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F*O*A*D October 7th 14 09:59 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/7/14 4:11 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 13:05:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/7/14 1:00 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:55:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/7/14 12:48 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed teacher
during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year.

If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to
have guns, I will let you win that one.


They're at least as "responsible" as former FBI agents and cops.
After all, far more innocents are shot and killed by FBI agents and cops
than school teachers.

I am not here to defend trigger happy FB I agents but 2 of the 3
incidents you cited were teachers.


Whoosh.


I guess that is Harry Speak for "I can't argue with what you said"



Your posit was specious...no need to waste time "arguing."

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin

F*O*A*D October 7th 14 10:00 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/7/14 4:15 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:42:57 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:48:32 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed teacher
during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year.

If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to
have guns, I will let you win that one.


Why should school teachers not responsible enough to have guns? Or did
you mean 'in school' after 'guns'?


They can't even remember they shouldn't date the students. How are
they going to remember where they left their gun?


Perhaps in your next life, if there is one, you'll get a college degree
and not be so disdainful of those who did.

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin

Poco Loco October 7th 14 10:05 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:15:31 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:42:57 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:48:32 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed teacher
during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year.

If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to
have guns, I will let you win that one.


Why should school teachers not responsible enough to have guns? Or did
you mean 'in school' after 'guns'?


They can't even remember they shouldn't date the students. How are
they going to remember where they left their gun?


Well hell...given the atrocious behavior of some cops and soldiers,
they shouldn't be allowed to have guns either!

Califbill October 7th 14 10:42 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/7/14 1:01 PM, KC wrote:
On 10/7/2014 12:48 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed teacher
during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year.

If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to
have guns, I will let you win that one.


It's the Dale Earnhardt syndrome... When you been doing something your
whole life and change it up, there are gonna' be glitches... How "used
to carrying" in a school situation with kids and laws, and parents and
everybody else scrutinizing you do you think these teachers are. It's a
brand new "carry environment" for most of these folks new (to them)
techniques and habits need to be formed.



Now that is a funny post.



On this post I agree.

Califbill October 7th 14 10:42 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/7/14 4:15 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:42:57 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:48:32 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed teacher
during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year.

If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to
have guns, I will let you win that one.

Why should school teachers not responsible enough to have guns? Or did
you mean 'in school' after 'guns'?


They can't even remember they shouldn't date the students. How are
they going to remember where they left their gun?


Perhaps in your next life, if there is one, you'll get a college degree
and not be so disdainful of those who did.



I have a university degree, and I agree with Gregg. And what does this
have to do with what Gregg stated?

KC October 7th 14 10:42 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/7/2014 5:05 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:15:31 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:42:57 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:48:32 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed teacher
during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year.

If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to
have guns, I will let you win that one.

Why should school teachers not responsible enough to have guns? Or did
you mean 'in school' after 'guns'?


They can't even remember they shouldn't date the students. How are
they going to remember where they left their gun?


Well hell...given the atrocious behavior of some cops and soldiers,
they shouldn't be allowed to have guns either!


Hey, there's good and bad in ever area.. I am in favor of armed
teachers, and I know that some day there is gonna' be a bad one in a
school.. I can only hope there is a good one there that's armed too, to
blow his ****ing head off... Cause the only thing that stops a bad guy
with a gun, is a good guy with a gun.

F*O*A*D October 7th 14 10:50 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/7/14 5:42 PM, KC wrote:
On 10/7/2014 5:05 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:15:31 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:42:57 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:48:32 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed
teacher
during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year.

If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to
have guns, I will let you win that one.

Why should school teachers not responsible enough to have guns? Or did
you mean 'in school' after 'guns'?

They can't even remember they shouldn't date the students. How are
they going to remember where they left their gun?


Well hell...given the atrocious behavior of some cops and soldiers,
they shouldn't be allowed to have guns either!


Hey, there's good and bad in ever area.. I am in favor of armed
teachers, and I know that some day there is gonna' be a bad one in a
school.. I can only hope there is a good one there that's armed too, to
blow his ****ing head off... Cause the only thing that stops a bad guy
with a gun, is a good guy with a gun.



Maybe you can find someone to buy you a gun so *you* can guard kids in
your local schools. Just fudge the psycho exam.

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin

KC October 8th 14 12:06 AM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/7/2014 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/7/14 1:01 PM, KC wrote:
On 10/7/2014 12:48 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed teacher
during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year.

If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to
have guns, I will let you win that one.


It's the Dale Earnhardt syndrome... When you been doing something your
whole life and change it up, there are gonna' be glitches... How "used
to carrying" in a school situation with kids and laws, and parents and
everybody else scrutinizing you do you think these teachers are. It's a
brand new "carry environment" for most of these folks new (to them)
techniques and habits need to be formed.



Now that is a funny post.



On this post I agree.


So you all feel that these guys should come in already conditioned to
stealth carry in a classroom situation? I can think of a lot of reasons
these teachers might want to carry even more covertly than in the
general public where folks are not staring at you 6 hours a day... in
fact, they may be using a new system, holster, or even weapon
specifically to carry in school. There are gonna' be mistakes. Doesn't
mean there was bad intent, and it doesn't mean it's not a good idea.

F*O*A*D October 8th 14 12:11 AM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/7/14 7:06 PM, KC wrote:
On 10/7/2014 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/7/14 1:01 PM, KC wrote:
On 10/7/2014 12:48 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed
teacher
during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year.

If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to
have guns, I will let you win that one.


It's the Dale Earnhardt syndrome... When you been doing something your
whole life and change it up, there are gonna' be glitches... How "used
to carrying" in a school situation with kids and laws, and parents and
everybody else scrutinizing you do you think these teachers are. It's a
brand new "carry environment" for most of these folks new (to them)
techniques and habits need to be formed.


Now that is a funny post.



On this post I agree.


So you all feel that these guys should come in already conditioned to
stealth carry in a classroom situation? I can think of a lot of reasons
these teachers might want to carry even more covertly than in the
general public where folks are not staring at you 6 hours a day... in
fact, they may be using a new system, holster, or even weapon
specifically to carry in school. There are gonna' be mistakes. Doesn't
mean there was bad intent, and it doesn't mean it's not a good idea.



Perhaps one of your kids will be one of the "mistakes," eh?


--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.â€
Sarah Palin

F*O*A*D October 8th 14 12:57 AM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/7/14 7:37 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:59:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/7/14 4:11 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 13:05:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/7/14 1:00 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:55:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/7/14 12:48 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed teacher
during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year.

If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to
have guns, I will let you win that one.


They're at least as "responsible" as former FBI agents and cops.
After all, far more innocents are shot and killed by FBI agents and cops
than school teachers.

I am not here to defend trigger happy FB I agents but 2 of the 3
incidents you cited were teachers.


Whoosh.

I guess that is Harry Speak for "I can't argue with what you said"



Your posit was specious...no need to waste time "arguing."


The whole thread is specious, what's your point?

You still ducked the issue that 2 or the 3 people who you cited were
teachers and one was a trigger happy FBI agent. Maybe he was at Ruby
Ridge, Waco or Orlando



The point is that having a teacher or even a former cop or FBI agent in
a school to protect the kids and teachers is fraught with stupidity and
danger in addition to that posed by a crazed shooter. The fact that two
of the three incidents were related to teachers is not the issue...the
issue is that these so-called solutions are simple-minded. Schools have
many entrances and windows, and even if these are locked, a determined
shooter would have no problem getting inside. And since most of them
don't care whether they live or die, they could shoot up several
classrooms before someone with a gun showed up to defend the kids. And
it is likely the "protector" would be shot, too.


--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin


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