On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg


Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

On 6/12/2014 10:55 PM, BAR wrote:
In article om,
says...

On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg


Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maryland made many of the Beretta products illegal to sell in Maryland
but, they did give them a waiver to manufacture them. Beretta said screw
you and is moving to Tennessee.

That's reasonable. I'm sure Tennessee values their business.

On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 20:21:49 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 6/12/2014 6:54 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/12/2014 8:03 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle.
When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each
gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so
I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl
grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice
looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one
and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical
to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg

I would rather have the Colt Mustang .380.

380 ammo prices are coming down, just not as fast as the other types of
ammo.



I'd like one also but, like the Ruger LCP, the Colt Mustang is not MA
compliant.

I think the list of non-compliant handguns in MA is longer than the
list of compliant models.

I thought MA was a pro choice state?



It is. It's up to the choice of the Attorney General.


Let me know next time you're coming through the DC area, and I'll be glad to pick up some .380 for
you. I understand shipping it is a pain in the ass.

On 6/13/2014 11:33 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:27:37 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:


Let me know next time you're coming through the DC area, and I'll be glad to pick up some .380 for
you. I understand shipping it is a pain in the ass.

Shipping is not a problem to places that will let you. That is not
true in Mass.
UPS will take declared ammo shipments (Harry sent me some) and I know
of several people who simply stuff a "USPS priority flat rate box" and
mail it.




It's done like you say by friends, etc., but it's not legal. On-line
ammo dealers won't sell and ship to MA residents although a few have
been known to do it.

When you purchase ammo from a brick and mortar store, i.e. dealer,
Dick's Sporting Goods or Wal-Mart, you have to show your gun permit and
they record the sale.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg


Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??

On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg


Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9)
that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The
fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in
MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for
sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety
design on the CM9.

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier
this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg


Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm
(PM9) that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates.
The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for
sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version
specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the
same unique safety design on the CM9.


The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference.

On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg


Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9)
that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The
fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in
MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for
sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety
design on the CM9.

All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't
appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may
only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for
all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside.



I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle
differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a
reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9.
It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant
version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version
of the PM9.

For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA.

On 6/13/2014 10:03 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier
this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg


Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm
(PM9) that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The
fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in
MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for
sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety
design on the CM9.


The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference.


Bingo. MA is big on safeties. The more the merrier.

On 6/14/14, 2:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one
out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500
rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier
this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had
but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain
but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg



Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9)
that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The
fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in
MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for
sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety
design on the CM9.

All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't
appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may
only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for
all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside.



I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle
differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a
reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9.
It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant
version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version
of the PM9.

For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA.



And that means that your choice of "certified" pocket rockets is down to
what, 3,023?

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