 10 feet away, 20 is better. If your intent was to get in a fight from the beginning, then you should just go hit the guy. In the end you are not on much firmer ground is you just provoked the fight Perhaps you would've stood your ground and shot him. You seem trigger-happy. All I ever said about this is you could have been shot, other than to point out that if your "lucky punch" turned out to be fatal, you have as good a chance of going to jail as if you shot him. I know a guy who did 7 years in Maryland for a "lucky punch" in what most people would say was a more justifiable situation (attempting to remove an unwelcome person from his home) I hope you get better soon. Your depth of knowledge is beyond amazing Greg. Now you are an expert on the proper manner in which to come to the aid of a woman and child being physically abused by a guy. "Excuse me sir, (from 20 feet away) not to interrupt, but would you mind refraining from slapping them around? I have an iPhone here and I know how to use it." Not being a military trained combat warrior like Greg, Herring, FlaGrim, et al, I'm not afraid to play my hand. As I have long suspected, they are heavily armed...pussies. Hows your "hand" feel today. I'll bey you wished you'd used your vocabulary to assault the guy instead of your mighty fist. ;-) I am sure the love birds had kissed and made up before Harry even saw his first doctor. Of all the things I might be tempted to intervene in, a domestic dispute would be the last one and I certainly would not get in a fight over it. I didn't always feel that way but after being neck deep in a bunch of them, a lot of times involving the same couples, I am not really that interested in kicking that tar baby. I lived in a white trash and black folks apartment building (Dennis Grove in PG county) for 4 years and I have seen plenty. I can understand your feelings although you have absolutely no idea how the couple (assuming they were a couple) resolved or didn't resolve the issue in Harry's encounter. Thinking about it though, it might have been better if Harry had asked the woman if she was in danger or needed assistance before addressing the guy. Then again, I wasn't there and all you can do is speculate on what the fluid situation was. This is all a fragment of Harry,s figmintation. sic' Shhhhh, it's funny watching them invent the story as they go along... :) |
Harry's recent "incident"
On 11/6/14 3:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2014 3:36 PM, Harrold wrote: On 11/6/2014 3:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2014 2:55 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:49:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2014 12:34 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:53:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: Not being a military trained combat warrior like Greg, Herring, FlaGrim, et al, I'm not afraid to play my hand. This is not military combat it is urban warfare and I have had more than my share of getting in the middle of wife/girlfriend spats with their abusive partner. It is usually an unrewarding encounter because they seldom change anything. I have been in physical encounters but simply talking it out works out better for everyone involved. As I have long suspected, they are heavily armed...pussies. You seem to be more heavily armed than anyone else here. Greg, no offense, but you seem to think you are the only person on the planet who has any experience with violence, police, lawyers, lawsuits or domestic spats. I have had more than my share of experience but I am older and wiser now. I am also not so insecure that I can't admit it. Why is the idea of NOT starting a fist fight being seen as wrong here? You keep saying we are not in the 1800s but you support vigilantes. The discussion was about the action Harry took when coming upon a guy physically abusing a woman and a child. For the 5th or 6th time ... according to Harry's account he did *not* start a fist fight. He approached the guy and asked him to stop. The guy took a swing at Harry. Harry swung back. I don't call that "starting" a fist fight. He did strike the first blow on the boney little guy. sigh The only reason your buddy is here is to crack his petty 7th grade insults. -- “There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” - Norman Mailer |
Harry's recent "incident"
On 11/6/14 3:46 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2014 3:43 PM, Harrold wrote: On 11/6/2014 3:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2014 3:36 PM, Harrold wrote: On 11/6/2014 3:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2014 2:55 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:49:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2014 12:34 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:53:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: Not being a military trained combat warrior like Greg, Herring, FlaGrim, et al, I'm not afraid to play my hand. This is not military combat it is urban warfare and I have had more than my share of getting in the middle of wife/girlfriend spats with their abusive partner. It is usually an unrewarding encounter because they seldom change anything. I have been in physical encounters but simply talking it out works out better for everyone involved. As I have long suspected, they are heavily armed...pussies. You seem to be more heavily armed than anyone else here. Greg, no offense, but you seem to think you are the only person on the planet who has any experience with violence, police, lawyers, lawsuits or domestic spats. I have had more than my share of experience but I am older and wiser now. I am also not so insecure that I can't admit it. Why is the idea of NOT starting a fist fight being seen as wrong here? You keep saying we are not in the 1800s but you support vigilantes. The discussion was about the action Harry took when coming upon a guy physically abusing a woman and a child. For the 5th or 6th time ... according to Harry's account he did *not* start a fist fight. He approached the guy and asked him to stop. The guy took a swing at Harry. Harry swung back. I don't call that "starting" a fist fight. He did strike the first blow on the boney little guy. sigh In fact, the boney little guy never even landed a punch. Come on. Are you telling me that if someone takes a swing at you and misses, you'd just stand there like a doofus until he connected? It's called self defense. You are trying to reason with someone no brighter than the Scotties. -- “There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” - Norman Mailer |
Harry's recent "incident"
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/6/2014 2:55 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:49:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2014 12:34 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:53:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: Not being a military trained combat warrior like Greg, Herring, FlaGrim, et al, I'm not afraid to play my hand. This is not military combat it is urban warfare and I have had more than my share of getting in the middle of wife/girlfriend spats with their abusive partner. It is usually an unrewarding encounter because they seldom change anything. I have been in physical encounters but simply talking it out works out better for everyone involved. As I have long suspected, they are heavily armed...pussies. You seem to be more heavily armed than anyone else here. Greg, no offense, but you seem to think you are the only person on the planet who has any experience with violence, police, lawyers, lawsuits or domestic spats. I have had more than my share of experience but I am older and wiser now. I am also not so insecure that I can't admit it. Why is the idea of NOT starting a fist fight being seen as wrong here? You keep saying we are not in the 1800s but you support vigilantes. The discussion was about the action Harry took when coming upon a guy physically abusing a woman and a child. For the 5th or 6th time ... according to Harry's account he did *not* start a fist fight. He approached the guy and asked him to stop. The guy took a swing at Harry. Harry swung back. I don't call that "starting" a fist fight. I call it idiocy to be close enough to be hit, when verbally addressing the issue. |
Harry's recent "incident"
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/6/14 2:50 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:44:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2014 12:27 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:39:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2014 10:48 AM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 06:53:33 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/6/14 12:19 AM, wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 12:33:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/5/14 11:57 AM, wrote: That is what Zimmerman said Gee, Greg, I used to think you were one of the few bright right wingers in this sea of conservative stupidity, but now I am realizing you are just as dimwitted as flajim, psychoscotty, herring, and a few others in that crowd of intellectually disableds. Are you really saying the only way you could deal with this was to get in a fist fight? How would you have dealt with it if this guy was not such an easy guy to beat up? I realize I don't have the frontline combat experience of you and some of the other right-wingers here, so perhaps I should've waited for the guy to really beat the crap out of that woman. I was not intending to trade punches with the fellow. I simply walked over to where they were and asked him to stop. He responded by taking a swing at me and he missed. My reflexes took over and I hit him as hard as i could. End of fight. I don't know whether he was easy to beat up or not... I landed a Lucky punch. My point and the same thing I said about Zimmerman is you should have never got close enough to him to allow him to take a swing at you. It is basic self defense 101. If you were going to try to talk this guy down, you can do it from 10 feet away, 20 is better. If your intent was to get in a fight from the beginning, then you should just go hit the guy. In the end you are not on much firmer ground is you just provoked the fight Perhaps you would've stood your ground and shot him. You seem trigger-happy. All I ever said about this is you could have been shot, other than to point out that if your "lucky punch" turned out to be fatal, you have as good a chance of going to jail as if you shot him. I know a guy who did 7 years in Maryland for a "lucky punch" in what most people would say was a more justifiable situation (attempting to remove an unwelcome person from his home) I hope you get better soon. Your depth of knowledge is beyond amazing Greg. Now you are an expert on the proper manner in which to come to the aid of a woman and child being physically abused by a guy. "Excuse me sir, (from 20 feet away) not to interrupt, but would you mind refraining from slapping them around? I have an iPhone here and I know how to use it." I have been involved with these things more times than I like to think about and I know a lot of cops. Women tend to stand by their man, no matter what a weasel he is. As for the self defense issue. I have taken the course several times and they all emphasize, distance is your friend. If you do not want to end up in a fist fight or a scramble on the ground, keep some distance. If you want to fight, just give them your best shot right away and be prepared to face the consequences. Just don't be surprised if the woman you "rescued" testifies against you. She is still going to go home and sleep with the weasel about 90% of the time. (just look at all of those football players and the women they beat the **** out of) This "Don Quixote" stuff is great in the movies but don't count on Dulcinea taking your side when it is all over. Yup. We've become a nation governed by political correctness and self concerns. Let the ones being battered fend for themselves. No leave it to the police. Being a vigilante is not legal or wise these days. Ask Zimmerman. Blame it on the lawyers. Wow. A right wing libertarian who says leave it to the police. I can envision you and your gun nutzi 2A buddies here standing on the sidewalk with your hands in your pockets watching some thug beat up a woman or a child. Brave men, all of you. You seem to be the gun nutz here! Bragging about all the guns you buy and sell, and build. |
Harry's recent "incident"
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/6/2014 12:27 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:39:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2014 10:48 AM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 06:53:33 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/6/14 12:19 AM, wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 12:33:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/5/14 11:57 AM, wrote: That is what Zimmerman said Gee, Greg, I used to think you were one of the few bright right wingers in this sea of conservative stupidity, but now I am realizing you are just as dimwitted as flajim, psychoscotty, herring, and a few others in that crowd of intellectually disableds. Are you really saying the only way you could deal with this was to get in a fist fight? How would you have dealt with it if this guy was not such an easy guy to beat up? I realize I don't have the frontline combat experience of you and some of the other right-wingers here, so perhaps I should've waited for the guy to really beat the crap out of that woman. I was not intending to trade punches with the fellow. I simply walked over to where they were and asked him to stop. He responded by taking a swing at me and he missed. My reflexes took over and I hit him as hard as i could. End of fight. I don't know whether he was easy to beat up or not... I landed a Lucky punch. My point and the same thing I said about Zimmerman is you should have never got close enough to him to allow him to take a swing at you. It is basic self defense 101. If you were going to try to talk this guy down, you can do it from 10 feet away, 20 is better. If your intent was to get in a fight from the beginning, then you should just go hit the guy. In the end you are not on much firmer ground is you just provoked the fight Perhaps you would've stood your ground and shot him. You seem trigger-happy. All I ever said about this is you could have been shot, other than to point out that if your "lucky punch" turned out to be fatal, you have as good a chance of going to jail as if you shot him. I know a guy who did 7 years in Maryland for a "lucky punch" in what most people would say was a more justifiable situation (attempting to remove an unwelcome person from his home) I hope you get better soon. Your depth of knowledge is beyond amazing Greg. Now you are an expert on the proper manner in which to come to the aid of a woman and child being physically abused by a guy. "Excuse me sir, (from 20 feet away) not to interrupt, but would you mind refraining from slapping them around? I have an iPhone here and I know how to use it." I have been involved with these things more times than I like to think about and I know a lot of cops. Women tend to stand by their man, no matter what a weasel he is. As for the self defense issue. I have taken the course several times and they all emphasize, distance is your friend. If you do not want to end up in a fist fight or a scramble on the ground, keep some distance. If you want to fight, just give them your best shot right away and be prepared to face the consequences. Just don't be surprised if the woman you "rescued" testifies against you. She is still going to go home and sleep with the weasel about 90% of the time. (just look at all of those football players and the women they beat the **** out of) This "Don Quixote" stuff is great in the movies but don't count on Dulcinea taking your side when it is all over. Yup. We've become a nation governed by political correctness and self concerns. Let the ones being battered fend for themselves. Two of my cousins were cops. They hated domestic violence calls, as part of the time the assaulted one, would turn on the cops. One of their coworkers was killed responding to a domestic violence case. And these days, people like Harry go to jail for assault, as the wife refuses to testify. And may even be likely someone who likes to beat up the girlfriend, is armed. Call the cops and start filming. Only intervene if they are being killed. Maybe I am a wimp but I will be a live wimp and not in jail. |
Harry's recent "incident"
Harrold wrote:
On 11/6/2014 3:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2014 3:36 PM, Harrold wrote: On 11/6/2014 3:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2014 2:55 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:49:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2014 12:34 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:53:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: Not being a military trained combat warrior like Greg, Herring, FlaGrim, et al, I'm not afraid to play my hand. This is not military combat it is urban warfare and I have had more than my share of getting in the middle of wife/girlfriend spats with their abusive partner. It is usually an unrewarding encounter because they seldom change anything. I have been in physical encounters but simply talking it out works out better for everyone involved. As I have long suspected, they are heavily armed...pussies. You seem to be more heavily armed than anyone else here. Greg, no offense, but you seem to think you are the only person on the planet who has any experience with violence, police, lawyers, lawsuits or domestic spats. I have had more than my share of experience but I am older and wiser now. I am also not so insecure that I can't admit it. Why is the idea of NOT starting a fist fight being seen as wrong here? You keep saying we are not in the 1800s but you support vigilantes. The discussion was about the action Harry took when coming upon a guy physically abusing a woman and a child. For the 5th or 6th time ... according to Harry's account he did *not* start a fist fight. He approached the guy and asked him to stop. The guy took a swing at Harry. Harry swung back. I don't call that "starting" a fist fight. He did strike the first blow on the boney little guy. sigh In fact, the boney little guy never even landed a punch. Well you know he did not break it doing any meaningful work. |
Harry's recent "incident"
On 11/6/2014 4:29 PM, Califbill wrote:
Harrold wrote: On 11/6/2014 3:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2014 3:36 PM, Harrold wrote: On 11/6/2014 3:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2014 2:55 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:49:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2014 12:34 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:53:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: Not being a military trained combat warrior like Greg, Herring, FlaGrim, et al, I'm not afraid to play my hand. This is not military combat it is urban warfare and I have had more than my share of getting in the middle of wife/girlfriend spats with their abusive partner. It is usually an unrewarding encounter because they seldom change anything. I have been in physical encounters but simply talking it out works out better for everyone involved. As I have long suspected, they are heavily armed...pussies. You seem to be more heavily armed than anyone else here. Greg, no offense, but you seem to think you are the only person on the planet who has any experience with violence, police, lawyers, lawsuits or domestic spats. I have had more than my share of experience but I am older and wiser now. I am also not so insecure that I can't admit it. Why is the idea of NOT starting a fist fight being seen as wrong here? You keep saying we are not in the 1800s but you support vigilantes. The discussion was about the action Harry took when coming upon a guy physically abusing a woman and a child. For the 5th or 6th time ... according to Harry's account he did *not* start a fist fight. He approached the guy and asked him to stop. The guy took a swing at Harry. Harry swung back. I don't call that "starting" a fist fight. He did strike the first blow on the boney little guy. sigh In fact, the boney little guy never even landed a punch. Well you know he did not break it doing any meaningful work. Well you know he did not break it defending a poor woman and child. |
Harry's recent "incident"
On 11/6/2014 4:26 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2014 2:55 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:49:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2014 12:34 PM, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:53:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: Not being a military trained combat warrior like Greg, Herring, FlaGrim, et al, I'm not afraid to play my hand. This is not military combat it is urban warfare and I have had more than my share of getting in the middle of wife/girlfriend spats with their abusive partner. It is usually an unrewarding encounter because they seldom change anything. I have been in physical encounters but simply talking it out works out better for everyone involved. As I have long suspected, they are heavily armed...pussies. You seem to be more heavily armed than anyone else here. Greg, no offense, but you seem to think you are the only person on the planet who has any experience with violence, police, lawyers, lawsuits or domestic spats. I have had more than my share of experience but I am older and wiser now. I am also not so insecure that I can't admit it. Why is the idea of NOT starting a fist fight being seen as wrong here? You keep saying we are not in the 1800s but you support vigilantes. The discussion was about the action Harry took when coming upon a guy physically abusing a woman and a child. For the 5th or 6th time ... according to Harry's account he did *not* start a fist fight. He approached the guy and asked him to stop. The guy took a swing at Harry. Harry swung back. I don't call that "starting" a fist fight. I call it idiocy to be close enough to be hit, when verbally addressing the issue. ....unless you have to come in.. and in that case I consider it idiocy to come in talking at all but I am smaller than you guys so you probably don't see it the way I do. The only time I would go in again is if overwhelming force was immediately necessary in which case hopefully you wouldn't even see me coming till I tackled you and we were rolling across the parking lot giving the girl enough time to get away... wouldn't bother with talking, or even a fist fight... Just gotta' change the aggressors "game plan" for a few seconds, then reassess.... |
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