On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 7:20:33 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:43:46 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:

...one must first meet the Pilot Qualification Requirements. That should be a pretty easy task,



right? Think again:







http://www.1nvrc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Pilot_Qualification_Requirements_2013.pdf







Check out the flight requirements on the bottom. The requirements to carry a concealed firearm



aren't nearly as tough!



To someone just starting out that seems like a lot, but once you get comfortable it's really not that bad. There's a steep learning curve early, then it gets easier.



Sounds like they are a busy, crowded club, and don't want any newbies slowing up the flight line.

Oh, and I should mention that even our little club has "requirements", but they are pretty simple. You come out and fly as a guest, and get at least three members to sign your application stating that they've seen you fly safely. You then get voted on at the next meeting. Once they get the signatures, I've never heard of anyone not getting the votes.

Where's this? Do you fly? What?

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:



On Saturday, March 8, 2014 7:20:33 AM UTC-5, wrote:

On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:43:46 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:



...one must first meet the Pilot Qualification Requirements. That should be a pretty easy task,







right? Think again:















http://www.1nvrc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Pilot_Qualification_Requirements_2013.pdf















Check out the flight requirements on the bottom. The requirements to carry a concealed firearm







aren't nearly as tough!







To someone just starting out that seems like a lot, but once you get comfortable it's really not that bad. There's a steep learning curve early, then it gets easier.







Sounds like they are a busy, crowded club, and don't want any newbies slowing up the flight line.



Oh, and I should mention that even our little club has "requirements", but they are pretty simple. You come out and fly as a guest, and get at least three members to sign your application stating that they've seen you fly safely. You then get voted on at the next meeting. Once they get the signatures, I've never heard of anyone not getting the votes.



Where's this? Do you fly? What?

I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes.

This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/

I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year.

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:




Where's this? Do you fly? What?

I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes.

This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/

I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year.

Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to
take-offs and landings.

Thanks for the link. That was fun.

Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two
airplanes:

Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610

or, the Apprentice, RTF,
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100

The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go
with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only
the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub
BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices.

What do you think?

In article , says...

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:




Where's this? Do you fly? What?

I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes.

This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/

I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year.

Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to
take-offs and landings.

Thanks for the link. That was fun.

Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two
airplanes:

Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610

or, the Apprentice, RTF,
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100

The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go
with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only
the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub
BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices.

What do you think?

It appears that your choice is flying your plane or fixing your plane. Which one do you want
to do the most?

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:41:59 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:




Where's this? Do you fly? What?

I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes.

This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/

I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year.

Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to
take-offs and landings.

Thanks for the link. That was fun.

Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two
airplanes:

Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610

or, the Apprentice, RTF,
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100

The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go
with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only
the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub
BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices.

What do you think?

It appears that your choice is flying your plane or fixing your plane. Which one do you want
to do the most?

Why do you say that?

On 3/8/2014 3:15 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:41:59 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:




Where's this? Do you fly? What?

I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes.

This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/

I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year.

Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to
take-offs and landings.

Thanks for the link. That was fun.

Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two
airplanes:

Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610

or, the Apprentice, RTF,
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100

The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go
with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only
the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub
BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices.

What do you think?

It appears that your choice is flying your plane or fixing your plane. Which one do you want
to do the most?

Why do you say that?


I thought about it for a second then thought you can pay 169 and spend
time fixing it, or 299 and fly it...

On 3/8/2014 3:15 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:41:59 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:




Where's this? Do you fly? What?

I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes.

This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/

I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year.

Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to
take-offs and landings.

Thanks for the link. That was fun.

Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two
airplanes:

Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610

or, the Apprentice, RTF,
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100

The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go
with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only
the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub
BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices.

What do you think?

It appears that your choice is flying your plane or fixing your plane. Which one do you want
to do the most?

Why do you say that?


Sorry, didn't finish my though.. I think he means the learning curve is
such that if you buy the cheaper plane without the safe tech, you will
crash it and break it.. that's downtime... For 299 you get the SAFE and
won't spend so much time down...

In article , says...

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:41:59 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:




Where's this? Do you fly? What?

I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes.

This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/

I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year.

Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to
take-offs and landings.

Thanks for the link. That was fun.

Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two
airplanes:

Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610

or, the Apprentice, RTF,
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100

The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go
with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only
the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub
BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices.

What do you think?

It appears that your choice is flying your plane or fixing your plane. Which one do you want
to do the most?

Why do you say that?

The Apprentice has the "SAFE" feature which will keep your plane from making a Blew Crater.
One piece blew over there, one piece blew over that way...

On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 09:15:52 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:41:59 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:




Where's this? Do you fly? What?

I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes.

This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/

I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year.

Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to
take-offs and landings.

Thanks for the link. That was fun.

Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two
airplanes:

Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610

or, the Apprentice, RTF,
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100

The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go
with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only
the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub
BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices.

What do you think?

It appears that your choice is flying your plane or fixing your plane. Which one do you want
to do the most?

Why do you say that?

The Apprentice has the "SAFE" feature which will keep your plane from making a Blew Crater.
One piece blew over there, one piece blew over that way...

One of the experts at the 'airfield' says to forget the 'SAFE'. His attitude was 'we'll teach you
how to fly 'safe'!

The plane I'm considering, the Super Cub, will be sold with the 'SAFE' technology in the next month
or two. Haven't decided if I want to wait. Everything else on the plane will be the same as on the
current model, and, surprisingly, the addition of the 'SAFE' technology doesn't add to the cost of
the plane.

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:07:46 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:



On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:









Where's this? Do you fly? What?



I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes.



This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/



I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year.



Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to

take-offs and landings.



Thanks for the link. That was fun.



Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two

airplanes:



Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610



or, the Apprentice, RTF,

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100



The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go

with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only

the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub

BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices.



What do you think?

The Super Cub is a taildragger, which is a little more challenging to taxi, take off, and land. The Apprentice, being a trike gear plane, will be easier on the ground. Both being high winged aircraft with essentially flat bottom airfoils, they will have similar flight characteristics (self-righting and docile). That's what you want in a trainer. The Cub may be a bit more fun when you get more advanced with your skills, which may be why the flyers are suggesting it. Bigger flies better, and IMO, the Apprentice will be the easiest to learn with.

As far as the radios, the basic 5 channel will do the job for learning. You may find that you don't really like RC. The 6 channel does have the features that you'll want if you stick with it and get good. When you get into aerobatic planes, exponential and dual rates are a must, and multi-model memory is great so you don't have to carry multiple transmitters to the field when your fleet grows.

I started with a fairly basic transmitter, then bought a full-blown 8 channel computer one when for my second plane. Still use the basic one for one of my glow powered fun flyers. Oh, and a third one for electrics.

Good luck and have fun!