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On 2/24/14, 6:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/24/2014 5:54 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/24/14, 5:38 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:12:01 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/24/14, 5:00 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:18:14 -0500, KC wrote: Averted a disaster the other night... Went down stairs about 10 pm to do a load of laundry and noticed a seal had blown on the pressure guage on my water system in the basement and was pouring what must have been a gallon every couple minutes.. I must have found it less than ten minutes in and capped it off before my basement flooded.. it was just one of those things. If I had not done laundry that night, my house would be ****ed right now... I have been fighting a new Hayward filter for my spa. This thing seems to have some oversized 1.5" NPT hubs on it and you can't get a regular male adapter to seal. I have cut the plumbing open and replaced it about 5 times so far. Last time I went with schedule 80 pipe nipples with 1/4" cut off the end that I could run in a little farther than a regular fitting with a shoulder on it and that seems to be working. You could always hire a competent plumber, but, of course, you prefer tinkering. ![]() The problem is not the plumber, it is the material. If the fittings do not mate properly, no amount of skill would fix it. I suppose I could have glued it up as a "pool plumber" actually advised but then you are ****ed if you have to take it apart again. Instead of a dollar fitting, you are buying a $250 filter housing. BTW your regular plumber is not really a pool plumber anyway. They really don't like screwing with them. Pool plumbers tend to be the kid at the pool store who got in the business because he likes the smell of the glue. The builder my wife worked for (Centex) had their own pool company and I was not impressed with the people working there. Well, I will gladly plead ignorance about pools and pool maintenance. Whenever we do a significant "home improvement" here, I always take into account how much work it will generate for regular maintenance. That's why I don't have underground sprinklers. Everyone I see around here who has such a system has frequent visits from the underground sprinkler install/maintain companies. I think pools fall into the same category...lots of maintenance. I have no particular affection for having a pool but after having four of them in different houses, I have to admit that technology has made routine maintenance chores almost non-existent. Automatic chlorine generators (using salt) and a microprocessor than monitors and controls it's operation has made the requirement for weekly chemical tests and making constant adjustments obsolete. The pool we have takes some cleanup when opened in the spring (because of our location) but after it is up and running, that's about all we have to do for the summer. We have the water tested 2 or 3 times during the season just to be sure everything is ok and it always is. We also invested in a "Shark" that automatically scoots around the pool bottom and sides, picking up any debris that may have fallen in and settled. I change the diatomaceous earth filter media two or three times during the start-up, but again, once the pool is clear and clean, it's good for pretty much the whole season. Not like the old chlorine pools we had before. Oh, and I don't like to swim in pools, either. Or lakes. Or Chesapeake Bay. The ocean is about it for me. I don't know why that is. Never liked the chlorine in pools. Are you saying it isn't used anymore? That's a step in the right direction! |
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On 2/24/2014 6:32 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/24/14, 6:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/24/2014 5:54 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/24/14, 5:38 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:12:01 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/24/14, 5:00 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:18:14 -0500, KC wrote: Averted a disaster the other night... Went down stairs about 10 pm to do a load of laundry and noticed a seal had blown on the pressure guage on my water system in the basement and was pouring what must have been a gallon every couple minutes.. I must have found it less than ten minutes in and capped it off before my basement flooded.. it was just one of those things. If I had not done laundry that night, my house would be ****ed right now... I have been fighting a new Hayward filter for my spa. This thing seems to have some oversized 1.5" NPT hubs on it and you can't get a regular male adapter to seal. I have cut the plumbing open and replaced it about 5 times so far. Last time I went with schedule 80 pipe nipples with 1/4" cut off the end that I could run in a little farther than a regular fitting with a shoulder on it and that seems to be working. You could always hire a competent plumber, but, of course, you prefer tinkering. ![]() The problem is not the plumber, it is the material. If the fittings do not mate properly, no amount of skill would fix it. I suppose I could have glued it up as a "pool plumber" actually advised but then you are ****ed if you have to take it apart again. Instead of a dollar fitting, you are buying a $250 filter housing. BTW your regular plumber is not really a pool plumber anyway. They really don't like screwing with them. Pool plumbers tend to be the kid at the pool store who got in the business because he likes the smell of the glue. The builder my wife worked for (Centex) had their own pool company and I was not impressed with the people working there. Well, I will gladly plead ignorance about pools and pool maintenance. Whenever we do a significant "home improvement" here, I always take into account how much work it will generate for regular maintenance. That's why I don't have underground sprinklers. Everyone I see around here who has such a system has frequent visits from the underground sprinkler install/maintain companies. I think pools fall into the same category...lots of maintenance. I have no particular affection for having a pool but after having four of them in different houses, I have to admit that technology has made routine maintenance chores almost non-existent. Automatic chlorine generators (using salt) and a microprocessor than monitors and controls it's operation has made the requirement for weekly chemical tests and making constant adjustments obsolete. The pool we have takes some cleanup when opened in the spring (because of our location) but after it is up and running, that's about all we have to do for the summer. We have the water tested 2 or 3 times during the season just to be sure everything is ok and it always is. We also invested in a "Shark" that automatically scoots around the pool bottom and sides, picking up any debris that may have fallen in and settled. I change the diatomaceous earth filter media two or three times during the start-up, but again, once the pool is clear and clean, it's good for pretty much the whole season. Not like the old chlorine pools we had before. Oh, and I don't like to swim in pools, either. Or lakes. Or Chesapeake Bay. The ocean is about it for me. I don't know why that is. Never liked the chlorine in pools. Are you saying it isn't used anymore? That's a step in the right direction! Chlorine is still used but in most newer pools it is generated by electrically disassociating salt. So, you don't add chlorine or chlorine tablets. You add salt. Bags of it. When running properly, you can't smell or detect any chlorine presence. The system controls the required chlorination much more accurately than by using tablets or liquid. Plus, for some reason I don't totally understand, a chlorine by salt pool has a silky feel to the water. I love the ocean as well but a properly operating pool is a lot more sanitary. |
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On 2/24/2014 6:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/24/2014 6:32 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/24/14, 6:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/24/2014 5:54 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/24/14, 5:38 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:12:01 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/24/14, 5:00 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:18:14 -0500, KC wrote: Averted a disaster the other night... Went down stairs about 10 pm to do a load of laundry and noticed a seal had blown on the pressure guage on my water system in the basement and was pouring what must have been a gallon every couple minutes.. I must have found it less than ten minutes in and capped it off before my basement flooded.. it was just one of those things. If I had not done laundry that night, my house would be ****ed right now... I have been fighting a new Hayward filter for my spa. This thing seems to have some oversized 1.5" NPT hubs on it and you can't get a regular male adapter to seal. I have cut the plumbing open and replaced it about 5 times so far. Last time I went with schedule 80 pipe nipples with 1/4" cut off the end that I could run in a little farther than a regular fitting with a shoulder on it and that seems to be working. You could always hire a competent plumber, but, of course, you prefer tinkering. ![]() The problem is not the plumber, it is the material. If the fittings do not mate properly, no amount of skill would fix it. I suppose I could have glued it up as a "pool plumber" actually advised but then you are ****ed if you have to take it apart again. Instead of a dollar fitting, you are buying a $250 filter housing. BTW your regular plumber is not really a pool plumber anyway. They really don't like screwing with them. Pool plumbers tend to be the kid at the pool store who got in the business because he likes the smell of the glue. The builder my wife worked for (Centex) had their own pool company and I was not impressed with the people working there. Well, I will gladly plead ignorance about pools and pool maintenance. Whenever we do a significant "home improvement" here, I always take into account how much work it will generate for regular maintenance. That's why I don't have underground sprinklers. Everyone I see around here who has such a system has frequent visits from the underground sprinkler install/maintain companies. I think pools fall into the same category...lots of maintenance. I have no particular affection for having a pool but after having four of them in different houses, I have to admit that technology has made routine maintenance chores almost non-existent. Automatic chlorine generators (using salt) and a microprocessor than monitors and controls it's operation has made the requirement for weekly chemical tests and making constant adjustments obsolete. The pool we have takes some cleanup when opened in the spring (because of our location) but after it is up and running, that's about all we have to do for the summer. We have the water tested 2 or 3 times during the season just to be sure everything is ok and it always is. We also invested in a "Shark" that automatically scoots around the pool bottom and sides, picking up any debris that may have fallen in and settled. I change the diatomaceous earth filter media two or three times during the start-up, but again, once the pool is clear and clean, it's good for pretty much the whole season. Not like the old chlorine pools we had before. Oh, and I don't like to swim in pools, either. Or lakes. Or Chesapeake Bay. The ocean is about it for me. I don't know why that is. Never liked the chlorine in pools. Are you saying it isn't used anymore? That's a step in the right direction! Chlorine is still used but in most newer pools it is generated by electrically disassociating salt. So, you don't add chlorine or chlorine tablets. You add salt. Bags of it. When running properly, you can't smell or detect any chlorine presence. The system controls the required chlorination much more accurately than by using tablets or liquid. Plus, for some reason I don't totally understand, a chlorine by salt pool has a silky feel to the water. I love the ocean as well but a properly operating pool is a lot more sanitary. Think water softener salt. |
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On 2/24/2014 7:15 PM, HanK wrote:
On 2/24/2014 6:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/24/2014 6:32 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/24/14, 6:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/24/2014 5:54 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/24/14, 5:38 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:12:01 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/24/14, 5:00 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:18:14 -0500, KC wrote: Averted a disaster the other night... Went down stairs about 10 pm to do a load of laundry and noticed a seal had blown on the pressure guage on my water system in the basement and was pouring what must have been a gallon every couple minutes.. I must have found it less than ten minutes in and capped it off before my basement flooded.. it was just one of those things. If I had not done laundry that night, my house would be ****ed right now... I have been fighting a new Hayward filter for my spa. This thing seems to have some oversized 1.5" NPT hubs on it and you can't get a regular male adapter to seal. I have cut the plumbing open and replaced it about 5 times so far. Last time I went with schedule 80 pipe nipples with 1/4" cut off the end that I could run in a little farther than a regular fitting with a shoulder on it and that seems to be working. You could always hire a competent plumber, but, of course, you prefer tinkering. ![]() The problem is not the plumber, it is the material. If the fittings do not mate properly, no amount of skill would fix it. I suppose I could have glued it up as a "pool plumber" actually advised but then you are ****ed if you have to take it apart again. Instead of a dollar fitting, you are buying a $250 filter housing. BTW your regular plumber is not really a pool plumber anyway. They really don't like screwing with them. Pool plumbers tend to be the kid at the pool store who got in the business because he likes the smell of the glue. The builder my wife worked for (Centex) had their own pool company and I was not impressed with the people working there. Well, I will gladly plead ignorance about pools and pool maintenance. Whenever we do a significant "home improvement" here, I always take into account how much work it will generate for regular maintenance. That's why I don't have underground sprinklers. Everyone I see around here who has such a system has frequent visits from the underground sprinkler install/maintain companies. I think pools fall into the same category...lots of maintenance. I have no particular affection for having a pool but after having four of them in different houses, I have to admit that technology has made routine maintenance chores almost non-existent. Automatic chlorine generators (using salt) and a microprocessor than monitors and controls it's operation has made the requirement for weekly chemical tests and making constant adjustments obsolete. The pool we have takes some cleanup when opened in the spring (because of our location) but after it is up and running, that's about all we have to do for the summer. We have the water tested 2 or 3 times during the season just to be sure everything is ok and it always is. We also invested in a "Shark" that automatically scoots around the pool bottom and sides, picking up any debris that may have fallen in and settled. I change the diatomaceous earth filter media two or three times during the start-up, but again, once the pool is clear and clean, it's good for pretty much the whole season. Not like the old chlorine pools we had before. Oh, and I don't like to swim in pools, either. Or lakes. Or Chesapeake Bay. The ocean is about it for me. I don't know why that is. Never liked the chlorine in pools. Are you saying it isn't used anymore? That's a step in the right direction! Chlorine is still used but in most newer pools it is generated by electrically disassociating salt. So, you don't add chlorine or chlorine tablets. You add salt. Bags of it. When running properly, you can't smell or detect any chlorine presence. The system controls the required chlorination much more accurately than by using tablets or liquid. Plus, for some reason I don't totally understand, a chlorine by salt pool has a silky feel to the water. I love the ocean as well but a properly operating pool is a lot more sanitary. Think water softener salt. It's awesome swimming in the salted water in our pool... |
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On 2/24/2014 9:15 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/24/2014 8:42 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 19:41:56 -0500, KC wrote: It's awesome swimming in the salted water in our pool... It should be about 5 ppt salt, about the same as the bay, up in the North East spur past Baltimore (or the Potomac around Port Tobacco). Ok... I just poured in what the directions said and it was good... The computer in the chlorinatior took care of the percentages ![]() Gregg is wrong. I don't know what "ppt" is, but your pool and mine are not salt water. They have a relatively small amount of salt (about 3,000 parts per million or "ppm") that is used to generate chlorine. The bay he is talking about has more like 35,000 parts per million of salt. |
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On 2/25/2014 1:41 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:46:14 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/24/2014 8:42 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 19:41:56 -0500, KC wrote: It's awesome swimming in the salted water in our pool... It should be about 5 ppt salt, about the same as the bay, up in the North East spur past Baltimore (or the Potomac around Port Tobacco). Huh? Sea water is about 3.7 percent salt or 35,000 parts per million. The salt in a salt water system pool is in the 2,800 to 3,600 parts per million range. It's *not* salt water. They usually use parts per thousand when they talk about bays and oceans. Push that decimal place over 3 and we are on the same page. "ppt" is parts per trillion, not parts per thousand. |
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