....in my house is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrvU4mAszI

I despise plumbing.

On 2/23/2014 11:51 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
...in my house is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrvU4mAszI

I despise plumbing.


They are expensive, but for one or two quick connections take a look at
"shark bite" fittings... They work with copper or plastic, great for
places where sweating a pipe or a wrench are not easy to get to...

On 2/24/2014 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 23:27:06 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/23/2014 11:51 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
...in my house is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrvU4mAszI

I despise plumbing.


They are expensive, but for one or two quick connections take a look at
"shark bite" fittings... They work with copper or plastic, great for
places where sweating a pipe or a wrench are not easy to get to...

Most of the plumbing down here is plastic.
Florida water eats metal



I have no idea what the current codes are but I know PVC and other types
of plastic water lines used in the supply side for water used for
consumption remains controversial. Copper water pipes are naturally
anti-microbial preventing bacteria growth within them. PVC is not.

Due to it's anti-microbial and anti-fouling properties, copper has been
used since the 18th century as an anti-fouling agent on boat hulls. The
USS Constitution's hull is covered by copper sheathing which was first
implemented by the British Royal Navy. For years ablative, copper based
bottom paint has been used on both large ships and recreational boats
but there is now a push to ban it's use due to environmental concerns.

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 04:02:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 23:27:06 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/23/2014 11:51 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
...in my house is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrvU4mAszI

I despise plumbing.


They are expensive, but for one or two quick connections take a look at
"shark bite" fittings... They work with copper or plastic, great for
places where sweating a pipe or a wrench are not easy to get to...

Most of the plumbing down here is plastic.
Florida water eats metal



I have no idea what the current codes are but I know PVC and other types
of plastic water lines used in the supply side for water used for
consumption remains controversial. Copper water pipes are naturally
anti-microbial preventing bacteria growth within them. PVC is not.

Due to it's anti-microbial and anti-fouling properties, copper has been
used since the 18th century as an anti-fouling agent on boat hulls. The
USS Constitution's hull is covered by copper sheathing which was first
implemented by the British Royal Navy. For years ablative, copper based
bottom paint has been used on both large ships and recreational boats
but there is now a push to ban it's use due to environmental concerns.


Copper is what's sticking out of my wall under the toilet, therefore copper will be used. I'm not
changing any plumbing lines, that's for damn sure!

May not have to change anything. Turned the valve handle in a ways and noticed the leak reduced.
Turned it in a tad more and haven't had a drop come out in more than 12 hours.

Yippee.

On 2/24/2014 7:13 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 04:02:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 23:27:06 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/23/2014 11:51 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
...in my house is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrvU4mAszI

I despise plumbing.


They are expensive, but for one or two quick connections take a look at
"shark bite" fittings... They work with copper or plastic, great for
places where sweating a pipe or a wrench are not easy to get to...

Most of the plumbing down here is plastic.
Florida water eats metal



I have no idea what the current codes are but I know PVC and other types
of plastic water lines used in the supply side for water used for
consumption remains controversial. Copper water pipes are naturally
anti-microbial preventing bacteria growth within them. PVC is not.

Due to it's anti-microbial and anti-fouling properties, copper has been
used since the 18th century as an anti-fouling agent on boat hulls. The
USS Constitution's hull is covered by copper sheathing which was first
implemented by the British Royal Navy. For years ablative, copper based
bottom paint has been used on both large ships and recreational boats
but there is now a push to ban it's use due to environmental concerns.


Copper is what's sticking out of my wall under the toilet, therefore copper will be used. I'm not
changing any plumbing lines, that's for damn sure!

May not have to change anything. Turned the valve handle in a ways and noticed the leak reduced.
Turned it in a tad more and haven't had a drop come out in more than 12 hours.

Yippee.


I know how you feel. I despise having to do anything related to
plumbing. Electrical, no problem but I usually break more than I fix
when trying to work on plumbing.

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 07:19:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 7:13 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 04:02:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 23:27:06 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/23/2014 11:51 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
...in my house is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrvU4mAszI

I despise plumbing.


They are expensive, but for one or two quick connections take a look at
"shark bite" fittings... They work with copper or plastic, great for
places where sweating a pipe or a wrench are not easy to get to...

Most of the plumbing down here is plastic.
Florida water eats metal



I have no idea what the current codes are but I know PVC and other types
of plastic water lines used in the supply side for water used for
consumption remains controversial. Copper water pipes are naturally
anti-microbial preventing bacteria growth within them. PVC is not.

Due to it's anti-microbial and anti-fouling properties, copper has been
used since the 18th century as an anti-fouling agent on boat hulls. The
USS Constitution's hull is covered by copper sheathing which was first
implemented by the British Royal Navy. For years ablative, copper based
bottom paint has been used on both large ships and recreational boats
but there is now a push to ban it's use due to environmental concerns.


Copper is what's sticking out of my wall under the toilet, therefore copper will be used. I'm not
changing any plumbing lines, that's for damn sure!

May not have to change anything. Turned the valve handle in a ways and noticed the leak reduced.
Turned it in a tad more and haven't had a drop come out in more than 12 hours.

Yippee.


I know how you feel. I despise having to do anything related to
plumbing. Electrical, no problem but I usually break more than I fix
when trying to work on plumbing.

The last time I called a plumber, maybe ten years ago, my basement had flooded. The sump pump was
not working and we'd had lots of rain. The plumber said the pump had burned up because it was
running constantly, and the reason was because I had a broken water main coming from the street. The
water was supposedly seeping under the house and coming into the sump. He gave me an estimate in the
$10K range to put in a new main.

Luckily I called the county water guys, thinking it might be *their* pipe leaking out by the
sidewalk. County guy came out, put something on the valve out by the street, and pronounced no leak
anywhere.

I spent $129 on a new sump pump and the problem's history.

But I have an immense distrust of plumbers now.

On 2/24/2014 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 23:27:06 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/23/2014 11:51 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
...in my house is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrvU4mAszI

I despise plumbing.


They are expensive, but for one or two quick connections take a look at
"shark bite" fittings... They work with copper or plastic, great for
places where sweating a pipe or a wrench are not easy to get to...

Most of the plumbing down here is plastic.
Florida water eats metal


Yup, SharkBites are made for plastic but work for metal.... I did my
whole house in plastic a few years ago..

On 2/24/2014 10:31 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 04:02:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/24/2014 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 23:27:06 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/23/2014 11:51 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
...in my house is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrvU4mAszI

I despise plumbing.


They are expensive, but for one or two quick connections take a look at
"shark bite" fittings... They work with copper or plastic, great for
places where sweating a pipe or a wrench are not easy to get to...

Most of the plumbing down here is plastic.
Florida water eats metal



I have no idea what the current codes are but I know PVC and other types
of plastic water lines used in the supply side for water used for
consumption remains controversial. Copper water pipes are naturally
anti-microbial preventing bacteria growth within them. PVC is not.

Due to it's anti-microbial and anti-fouling properties, copper has been
used since the 18th century as an anti-fouling agent on boat hulls. The
USS Constitution's hull is covered by copper sheathing which was first
implemented by the British Royal Navy. For years ablative, copper based
bottom paint has been used on both large ships and recreational boats
but there is now a push to ban it's use due to environmental concerns.


If you house was plumbed with copper more than about 10-15 years ago
it was put together with lead solder and that comes with it's own
warnings.

At a certain point we all die of something and contaminated water from
your plumbing method does not even make the list.




Look up "Pex Pipe", that's what I have running all over my house... Like
I said, "they are expensive and you don't want to do you whole house",
then you said "they are expensive and you don't want to do the whole
house"

On 2/24/2014 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:39:06 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/24/2014 10:31 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 04:02:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/24/2014 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 23:27:06 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/23/2014 11:51 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
...in my house is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrvU4mAszI

I despise plumbing.


They are expensive, but for one or two quick connections take a look at
"shark bite" fittings... They work with copper or plastic, great for
places where sweating a pipe or a wrench are not easy to get to...

Most of the plumbing down here is plastic.
Florida water eats metal



I have no idea what the current codes are but I know PVC and other types
of plastic water lines used in the supply side for water used for
consumption remains controversial. Copper water pipes are naturally
anti-microbial preventing bacteria growth within them. PVC is not.

Due to it's anti-microbial and anti-fouling properties, copper has been
used since the 18th century as an anti-fouling agent on boat hulls. The
USS Constitution's hull is covered by copper sheathing which was first
implemented by the British Royal Navy. For years ablative, copper based
bottom paint has been used on both large ships and recreational boats
but there is now a push to ban it's use due to environmental concerns.


If you house was plumbed with copper more than about 10-15 years ago
it was put together with lead solder and that comes with it's own
warnings.

At a certain point we all die of something and contaminated water from
your plumbing method does not even make the list.




Look up "Pex Pipe", that's what I have running all over my house... Like
I said, "they are expensive and you don't want to do you whole house",
then you said "they are expensive and you don't want to do the whole
house"

A rare case of agreement on Rec.Boats ;-)

Do you have the good crimp ring tool for the Pex?

If I was replumbing the whole house I would certainly think about that
method. My neighbor has it in his house and everything home runs back
to a "manablock" with a separate valve for each run so he can
selectively turn off the water to each fixture.


I used the push on ones in exposed areas. The way I set my house up I
have separate runs for different areas of the house, not as fancy as the
pics on google but I know where to turn what off if I need to. This came
in real handy last week when I had to winterize the house in the freeze
after kicking the deadbeats out....

From the floor to the fixtures though, I still go Copper, mostly cause
I like to have a solid mount shutoff under sinks and stuff...

LIke I said, the best thing is if I left any water in the system, it
shouldn't break any pipes....

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:36:14 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 07:13:22 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 04:02:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 23:27:06 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/23/2014 11:51 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
...in my house is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrvU4mAszI

I despise plumbing.


They are expensive, but for one or two quick connections take a look at
"shark bite" fittings... They work with copper or plastic, great for
places where sweating a pipe or a wrench are not easy to get to...

Most of the plumbing down here is plastic.
Florida water eats metal



I have no idea what the current codes are but I know PVC and other types
of plastic water lines used in the supply side for water used for
consumption remains controversial. Copper water pipes are naturally
anti-microbial preventing bacteria growth within them. PVC is not.

Due to it's anti-microbial and anti-fouling properties, copper has been
used since the 18th century as an anti-fouling agent on boat hulls. The
USS Constitution's hull is covered by copper sheathing which was first
implemented by the British Royal Navy. For years ablative, copper based
bottom paint has been used on both large ships and recreational boats
but there is now a push to ban it's use due to environmental concerns.


Copper is what's sticking out of my wall under the toilet, therefore copper will be used. I'm not
changing any plumbing lines, that's for damn sure!

May not have to change anything. Turned the valve handle in a ways and noticed the leak reduced.
Turned it in a tad more and haven't had a drop come out in more than 12 hours.

Yippee.

They do make a compression angle stop that is pretty easy to put over
the pipe if there is enough sticking out after you cut the old one
off. If it is just leaking around the stem, you should be able to
replace the packing if the cap nut will move and you can get the
handle off. They sell a foot or so in a bubble pack at any
hardware/home store.
.

They (Taiwan) also make a puller for the compression nut and ring so I wouldn't have to cut the
pipe. A friend, who also does plumbing on the side, told me they don't work very well, but I can
always take it back to Home Depot if it doesn't work.

But, I'm up to about 20 hours and still no leak.