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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/8/2014 2:34 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I noted the word "almost". I think life experience trumps upper level
post-grad courses. I don't have that level of academia experience, so
it's just an opinion on my part.


Depends how you absorb learning. Certainly reading Shakespeare for
content can grant a lifetime of experience.
But until you're on the street you might not get street smarts.

You are often an interesting example of contradiction to me. On one
hand you extol the virtues and benefits of an extensive education that,
as you point out, is designed to "discipline" one's brain for abstract
thinking yet you often present with a fully cured, concrete thought
process when it comes to certain subjects. I think you learn and gain
more by keeping an open mind.

Agreed. But it doesn't hurt to call a spade a spade.
There's plenty of spades. Of course the gyre turns.



Shakespeare scared the crap out of me .... no, wait ... it was reading
Edgar Allen Poe that scared the crap out of me. I read "The Cask of
Amontillado" when I was about 12 or 13 years old. Shouldn't have.

The family was nuts. Supposedly Poe's niece lived in a house where I grew
up. Piled tires under the house and torched house and her. We found lots
of charcoal when we dug the garden.

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KC wrote:
On 10/8/2014 1:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 10/7/2014 9:36 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 19:57:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/7/14 7:38 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:00:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/7/14 4:15 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:42:57 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:48:32 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed teacher
during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year.

If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to
have guns, I will let you win that one.

Why should school teachers not responsible enough to have guns? Or did
you mean 'in school' after 'guns'?

They can't even remember they shouldn't date the students. How are
they going to remember where they left their gun?


Perhaps in your next life, if there is one, you'll get a college degree
and not be so disdainful of those who did.

Non responsive


Perfectly responsive to someone who is disdainful of formal higher
education.

I appreciate engineers, doctors, nurses, scientists and even, to some
extent, lawyers but just going to college, to say you went, seems
silly to me. There are plenty of guys like Bill Gates and Mark
Zuckerberg who agree with me. After a year or two they figured out
they had squeezed all the juice out of that lemon.


My 28 year old (tattooed and pierced) is making 60 a year and she got
sick one month into college and never went back. Last I knew that's about
twice what my 30 yo with a masters is making. Not to mention my 30 yo had
to change courses at least once, maybe twice and still doesn't really
work in the field she paid so much to learn. So, bottom line is both
worked their asses off for experience, difference is one got paid while
doing it, the other paid dearly and will be for a long time for it..

The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree.
And $60K is not that much these days.


I would be happy with it..

So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary
these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker
about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below
what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation.

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On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote:


I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no
clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating requires
one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify.


I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants
like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are, they
take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete
job they had in the service. Yawn.

One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving
aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a
firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one could
convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was
*somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy.

--
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Sarah Palin

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On 10/8/14 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 12:49:51 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 11:59:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 11:34 AM, wrote:

I'm pretty sure I don't need any more training on zombie killing.
$10,000? I'm not taking golf lessons. :)

It is pretty easy to spend 10 grand there if you want much more than
the introduction course. The courses are up to $2000 each and there
are lots of them. If you are not staying at the Super 8 you can also
add $1000-1500 a week to live there plus a plane ticket.


Yeah, I know how much the courses cost. The one I have in mind is not an
intro course, and is about a fifth of what you quoted, including a ton
of ammo. There are some decent motels near the site for about $75 a
night, so figure another grand for room, board, car rental,
entertainment (ha!).


I get the impression that you have to take the intro course before you
can take the others and they build on each other..

Simple math: it's one of those liberal arts thingies...

No you should have learned simple math in elementary school.


Elementary, intermediate, and secondary schools *are* liberal arts
schools, unless you opt for "vocational" junior high and high school.
After all the times I've told you, you boys still don't understand what
comprises "the liberal arts."

*Math* is one of the liberal arts.

My buddy has a Bachelors of SCIENCE degree in math.



And you think *science* is not one of the liberal arts, eh?

Perhaps this will help:

Liberal arts, college or university curriculum aimed at imparting
general knowledge and developing general intellectual capacities in
contrast to a professional, vocational, or technical curriculum. In the
medieval European university the seven liberal arts were grammar,
rhetoric, and logic (the trivium) and geometry, arithmetic, music, and
astronomy (the quadrivium). In modern colleges and universities the
liberal arts include the study of literature, languages, philosophy,
history, mathematics, and science as the basis of a general, or liberal,
education. Sometimes the liberal-arts curriculum is described as
comprehending study of three main branches of knowledge: the humanities
(literature, language, philosophy, the fine arts, and history), the
physical and biological sciences and mathematics, and the social sciences.

From the Britannica.

A B.S. in Math is not, per se, a professional, vocational, or technical
curriculum.



--
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On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?


Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin

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On 10/8/2014 4:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote:


I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no
clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating requires
one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify.


I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants
like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are, they
take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete
job they had in the service. Yawn.

One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving
aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a
firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one could
convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was
*somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy.



Why do secretive people annoy you so much? He does it to irritate you
more than anything else. Others who know him personally get a chuckle
out of your reactions and false assumptions about him.

'nuff said. Carry on.

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On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?


Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.



Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the
Universities and Colleges.

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On 10/8/14 4:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote:


I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no
clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating requires
one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify.


I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants
like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are, they
take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete
job they had in the service. Yawn.

One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving
aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a
firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one could
convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was
*somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy.



Why do secretive people annoy you so much? He does it to irritate you
more than anything else. Others who know him personally get a chuckle
out of your reactions and false assumptions about him.

'nuff said. Carry on.




I see very very few of his posts. I know he posts a lot because my
filter spits out the senders/headers. It is annoying because it
demonstrates his cowardice. He insults at will but keeps just about
everything about his life a deep dark secret. He's a pussy.

In junior high, where his development stopped, he would have had the
**** kicked out of him several times a week, at least he would have at
Sheridan. If you are going to play the game he plays, you should be man
enough to stand up and take it in return.




--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.�
Sarah Palin

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On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?


Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.



Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the
Universities and Colleges.




I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about
academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are
bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism.

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin

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On 10/8/2014 4:43 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote:


I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no
clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating
requires
one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify.


I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants
like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are, they
take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete
job they had in the service. Yawn.

One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving
aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a
firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one could
convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was
*somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy.



Why do secretive people annoy you so much? He does it to irritate you
more than anything else. Others who know him personally get a chuckle
out of your reactions and false assumptions about him.

'nuff said. Carry on.




I see very very few of his posts. I know he posts a lot because my
filter spits out the senders/headers. It is annoying because it
demonstrates his cowardice. He insults at will but keeps just about
everything about his life a deep dark secret. He's a pussy.

In junior high, where his development stopped, he would have had the
**** kicked out of him several times a week, at least he would have at
Sheridan. If you are going to play the game he plays, you should be man
enough to stand up and take it in return.





Like I said. False assumptions. It just annoys the hell out of you for
some reason that he doesn't share all his personal information in an
Internet newsgroup. Smart guy.

BTW ... *you* are the one that has him filtered.