On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 20:30:17 -0400, Earl wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jun 2014 15:15:21 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Tim wrote:
Here's a pretty good explanation of why....

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/
Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399
for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR?
Commodity center fire ammo will flirt with 15-20 cents a round and I
will jump back in. Until then I am OK.

.308 is still more than .45!

..45's pretty cheap at WalMart, and they seem to have it most of the time.

Bill McKee wrote:
On 6/9/14, 5:29 PM, Earl wrote:
Califbill wrote:
Tim wrote:
Here's a pretty good explanation of why....

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/


Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport.
$399
for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR?

I don't like how the M&P shoots. The gas system doesn't seem as refined
as my Colt or my friend's Rock River Arms. It feels more like my bolt
action .223.

There are two different systems. The M&P and original M16 gas tube
system and then the newer more expensive Piston at the end of the
forestock system.

My Colt AR15 is pre-ban. If the gas system if the same as the M&P
there's something else that is off.

Bill McKee wrote:
On 6/9/14, 2:45 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, June 8, 2014 1:15:21 PM UTC-7, Califbill wrote:
Tim wrote:

Here's a pretty good explanation of why....



http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/




Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P
Sport. $399

for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR?

I'd say that the M&P is just as good as an AR, And I doubt you'll
find the AR's dropping in price that much. Might be wrong though...

i read where there is starting to be an oversupply of AR type weapons.
Most have filled their fears in buying and the supply line is still
cranked up.


That's very true. Look at the price of the Windham's now.

BAR wrote:
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Califbill wrote:
Tim wrote:
Here's a pretty good explanation of why....

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/
Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399
for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR?

I don't like how the M&P shoots. The gas system doesn't seem as refined
as my Colt or my friend's Rock River Arms. It feels more like my bolt
action .223.
Change the buffer spring or the buffer.

Sure, but if the factory is content with their product and I can buy a
better firearm off the shelf, why the need for modifications?

Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 20:30:17 -0400, Earl wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jun 2014 15:15:21 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Tim wrote:
Here's a pretty good explanation of why....

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/
Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399
for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR?
Commodity center fire ammo will flirt with 15-20 cents a round and I
will jump back in. Until then I am OK.

.308 is still more than .45!
.45's pretty cheap at WalMart, and they seem to have it most of the time.
Finding .380 (I miss-typed) is the problem - at a decent price. 9MM is
cheaper from the same manufacturers!?

wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:40:32 -0400, Earl wrote:

.45's pretty cheap at WalMart, and they seem to have it most of the time.
Finding .380 (I miss-typed) is the problem - at a decent price. 9MM is
cheaper from the same manufacturers!?
They sell a lot more 9mm.
As the pipeline fills up the other calibers will start catching up.

You will usually still find the best deals online, even with shipping
... assuming your state will let them ship it to you.

I am still waiting this one out.
I check wikiarms.com periodically. I also have the app on my phone.

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.

On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle.
When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each
gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so
I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl
grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice
looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one
and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical
to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg

On 6/11/14, 8:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle.
When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each
gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so
I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl
grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice
looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one
and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical
to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg



Plenty of choices for that ammo he

http://ammoseek.com/ammo/380-auto

I kind of like the Ruger LCR in .357 MAG/.38 Special for concealed carry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTn-p0JSKUo

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If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

On 6/11/2014 9:09 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:34:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle.
When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each
gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so
I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl
grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice
looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one
and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical
to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg


I guess the law there makes internet sales illegal.


Very few dealers will even consider shipping to a FFL in MA because of
the confusion on what's banned and what's not. Shipping directly to the
buyer is not permitted obviously. Heck, I can't even buy ammo on-line.
MA doesn't allow that.

Many of the manufacturers of popular handguns don't bother trying to get
their models approved here either. Too much red tape and I think they
have to provide a minimum of five of each model to be tested. They are
destroyed in the process and there's no guarantee it will be approved.
Some of the rules are just plain stupid. One popular model (I think
it was a Ruger) was banned because the AG didn't like where the serial
number was placed. I guess the AG's office wants Ruger to modify their
production line just to meet their opinion of where it should be.