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On 2/7/2014 4:56 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... And they eventually turn to heroin as it's *much* cheaper. |
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On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote:
On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. |
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On 2/8/2014 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. That may be your personal experience... My daughter was give a tylenol three which is probably 1/10th the opiate of an Oxycontin. She is a pro athelete and a few days ago because of this discussion we were talking about it... She is scared to death to take another one, almost a year later she swears she still craves that feeling... |
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On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 08:47:44 -0500, KC wrote:
On 2/8/2014 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. That may be your personal experience... My daughter was give a tylenol three which is probably 1/10th the opiate of an Oxycontin. She is a pro athelete and a few days ago because of this discussion we were talking about it... She is scared to death to take another one, almost a year later she swears she still craves that feeling... My guess would be that she was over prescribed for the pain. Probably should have taken the tyleno without the codeine. |
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On 2/8/2014 9:10 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 08:47:44 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/8/2014 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. That may be your personal experience... My daughter was give a tylenol three which is probably 1/10th the opiate of an Oxycontin. She is a pro athelete and a few days ago because of this discussion we were talking about it... She is scared to death to take another one, almost a year later she swears she still craves that feeling... My guess would be that she was over prescribed for the pain. Probably should have taken the tyleno without the codeine. Are you kidding me? Your guess would be wrong... I won't get into the details... |
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On 2/8/14, 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. It appears as if you are trying to extrapolate universal truths from your limited, individual experiences with painkillers. Perhaps *you* didn't feel a "high," or perhaps your "high" was masked by pain, or perhaps not. But for you to state that if a person is feeling a "high" from taking a pain killer, then they don't need the painkiller or that they are taking more than necessary, has little if any basis in science. |
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On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 10:27:54 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/8/14, 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. It appears as if you are trying to extrapolate universal truths from your limited, individual experiences with painkillers. Perhaps *you* didn't feel a "high," or perhaps your "high" was masked by pain, or perhaps not. But for you to state that if a person is feeling a "high" from taking a pain killer, then they don't need the painkiller or that they are taking more than necessary, has little if any basis in science. Harry, perhaps you could read my paragraph. I think you'll find the words 'I' and 'I think' there. I gave my opinion, and I didn't state what you said I stated. |
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On 2/8/14, 10:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 10:27:54 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/8/14, 7:47 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:56:36 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/7/2014 3:41 PM, wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:28:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That's not the problem. The problem is with much more dangerous and addictive opiates. The most pervasive opiates these days come from doctors and drug companies They say you can get addicted by doing one oxy... I have seen it, it's a fact... That could be, if the person gets a little buzz, likes it, and keeps taking it. I've had both the oxy's contin and codone recently. If actually taken for the pain, there isn't a 'high' that goes along with it, just a reduction in pain. I think if a person is feeling a 'high', then either they don't need the pain killer, or they're taking more than necessary. It appears as if you are trying to extrapolate universal truths from your limited, individual experiences with painkillers. Perhaps *you* didn't feel a "high," or perhaps your "high" was masked by pain, or perhaps not. But for you to state that if a person is feeling a "high" from taking a pain killer, then they don't need the painkiller or that they are taking more than necessary, has little if any basis in science. Harry, perhaps you could read my paragraph. I think you'll find the words 'I' and 'I think' there. I gave my opinion, and I didn't state what you said I stated. You stated exactly what I quoted. |
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