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On 2/8/14, 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. It appears as if you are trying to extrapolate universal truths from your limited, individual experiences with painkillers. Perhaps *you* didn't feel a "high," or perhaps your "high" was masked by pain, or perhaps not. But for you to state that if a person is feeling a "high" from taking a pain killer, then they don't need the painkiller or that they are taking more than necessary, has little if any basis in science. |
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On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 10:27:54 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/8/14, 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. It appears as if you are trying to extrapolate universal truths from your limited, individual experiences with painkillers. Perhaps *you* didn't feel a "high," or perhaps your "high" was masked by pain, or perhaps not. But for you to state that if a person is feeling a "high" from taking a pain killer, then they don't need the painkiller or that they are taking more than necessary, has little if any basis in science. Harry, perhaps you could read my paragraph. I think you'll find the words 'I' and 'I think' there. I gave my opinion, and I didn't state what you said I stated. |
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On 2/8/14, 10:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 10:27:54 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/8/14, 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. It appears as if you are trying to extrapolate universal truths from your limited, individual experiences with painkillers. Perhaps *you* didn't feel a "high," or perhaps your "high" was masked by pain, or perhaps not. But for you to state that if a person is feeling a "high" from taking a pain killer, then they don't need the painkiller or that they are taking more than necessary, has little if any basis in science. Harry, perhaps you could read my paragraph. I think you'll find the words 'I' and 'I think' there. I gave my opinion, and I didn't state what you said I stated. You stated exactly what I quoted. |
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On 2/8/2014 10:27 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/8/14, 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. It appears as if you are trying to extrapolate universal truths from your limited, individual experiences with painkillers. Perhaps *you* didn't feel a "high," or perhaps your "high" was masked by pain, or perhaps not. But for you to state that if a person is feeling a "high" from taking a pain killer, then they don't need the painkiller or that they are taking more than necessary, has little if any basis in science. I took one oxycontin pill following oral surgery. The next morning I flushed the rest of them down the toilet. I was in some degree of pain but I sure didn't like the spaced out feeling that one little pill gave me. I am not exactly a small person either. |
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On 2/8/14, 12:43 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/8/2014 10:27 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/8/14, 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. It appears as if you are trying to extrapolate universal truths from your limited, individual experiences with painkillers. Perhaps *you* didn't feel a "high," or perhaps your "high" was masked by pain, or perhaps not. But for you to state that if a person is feeling a "high" from taking a pain killer, then they don't need the painkiller or that they are taking more than necessary, has little if any basis in science. I took one oxycontin pill following oral surgery. The next morning I flushed the rest of them down the toilet. I was in some degree of pain but I sure didn't like the spaced out feeling that one little pill gave me. I am not exactly a small person either. I had a similar experience the one time I took a percodan. Didn't like how I felt, switched to plain old aspirin. |
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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/8/2014 10:27 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/8/14, 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. It appears as if you are trying to extrapolate universal truths from your limited, individual experiences with painkillers. Perhaps *you* didn't feel a "high," or perhaps your "high" was masked by pain, or perhaps not. But for you to state that if a person is feeling a "high" from taking a pain killer, then they don't need the painkiller or that they are taking more than necessary, has little if any basis in science. I took one oxycontin pill following oral surgery. The next morning I flushed the rest of them down the toilet. I was in some degree of pain but I sure didn't like the spaced out feeling that one little pill gave me. I am not exactly a small person either. Do not flush drugs down the toilet! Take to the police station or other drug drop off points. Contaminates the water supply. How much of this girls having periods at 9 years old, or even the ADD from the estrogens and other crap in the water. |
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On 2/8/2014 2:48 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2014 10:27 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/8/14, 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. It appears as if you are trying to extrapolate universal truths from your limited, individual experiences with painkillers. Perhaps *you* didn't feel a "high," or perhaps your "high" was masked by pain, or perhaps not. But for you to state that if a person is feeling a "high" from taking a pain killer, then they don't need the painkiller or that they are taking more than necessary, has little if any basis in science. I took one oxycontin pill following oral surgery. The next morning I flushed the rest of them down the toilet. I was in some degree of pain but I sure didn't like the spaced out feeling that one little pill gave me. I am not exactly a small person either. Do not flush drugs down the toilet! Take to the police station or other drug drop off points. Contaminates the water supply. How much of this girls having periods at 9 years old, or even the ADD from the estrogens and other crap in the water. Never thought of that. But I really wonder how much 9 pills flushed into a 2500 gallon holding tank and then eventually leached into a leaching field can contaminate the water supply. If it does, the whole concept of a septic system is questionable to start with. |
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On 2/8/2014 6:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/8/2014 2:48 PM, Califbill wrote: "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2014 10:27 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/8/14, 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. It appears as if you are trying to extrapolate universal truths from your limited, individual experiences with painkillers. Perhaps *you* didn't feel a "high," or perhaps your "high" was masked by pain, or perhaps not. But for you to state that if a person is feeling a "high" from taking a pain killer, then they don't need the painkiller or that they are taking more than necessary, has little if any basis in science. I took one oxycontin pill following oral surgery. The next morning I flushed the rest of them down the toilet. I was in some degree of pain but I sure didn't like the spaced out feeling that one little pill gave me. I am not exactly a small person either. Do not flush drugs down the toilet! Take to the police station or other drug drop off points. Contaminates the water supply. How much of this girls having periods at 9 years old, or even the ADD from the estrogens and other crap in the water. Never thought of that. But I really wonder how much 9 pills flushed into a 2500 gallon holding tank and then eventually leached into a leaching field can contaminate the water supply. If it does, the whole concept of a septic system is questionable to start with. Yup.. Same here... |
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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/8/2014 2:48 PM, Califbill wrote: "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2014 10:27 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/8/14, 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. It appears as if you are trying to extrapolate universal truths from your limited, individual experiences with painkillers. Perhaps *you* didn't feel a "high," or perhaps your "high" was masked by pain, or perhaps not. But for you to state that if a person is feeling a "high" from taking a pain killer, then they don't need the painkiller or that they are taking more than necessary, has little if any basis in science. I took one oxycontin pill following oral surgery. The next morning I flushed the rest of them down the toilet. I was in some degree of pain but I sure didn't like the spaced out feeling that one little pill gave me. I am not exactly a small person either. Do not flush drugs down the toilet! Take to the police station or other drug drop off points. Contaminates the water supply. How much of this girls having periods at 9 years old, or even the ADD from the estrogens and other crap in the water. Never thought of that. But I really wonder how much 9 pills flushed into a 2500 gallon holding tank and then eventually leached into a leaching field can contaminate the water supply. If it does, the whole concept of a septic system is questionable to start with. It is actually a major problem in a lot of places. Do not know how much from a septic system gets in to the water supply. The drugs seem to not be filtered out even in municipal water systems. And those 6 drugs multiplied by 300+ million consumers is a lot of drugs. |
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