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KC wrote:
On 10/9/2014 1:45 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:48:09 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

KC wrote:

The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree.
And $60K is not that much these days.


I would be happy with it..

So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary
these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker
about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below
what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation.

My wife makes $68k as a maintenance director at a country club and she
is shopping for a construction project manager job in the $75-100 k
range
She already turned one down because it was too far away (35 miles)

Not bad for a girl in SW Florida with a high school diploma.

Not bad at all. But she has to be good to get where she is. Not a lot of
young HS diploma people making big money these days. Neither are those
with basket weaving Liberal Arts degrees. Spend $150k getting an English
degree and Masters so you can teach school at $48k a year? Maybe should
have got a science degree and start at $75k.


Wow, so fourty years after graduation someone making 68 is "not bad at
all"... but 6+ plus less than ten years out of hs is.... oh forget it.. lol

Your 10 years out is near a top plateau. Other than inflation, there will
not be much increase in wages.

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On 10/9/14 3:56 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


I can see you're proud of your ability to set up a filter in an Apple.
I'm also glad you can satisfy your immense curiosity by checking all
the data you check.



D'oh. It's not an "Apple" filter, moron. I don't use an "Apple"
newsgroup reader/editor, nor am I aware of the existence of one.
I check the filters from time to time to make sure they are working
properly. Several of "the filtered" try to bust through with minor
changes in their handles or email addresses, and I only notice those by
checking the filter logs.

Now, load up your handguns and go shoot yourself or someone else, Mr.
Hobbyist.


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On 10/9/14 3:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 10/9/2014 1:45 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:48:09 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

KC wrote:

The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree.
And $60K is not that much these days.


I would be happy with it..

So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary
these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker
about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below
what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation.

My wife makes $68k as a maintenance director at a country club and she
is shopping for a construction project manager job in the $75-100 k
range
She already turned one down because it was too far away (35 miles)

Not bad for a girl in SW Florida with a high school diploma.

Not bad at all. But she has to be good to get where she is. Not a lot of
young HS diploma people making big money these days. Neither are those
with basket weaving Liberal Arts degrees. Spend $150k getting an English
degree and Masters so you can teach school at $48k a year? Maybe should
have got a science degree and start at $75k.


Wow, so fourty years after graduation someone making 68 is "not bad at
all"... but 6+ plus less than ten years out of hs is.... oh forget it.. lol

Your 10 years out is near a top plateau. Other than inflation, there will
not be much increase in wages.



One of my wife's buddies, a psychiatric social worker with an M.S.
degree, works in a group medical practice and nets before taxes about
$65 for each 45-minute patient session. That's net before taxes but
after her share of office overhead. I don't know what the bite is for
overhead. She sees six to seven patients a day, and sometimes works
Saturdays to accommodate patients who cannot make it it during the week.
That's about $2000 a week before taxes, and is decent earnings for a
private practice therapist working 50 miles south of the D.C. metro area.

I think I read somewhere that the military bases here are paying
substantially more on average for top therapists who see uniformed
personnel and their families under the Tri-Care system. One of the other
advantages of working in the Tri-Care system is that you don't have to
spend hours every day dealing with the morons at the health insurance
companies.

Not bad pay for liberal arts grads performing a much needed social
service.



--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.�
Sarah Palin

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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/9/14 3:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 10/9/2014 1:45 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:48:09 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

KC wrote:

The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree.
And $60K is not that much these days.


I would be happy with it..

So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary
these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker
about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below
what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation.

My wife makes $68k as a maintenance director at a country club and she
is shopping for a construction project manager job in the $75-100 k
range
She already turned one down because it was too far away (35 miles)

Not bad for a girl in SW Florida with a high school diploma.

Not bad at all. But she has to be good to get where she is. Not a lot of
young HS diploma people making big money these days. Neither are those
with basket weaving Liberal Arts degrees. Spend $150k getting an English
degree and Masters so you can teach school at $48k a year? Maybe should
have got a science degree and start at $75k.


Wow, so fourty years after graduation someone making 68 is "not bad at
all"... but 6+ plus less than ten years out of hs is.... oh forget it.. lol

Your 10 years out is near a top plateau. Other than inflation, there will
not be much increase in wages.



One of my wife's buddies, a psychiatric social worker with an M.S.
degree, works in a group medical practice and nets before taxes about $65
for each 45-minute patient session. That's net before taxes but after her
share of office overhead. I don't know what the bite is for overhead. She
sees six to seven patients a day, and sometimes works Saturdays to
accommodate patients who cannot make it it during the week. That's about
$2000 a week before taxes, and is decent earnings for a private practice
therapist working 50 miles south of the D.C. metro area.

I think I read somewhere that the military bases here are paying
substantially more on average for top therapists who see uniformed
personnel and their families under the Tri-Care system. One of the other
advantages of working in the Tri-Care system is that you don't have to
spend hours every day dealing with the morons at the health insurance companies.

Not bad pay for liberal arts grads performing a much needed social service.




How much did that social worker spend to get their masters. How much net
after taxes and expenses? $2000 a week is only $100k a year if you take 2
weeks vacation. Also minus holidays, etc. probably in the $75k before
taxes. Nice, but not great for a high cost of living area like DC.
Gregg's wife at $68K in Florida is doing much better.

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On 10/9/14 5:50 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/9/14 3:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 10/9/2014 1:45 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:48:09 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

KC wrote:

The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree.
And $60K is not that much these days.


I would be happy with it..

So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary
these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker
about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below
what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation.

My wife makes $68k as a maintenance director at a country club and she
is shopping for a construction project manager job in the $75-100 k
range
She already turned one down because it was too far away (35 miles)

Not bad for a girl in SW Florida with a high school diploma.

Not bad at all. But she has to be good to get where she is. Not a lot of
young HS diploma people making big money these days. Neither are those
with basket weaving Liberal Arts degrees. Spend $150k getting an English
degree and Masters so you can teach school at $48k a year? Maybe should
have got a science degree and start at $75k.


Wow, so fourty years after graduation someone making 68 is "not bad at
all"... but 6+ plus less than ten years out of hs is.... oh forget it.. lol

Your 10 years out is near a top plateau. Other than inflation, there will
not be much increase in wages.



One of my wife's buddies, a psychiatric social worker with an M.S.
degree, works in a group medical practice and nets before taxes about $65
for each 45-minute patient session. That's net before taxes but after her
share of office overhead. I don't know what the bite is for overhead. She
sees six to seven patients a day, and sometimes works Saturdays to
accommodate patients who cannot make it it during the week. That's about
$2000 a week before taxes, and is decent earnings for a private practice
therapist working 50 miles south of the D.C. metro area.

I think I read somewhere that the military bases here are paying
substantially more on average for top therapists who see uniformed
personnel and their families under the Tri-Care system. One of the other
advantages of working in the Tri-Care system is that you don't have to
spend hours every day dealing with the morons at the health insurance companies.

Not bad pay for liberal arts grads performing a much needed social service.




How much did that social worker spend to get their masters. How much net
after taxes and expenses? $2000 a week is only $100k a year if you take 2
weeks vacation. Also minus holidays, etc. probably in the $75k before
taxes. Nice, but not great for a high cost of living area like DC.
Gregg's wife at $68K in Florida is doing much better.



I have no idea what she spent to get her masters, but I do know she went
to a public university to get it. I've seen her diploma. I also don't
know her "net" after taxes. It's not my business to know that. I know
what she grosses after overhead where she works, because she told my
wife and my wife told me.

It's sort of funny that so many of you righties think the only
"valuable" jobs are the ones with big paychecks, and the only courses
worth taking in college are those that lead to a degree with a big
paycheck. That philosophy represents a good deal of what is wrong with
this country. If you're ever hospitalized and being taken care of by
nurses, be sure to tell them how little what they do is worth, eh?


--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.�
Sarah Palin

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/9/14 5:50 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/9/14 3:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 10/9/2014 1:45 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:48:09 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

KC wrote:

The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree.
And $60K is not that much these days.


I would be happy with it..

So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary
these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker
about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below
what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation.

My wife makes $68k as a maintenance director at a country club and she
is shopping for a construction project manager job in the $75-100 k
range
She already turned one down because it was too far away (35 miles)

Not bad for a girl in SW Florida with a high school diploma.

Not bad at all. But she has to be good to get where she is. Not a lot of
young HS diploma people making big money these days. Neither are those
with basket weaving Liberal Arts degrees. Spend $150k getting an English
degree and Masters so you can teach school at $48k a year? Maybe should
have got a science degree and start at $75k.


Wow, so fourty years after graduation someone making 68 is "not bad at
all"... but 6+ plus less than ten years out of hs is.... oh forget it.. lol

Your 10 years out is near a top plateau. Other than inflation, there will
not be much increase in wages.



One of my wife's buddies, a psychiatric social worker with an M.S.
degree, works in a group medical practice and nets before taxes about $65
for each 45-minute patient session. That's net before taxes but after her
share of office overhead. I don't know what the bite is for overhead. She
sees six to seven patients a day, and sometimes works Saturdays to
accommodate patients who cannot make it it during the week. That's about
$2000 a week before taxes, and is decent earnings for a private practice
therapist working 50 miles south of the D.C. metro area.

I think I read somewhere that the military bases here are paying
substantially more on average for top therapists who see uniformed
personnel and their families under the Tri-Care system. One of the other
advantages of working in the Tri-Care system is that you don't have to
spend hours every day dealing with the morons at the health insurance companies.

Not bad pay for liberal arts grads performing a much needed social service.




How much did that social worker spend to get their masters. How much net
after taxes and expenses? $2000 a week is only $100k a year if you take 2
weeks vacation. Also minus holidays, etc. probably in the $75k before
taxes. Nice, but not great for a high cost of living area like DC.
Gregg's wife at $68K in Florida is doing much better.



I have no idea what she spent to get her masters, but I do know she went
to a public university to get it. I've seen her diploma. I also don't
know her "net" after taxes. It's not my business to know that. I know
what she grosses after overhead where she works, because she told my wife
and my wife told me.

It's sort of funny that so many of you righties think the only "valuable"
jobs are the ones with big paychecks, and the only courses worth taking
in college are those that lead to a degree with a big paycheck. That
philosophy represents a good deal of what is wrong with this country. If
you're ever hospitalized and being taken care of by nurses, be sure to
tell them how little what they do is worth, eh?



Nurses were way underpaid for years. And why do they need a masters or
even a bachelors to be a nurse? My mom was an RN. Extremely good RN. She
did have a degree, but got that in the late 1950's as was required to be a
public health nurse in San Francisco. Did not make her a better nurse.
Nursing school in the 1930's was 3 years, 11 months a year. As much time
as it takes to get a degree. What did the degree add to the skills
required? Actually a degreed nurse is less trained than those 3 year, 33
month nurses. How many hours were spent on useless courses?
As to taking classes, I still do. But they are for my entertainment and
knowledge.

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On 10/9/14 6:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/9/14 5:50 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/9/14 3:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 10/9/2014 1:45 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:48:09 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

KC wrote:

The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree.
And $60K is not that much these days.


I would be happy with it..

So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary
these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker
about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below
what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation.

My wife makes $68k as a maintenance director at a country club and she
is shopping for a construction project manager job in the $75-100 k
range
She already turned one down because it was too far away (35 miles)

Not bad for a girl in SW Florida with a high school diploma.

Not bad at all. But she has to be good to get where she is. Not a lot of
young HS diploma people making big money these days. Neither are those
with basket weaving Liberal Arts degrees. Spend $150k getting an English
degree and Masters so you can teach school at $48k a year? Maybe should
have got a science degree and start at $75k.


Wow, so fourty years after graduation someone making 68 is "not bad at
all"... but 6+ plus less than ten years out of hs is.... oh forget it.. lol

Your 10 years out is near a top plateau. Other than inflation, there will
not be much increase in wages.



One of my wife's buddies, a psychiatric social worker with an M.S.
degree, works in a group medical practice and nets before taxes about $65
for each 45-minute patient session. That's net before taxes but after her
share of office overhead. I don't know what the bite is for overhead. She
sees six to seven patients a day, and sometimes works Saturdays to
accommodate patients who cannot make it it during the week. That's about
$2000 a week before taxes, and is decent earnings for a private practice
therapist working 50 miles south of the D.C. metro area.

I think I read somewhere that the military bases here are paying
substantially more on average for top therapists who see uniformed
personnel and their families under the Tri-Care system. One of the other
advantages of working in the Tri-Care system is that you don't have to
spend hours every day dealing with the morons at the health insurance companies.

Not bad pay for liberal arts grads performing a much needed social service.




How much did that social worker spend to get their masters. How much net
after taxes and expenses? $2000 a week is only $100k a year if you take 2
weeks vacation. Also minus holidays, etc. probably in the $75k before
taxes. Nice, but not great for a high cost of living area like DC.
Gregg's wife at $68K in Florida is doing much better.



I have no idea what she spent to get her masters, but I do know she went
to a public university to get it. I've seen her diploma. I also don't
know her "net" after taxes. It's not my business to know that. I know
what she grosses after overhead where she works, because she told my wife
and my wife told me.

It's sort of funny that so many of you righties think the only "valuable"
jobs are the ones with big paychecks, and the only courses worth taking
in college are those that lead to a degree with a big paycheck. That
philosophy represents a good deal of what is wrong with this country. If
you're ever hospitalized and being taken care of by nurses, be sure to
tell them how little what they do is worth, eh?



Nurses were way underpaid for years. And why do they need a masters or
even a bachelors to be a nurse? My mom was an RN. Extremely good RN. She
did have a degree, but got that in the late 1950's as was required to be a
public health nurse in San Francisco. Did not make her a better nurse.
Nursing school in the 1930's was 3 years, 11 months a year. As much time
as it takes to get a degree. What did the degree add to the skills
required? Actually a degreed nurse is less trained than those 3 year, 33
month nurses. How many hours were spent on useless courses?
As to taking classes, I still do. But they are for my entertainment and
knowledge.


You are an incredibly ignorant ass. Really.

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.�
Sarah Palin

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/9/14 6:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/9/14 5:50 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/9/14 3:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 10/9/2014 1:45 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:48:09 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

KC wrote:

The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree.
And $60K is not that much these days.


I would be happy with it..

So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary
these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker
about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below
what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation.

My wife makes $68k as a maintenance director at a country club and she
is shopping for a construction project manager job in the $75-100 k
range
She already turned one down because it was too far away (35 miles)

Not bad for a girl in SW Florida with a high school diploma.

Not bad at all. But she has to be good to get where she is. Not a lot of
young HS diploma people making big money these days. Neither are those
with basket weaving Liberal Arts degrees. Spend $150k getting an English
degree and Masters so you can teach school at $48k a year? Maybe should
have got a science degree and start at $75k.


Wow, so fourty years after graduation someone making 68 is "not bad at
all"... but 6+ plus less than ten years out of hs is.... oh forget it.. lol

Your 10 years out is near a top plateau. Other than inflation, there will
not be much increase in wages.



One of my wife's buddies, a psychiatric social worker with an M.S.
degree, works in a group medical practice and nets before taxes about $65
for each 45-minute patient session. That's net before taxes but after her
share of office overhead. I don't know what the bite is for overhead. She
sees six to seven patients a day, and sometimes works Saturdays to
accommodate patients who cannot make it it during the week. That's about
$2000 a week before taxes, and is decent earnings for a private practice
therapist working 50 miles south of the D.C. metro area.

I think I read somewhere that the military bases here are paying
substantially more on average for top therapists who see uniformed
personnel and their families under the Tri-Care system. One of the other
advantages of working in the Tri-Care system is that you don't have to
spend hours every day dealing with the morons at the health insurance companies.

Not bad pay for liberal arts grads performing a much needed social service.




How much did that social worker spend to get their masters. How much net
after taxes and expenses? $2000 a week is only $100k a year if you take 2
weeks vacation. Also minus holidays, etc. probably in the $75k before
taxes. Nice, but not great for a high cost of living area like DC.
Gregg's wife at $68K in Florida is doing much better.



I have no idea what she spent to get her masters, but I do know she went
to a public university to get it. I've seen her diploma. I also don't
know her "net" after taxes. It's not my business to know that. I know
what she grosses after overhead where she works, because she told my wife
and my wife told me.

It's sort of funny that so many of you righties think the only "valuable"
jobs are the ones with big paychecks, and the only courses worth taking
in college are those that lead to a degree with a big paycheck. That
philosophy represents a good deal of what is wrong with this country. If
you're ever hospitalized and being taken care of by nurses, be sure to
tell them how little what they do is worth, eh?



Nurses were way underpaid for years. And why do they need a masters or
even a bachelors to be a nurse? My mom was an RN. Extremely good RN. She
did have a degree, but got that in the late 1950's as was required to be a
public health nurse in San Francisco. Did not make her a better nurse.
Nursing school in the 1930's was 3 years, 11 months a year. As much time
as it takes to get a degree. What did the degree add to the skills
required? Actually a degreed nurse is less trained than those 3 year, 33
month nurses. How many hours were spent on useless courses?
As to taking classes, I still do. But they are for my entertainment and
knowledge.


You are an incredibly ignorant ass. Really.


Moi? You could not answer the question, so butthead snarkiness.

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wrote:
On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 16:50:54 -0500, Califbill
wrote:



How much did that social worker spend to get their masters. How much net
after taxes and expenses? $2000 a week is only $100k a year if you take 2
weeks vacation. Also minus holidays, etc. probably in the $75k before
taxes. Nice, but not great for a high cost of living area like DC.
Gregg's wife at $68K in Florida is doing much better.

Considering she did not really start working in earnest until our
daughter graduated from high school in 1996, it wasn't bad at all.

If you believe the lefties, she is also at a 23% salary disadvantage
because she doesn't have a dick.

Not having the $210,000 student debt my son in law racked up certainly
gave her a big head start. That is basically a mortgage for a nice
house that you never get to live in.

And she is both smart and motivated. How many of those liberal arts grad
had no plan or motivation?