Harry's recent "incident"
 

On 11/7/14 12:18 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 11:50:52 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/7/14 11:47 AM, wrote:
On 7 Nov 2014 11:05:54 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:
On 7 Nov 2014 02:42:11 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:

Why don't you give us enough information to find the police report and
we can all decide.
Extra credit if your name is in it as a witness.

Don't read for comprehension? The woman didn't want to call the police. She
left with her kid. The guy left. I left. I am not aware of a report being
filed. See my first post in this thread.

OK so you saw a crime that justified the use of force but it was not
worth reporting.
Something is not right here.
Spousal abuse is a crime against the state. These women would never
get any help if it wasn't.. All you did was assure she gets a little
extra slapping around when they get home.

Wow. A lecture on civic duty from a gun nutzi too much of a pussy to come
to the aid of a damsel in distress.

Coming to the aid of this woman would have been to call the cops.
You accomplished nothing

I am really starting to believe you fell in the shower or just limp
wristed tout .45 LC


Really? I stopped a guy who was slapping around a woman. That's
something. You would have pee'd down your pants leg, or maybe your long
scraggly beard and hairdo would have scared him off.

Bull****.
It is really starting to sound like you never did any of this.


Awww...the heavily armed right wing patrol of pussies is...upset. Next,
you boys will be exchanging secret emails so you get all your juvenile
assaults coordinated.


--
“There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the
economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” -
Norman Mailer

Harry's recent "incident"
 

On 11/7/14 12:19 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 11:50:52 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/7/14 11:47 AM, wrote:
On 7 Nov 2014 11:05:54 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:
On 7 Nov 2014 02:42:11 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:

Why don't you give us enough information to find the police report and
we can all decide.
Extra credit if your name is in it as a witness.

Don't read for comprehension? The woman didn't want to call the police. She
left with her kid. The guy left. I left. I am not aware of a report being
filed. See my first post in this thread.

OK so you saw a crime that justified the use of force but it was not
worth reporting.
Something is not right here.
Spousal abuse is a crime against the state. These women would never
get any help if it wasn't.. All you did was assure she gets a little
extra slapping around when they get home.

Wow. A lecture on civic duty from a gun nutzi too much of a pussy to come
to the aid of a damsel in distress.

Coming to the aid of this woman would have been to call the cops.
You accomplished nothing

I am really starting to believe you fell in the shower or just limp
wristed tout .45 LC


Really? I stopped a guy who was slapping around a woman. That's
something. You would have pee'd down your pants leg, or maybe your long
scraggly beard and hairdo would have scared him off.

Seriously now, all joking aside...how did that experience compare with
shooting the owls down by the creek in your back yard or the trips
around Cape Horn?


Do the world and your relatives a favor, JohnnyMop...go have a gun
accident.

--
“There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the
economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” -
Norman Mailer

Harry's recent "incident"
 

Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 05:21:07 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, November 7, 2014 8:05:26 AM UTC-5, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 7 Nov 2014 02:42:11 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:

Why don't you give us enough information to find the police report and
we can all decide.
Extra credit if your name is in it as a witness.

Don't read for comprehension? The woman didn't want to call the police. She
left with her kid. The guy left. I left. I am not aware of a report being
filed. See my first post in this thread.

OK so you saw a crime that justified the use of force but it was not
worth reporting.
Something is not right here.
Spousal abuse is a crime against the state. These women would never
get any help if it wasn't.. All you did was assure she gets a little
extra slapping around when they get home.

I think the who story from Harry is bull****.

I believe that Harry fell down and broke his wrist to to break his fall.
He is just trying to cover his clumsiness.

Most people who break bones while hitting someone break bones in their
hands, below the wrist. When you break your wrist it is usually done
while attempting to break your fall.

That's what I said a couple of days ago. A fall down the basement
stairs with a limp wrist.

...or a limp wristed shot with his latest 28mm pistol.

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/up...er-314x400.jpg

Scratch the face hair and strong jawline and that might be ol' pudge
face himself!

What handgun is that?

Harry's recent "incident"
 

F.O.A.D. wrote:
wrote:
On 7 Nov 2014 02:42:11 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:

Why don't you give us enough information to find the police report and
we can all decide.
Extra credit if your name is in it as a witness.

Don't read for comprehension? The woman didn't want to call the police. She
left with her kid. The guy left. I left. I am not aware of a report being
filed. See my first post in this thread.

OK so you saw a crime that justified the use of force but it was not
worth reporting.
Something is not right here.
Spousal abuse is a crime against the state. These women would never
get any help if it wasn't.. All you did was assure she gets a little
extra slapping around when they get home.

Wow. A lecture on civic duty from a gun nutzi too much of a pussy to come
to the aid of a damsel in distress.

Nazi brought up. Harry is losing.

Harry's recent "incident"
 

On 11/7/14 12:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
F.O.A.D. wrote:
wrote:
On 7 Nov 2014 02:42:11 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:

Why don't you give us enough information to find the police report and
we can all decide.
Extra credit if your name is in it as a witness.

Don't read for comprehension? The woman didn't want to call the police. She
left with her kid. The guy left. I left. I am not aware of a report being
filed. See my first post in this thread.

OK so you saw a crime that justified the use of force but it was not
worth reporting.
Something is not right here.
Spousal abuse is a crime against the state. These women would never
get any help if it wasn't.. All you did was assure she gets a little
extra slapping around when they get home.

Wow. A lecture on civic duty from a gun nutzi too much of a pussy to come
to the aid of a damsel in distress.

Nazi brought up. Harry is losing.

If the foo ****s...
Go back to sleep, Bilious. Your little brain needs rest.

--
“There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the
economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.� -
Norman Mailer

Harry's recent "incident"
 

On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 11:41:50 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 05:21:07 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, November 7, 2014 8:05:26 AM UTC-5, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 7 Nov 2014 02:42:11 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:

Why don't you give us enough information to find the police report and
we can all decide.
Extra credit if your name is in it as a witness.

Don't read for comprehension? The woman didn't want to call the police. She
left with her kid. The guy left. I left. I am not aware of a report being
filed. See my first post in this thread.

OK so you saw a crime that justified the use of force but it was not
worth reporting.
Something is not right here.
Spousal abuse is a crime against the state. These women would never
get any help if it wasn't.. All you did was assure she gets a little
extra slapping around when they get home.

I think the who story from Harry is bull****.

I believe that Harry fell down and broke his wrist to to break his fall.
He is just trying to cover his clumsiness.

Most people who break bones while hitting someone break bones in their
hands, below the wrist. When you break your wrist it is usually done
while attempting to break your fall.

That's what I said a couple of days ago. A fall down the basement
stairs with a limp wrist.

...or a limp wristed shot with his latest 28mm pistol.

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/up...er-314x400.jpg

Scratch the face hair and strong jawline and that might be ol' pudge
face himself!

What handgun is that?

The last one in this list:
http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-huge-p...l-firearms.php

1. Pfeifer Zeliska 28mm Revolver

The biggest, most worthless manifestation of an inferiority complex
ever created by one man. Originally manufactured under the name
“Remington Model 1859,” this copy of the formerly U.S.-made revolver
was built by Ryszard Tobys and measures 4-foot-(1.26 m) long. To give
some basis for comparison, the 28mm projectile is 8mm wider than the
U.S. military’s fabled “20mm Cannon,” a weapon used primarily for
destroying tanks, sinking boats, or shooting down heavily armored
airplanes. While entirely impractical and, one would guess, impossible
to use as an even mildly effective tool for any purpose other than
felling trees, the 28mm revolver has made its mark as truly being the
world’s largest pistol. And simultaneously the world’s most comical
waste of lead.

Harry's recent "incident"
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/7/14 12:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
F.O.A.D. wrote:
wrote:
On 7 Nov 2014 02:42:11 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:

Why don't you give us enough information to find the police report and
we can all decide.
Extra credit if your name is in it as a witness.

Don't read for comprehension? The woman didn't want to call the police. She
left with her kid. The guy left. I left. I am not aware of a report being
filed. See my first post in this thread.

OK so you saw a crime that justified the use of force but it was not
worth reporting.
Something is not right here.
Spousal abuse is a crime against the state. These women would never
get any help if it wasn't.. All you did was assure she gets a little
extra slapping around when they get home.

Wow. A lecture on civic duty from a gun nutzi too much of a pussy to come
to the aid of a damsel in distress.

Nazi brought up. Harry is losing.

If the foo ****s...
Go back to sleep, Bilious. Your little brain needs rest.


Better slow down your drug consumption.

Harry's recent "incident"
 

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 7:15:41 PM UTC-8, Wayne. B wrote:
Harry recently described an incident where he ended up being injured
in the course of protecting someone else from violence. Momentarily
suspending any possible disbelief in the facts as stated, a number of
troubling questions are raised in my mind.

Could the situation have been better handled without resorting to
physical violence? Let's assume that Harry was armed with a legal
concealed carry hand gun. Could he have legally pulled the gun and
ordered the alleged perpatrator to cease and desist? In the Florida
concealed carry course that I attended we were taught to never pull
your weapon unless you intend to use it. Otherwise you could possibly
be charged with brandishing and threatening. You are also
specifically taught to never fire a warning shot, and to never try and
effect an arrest. A person who fired a warning shot in Florida is
still in jail for that crime even though he had been threatened and
had no priors.

Another possible strategy is to order the person to stop, relying on
your physical presence and force of personality to carry the day.
Harry apparently tried to do that and was assaulted in return. What
to do next? Assault them back and risk escalation and/or injury?
Invoke self defense and shoot? Both are problematic.

So what's a person to do in Harry's situation? Tough call I think.
For discussion purposes let's leave personalities and political
leanings out of this. And yes, I know that will be difficult.

Krause boasts of his cell phone use. He should have taken a video of this supposed *incident* to be used against the perpetrator as evidence on a court of law, thus invoking a justice more worthy than a mere punch in the jaw.

However, here he proceeds to construct an uncanny tale of valour to proves his heroism and chivalry.

Actually, he needed not to bring the subject to mind. We all know he is inflicted with a limp-wrist anyway.

Harry's recent "incident"
 

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:20:34 AM UTC-8, Wayne. B wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:39:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Your depth of knowledge is beyond amazing Greg. Now you are an expert
on the proper manner in which to come to the aid of a woman and child
being physically abused by a guy.

"Excuse me sir, (from 20 feet away) not to interrupt, but would you mind
refraining from slapping them around? I have an iPhone here and I know
how to use it."

===

Whistle Time out, unnecessary roughness, 15 yard penalty and loss
of down.

All kidding aside I think there are some interesting and valid
discussion points here that should be encouraged, not discouraged.

No need to emulate Harry just because he got his wrist out of joint.

Good call. But shall we not limit ourselves to discussing only his wrist?

Krause has been out of joint, or shall we say 'Out of THE joint" for years.

Harry's recent "incident"
 

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 3:13:55 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2014 2:55 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:49:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/6/2014 12:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:53:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Not being a military trained combat warrior like Greg, Herring, FlaGrim,
et al, I'm not afraid to play my hand.

This is not military combat it is urban warfare and I have had more
than my share of getting in the middle of wife/girlfriend spats with
their abusive partner. It is usually an unrewarding encounter because
they seldom change anything. I have been in physical encounters but
simply talking it out works out better for everyone involved.


As I have long suspected, they
are heavily armed...pussies.

You seem to be more heavily armed than anyone else here.




Greg, no offense, but you seem to think you are the only person on the
planet who has any experience with violence, police, lawyers, lawsuits
or domestic spats.


I have had more than my share of experience but I am older and wiser
now. I am also not so insecure that I can't admit it.

Why is the idea of NOT starting a fist fight being seen as wrong here?
You keep saying we are not in the 1800s but you support vigilantes.



The discussion was about the action Harry took when coming upon a guy
physically abusing a woman and a child.

For the 5th or 6th time ... according to Harry's account he did *not*
start a fist fight. He approached the guy and asked him to stop. The
guy took a swing at Harry. Harry swung back.

I don't call that "starting" a fist fight.

But you are harrys new toy........