"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/3/14, 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:04:24 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

Maybe I'll stick with XP even after the support stops.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...are-in-january

Microsoft has not given their business users any compelling reason to
switch.
If your mission is not significantly changing, why should you change
your hardware and software?
99% of all real business applications ran just fine on Windows 3.1 on
a 396. If you are just doing bookkeeping, inventory and point of sale,
you don't need that much computing power.
All of these flashy graphics do not actually add much to the average
business man's operation.
Hardware is pretty stagnant these days so I am not really sure why
they need a different OS.



Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and its
price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to put
Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to waste the money.


Mavericks is a lot more expensive than $0.00! You have paid at least 30%
more for the hardware.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:

Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and its
price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to put
Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to waste the money.


True, Mavericks was a free upgrade but not without some disappointments.
It will not run some popular programs that previous versions of the
Apple OSX ran.

An example is Pro-Tools 9. I had a brand new, unopened box with
Pro-Tools that I was looking forward to installing in the iMac once I
became familiar with it. Pro-Tools is a professional grade audio
recording software package.

Pro-Tools isn't cheap. The current version is $699. I decided to
install my copy only to find out that Mavericks (which I upgraded to a
month ago) won't run it. My options are to revert back to the older,
10.8.5 OSX (whatever they called it) or go out and purchase the newer
version.

I'll stick with the full Garage Band for now.

That all said though, I like the iMac. Nice display and is faster for
some of the things I like to do with audio and video. For many purposes
though I still think it's an overgrown, high priced iPhone. :-)

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:

Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and its
price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to put
Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to waste the money.


True, Mavericks was a free upgrade but not without some disappointments.
It will not run some popular programs that previous versions of the Apple OSX ran.

An example is Pro-Tools 9. I had a brand new, unopened box with
Pro-Tools that I was looking forward to installing in the iMac once I
became familiar with it. Pro-Tools is a professional grade audio
recording software package.

Pro-Tools isn't cheap. The current version is $699. I decided to install
my copy only to find out that Mavericks (which I upgraded to a month ago)
won't run it. My options are to revert back to the older, 10.8.5 OSX
(whatever they called it) or go out and purchase the newer version.

I'll stick with the full Garage Band for now.

That all said though, I like the iMac. Nice display and is faster for
some of the things I like to do with audio and video. For many purposes
though I still think it's an overgrown, high priced iPhone. :-)

Well you can make phone calls with it. 😄

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:

Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and its
price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to put
Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to waste the money.


True, Mavericks was a free upgrade but not without some disappointments.
It will not run some popular programs that previous versions of the Apple OSX ran.

An example is Pro-Tools 9. I had a brand new, unopened box with
Pro-Tools that I was looking forward to installing in the iMac once I
became familiar with it. Pro-Tools is a professional grade audio
recording software package.

Pro-Tools isn't cheap. The current version is $699. I decided to install
my copy only to find out that Mavericks (which I upgraded to a month ago)
won't run it. My options are to revert back to the older, 10.8.5 OSX
(whatever they called it) or go out and purchase the newer version.

I'll stick with the full Garage Band for now.

That all said though, I like the iMac. Nice display and is faster for
some of the things I like to do with audio and video. For many purposes
though I still think it's an overgrown, high priced iPhone. :-)

There isn't one windoze app I used to use that I haven't found a better
replacement for on my macs. Even the Mac version of ms office suite runs
better. The photo apps are better. The big database manager I use is
better. I am sure there are better windoze apps out there but I don't use
them.

F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:

Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and its
price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to put
Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to waste the money.


True, Mavericks was a free upgrade but not without some disappointments.
It will not run some popular programs that previous versions of the Apple OSX ran.

An example is Pro-Tools 9. I had a brand new, unopened box with
Pro-Tools that I was looking forward to installing in the iMac once I
became familiar with it. Pro-Tools is a professional grade audio
recording software package.

Pro-Tools isn't cheap. The current version is $699. I decided to install
my copy only to find out that Mavericks (which I upgraded to a month ago)
won't run it. My options are to revert back to the older, 10.8.5 OSX
(whatever they called it) or go out and purchase the newer version.

I'll stick with the full Garage Band for now.

That all said though, I like the iMac. Nice display and is faster for
some of the things I like to do with audio and video. For many purposes
though I still think it's an overgrown, high priced iPhone. :-)

There isn't one windoze app I used to use that I haven't found a better
replacement for on my macs. Even the Mac version of ms office suite runs
better. The photo apps are better. The big database manager I use is
better. I am sure there are better windoze apps out there but I don't use
them.

P.s. My new Mac is "preparing for shipment" but from where I don't know.
Could be china, the USA, or Ireland .

On 2/3/2014 7:20 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:

Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and its
price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to put
Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to waste the money.


True, Mavericks was a free upgrade but not without some disappointments.
It will not run some popular programs that previous versions of the Apple OSX ran.

An example is Pro-Tools 9. I had a brand new, unopened box with
Pro-Tools that I was looking forward to installing in the iMac once I
became familiar with it. Pro-Tools is a professional grade audio
recording software package.

Pro-Tools isn't cheap. The current version is $699. I decided to install
my copy only to find out that Mavericks (which I upgraded to a month ago)
won't run it. My options are to revert back to the older, 10.8.5 OSX
(whatever they called it) or go out and purchase the newer version.

I'll stick with the full Garage Band for now.

That all said though, I like the iMac. Nice display and is faster for
some of the things I like to do with audio and video. For many purposes
though I still think it's an overgrown, high priced iPhone. :-)

There isn't one windoze app I used to use that I haven't found a better
replacement for on my macs. Even the Mac version of ms office suite runs
better. The photo apps are better. The big database manager I use is
better. I am sure there are better windoze apps out there but I don't use
them.

P.s. My new Mac is "preparing for shipment" but from where I don't know.
Could be china, the USA, or Ireland .


When Mrs.E. bought the iMac for me she also bought the MS Office Suite.
I haven't installed it yet. She also bought one for herself and
installed it on her iMac.

My next purchase will be a decent printer. I've had no need for one for
years. Anything I needed to print I would just send to my wife and she'd
print it on her laser printer. However, I have been recently retained
to do some consulting work related to the business I was in and will
need to get a printer. Her laser printer is not wireless, (I don't
think) so I can't use it on the home network. I should check that though.

I noticed most people now are using Adobe PDF files for most things.
All the communications and documents I've received so far from the
company I am working with use it. I noticed you can now subscribe to
it's use for something like $19/mo. Might do that rather than buy the
software.

On 2/3/14, 7:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/3/2014 7:20 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:

Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and
its
price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to
put
Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to
waste the money.


True, Mavericks was a free upgrade but not without some
disappointments.
It will not run some popular programs that previous versions of the
Apple OSX ran.

An example is Pro-Tools 9. I had a brand new, unopened box with
Pro-Tools that I was looking forward to installing in the iMac once I
became familiar with it. Pro-Tools is a professional grade audio
recording software package.

Pro-Tools isn't cheap. The current version is $699. I decided to
install
my copy only to find out that Mavericks (which I upgraded to a month
ago)
won't run it. My options are to revert back to the older, 10.8.5 OSX
(whatever they called it) or go out and purchase the newer version.

I'll stick with the full Garage Band for now.

That all said though, I like the iMac. Nice display and is faster for
some of the things I like to do with audio and video. For many
purposes
though I still think it's an overgrown, high priced iPhone. :-)

There isn't one windoze app I used to use that I haven't found a better
replacement for on my macs. Even the Mac version of ms office suite runs
better. The photo apps are better. The big database manager I use is
better. I am sure there are better windoze apps out there but I don't
use
them.

P.s. My new Mac is "preparing for shipment" but from where I don't know.
Could be china, the USA, or Ireland .


When Mrs.E. bought the iMac for me she also bought the MS Office Suite.
I haven't installed it yet. She also bought one for herself and
installed it on her iMac.

My next purchase will be a decent printer. I've had no need for one for
years. Anything I needed to print I would just send to my wife and she'd
print it on her laser printer. However, I have been recently retained
to do some consulting work related to the business I was in and will
need to get a printer. Her laser printer is not wireless, (I don't
think) so I can't use it on the home network. I should check that though.

I noticed most people now are using Adobe PDF files for most things. All
the communications and documents I've received so far from the company I
am working with use it. I noticed you can now subscribe to it's use
for something like $19/mo. Might do that rather than buy the software.




Brother has some decent and really inexpensive laser printers.

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 19:44:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Her laser printer is not wireless, (I don't
think) so I can't use it on the home network. I should check that though.

===

As long as her computer is on the network, and as long as her printer
is capable of being defined as a "network printer", it should work
fine. You just have to go through the "add printer" process and look
for it on the network. I use my wife's printer like that all the
time. On the other hand, printers have gotten really cheap and you'll
find it more convenient to have your own if you use it a lot.

On 2/3/2014 7:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/3/2014 7:20 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:

Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and
its
price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to
put
Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to
waste the money.


True, Mavericks was a free upgrade but not without some
disappointments.
It will not run some popular programs that previous versions of the
Apple OSX ran.

An example is Pro-Tools 9. I had a brand new, unopened box with
Pro-Tools that I was looking forward to installing in the iMac once I
became familiar with it. Pro-Tools is a professional grade audio
recording software package.

Pro-Tools isn't cheap. The current version is $699. I decided to
install
my copy only to find out that Mavericks (which I upgraded to a month
ago)
won't run it. My options are to revert back to the older, 10.8.5 OSX
(whatever they called it) or go out and purchase the newer version.

I'll stick with the full Garage Band for now.

That all said though, I like the iMac. Nice display and is faster for
some of the things I like to do with audio and video. For many
purposes
though I still think it's an overgrown, high priced iPhone. :-)

There isn't one windoze app I used to use that I haven't found a better
replacement for on my macs. Even the Mac version of ms office suite runs
better. The photo apps are better. The big database manager I use is
better. I am sure there are better windoze apps out there but I don't
use
them.

P.s. My new Mac is "preparing for shipment" but from where I don't know.
Could be china, the USA, or Ireland .


When Mrs.E. bought the iMac for me she also bought the MS Office Suite.
I haven't installed it yet. She also bought one for herself and
installed it on her iMac.

My next purchase will be a decent printer. I've had no need for one for
years. Anything I needed to print I would just send to my wife and she'd
print it on her laser printer. However, I have been recently retained
to do some consulting work related to the business I was in and will
need to get a printer. Her laser printer is not wireless, (I don't
think) so I can't use it on the home network. I should check that though.

I noticed most people now are using Adobe PDF files for most things. All
the communications and documents I've received so far from the company I
am working with use it. I noticed you can now subscribe to it's use
for something like $19/mo. Might do that rather than buy the software.





PDF's for sure.. As to writing them Kingsoft does it I think I will
check. Our printer is a Brother, it's wireless and we found ink on
Amazon for about 4 dollars a cartridge.. Yes, not a misprint... It is a
workhorse, scans, copies, etc...

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 19:44:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/3/2014 7:20 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
F.O.A.D. wrote:
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My next purchase will be a decent printer. I've had no need for one for
years. Anything I needed to print I would just send to my wife and she'd
print it on her laser printer. However, I have been recently retained
to do some consulting work related to the business I was in and will
need to get a printer. Her laser printer is not wireless, (I don't
think) so I can't use it on the home network. I should check that though.

I noticed most people now are using Adobe PDF files for most things.
All the communications and documents I've received so far from the
company I am working with use it. I noticed you can now subscribe to
it's use for something like $19/mo. Might do that rather than buy the
software.

Got this for Christmas:

http://tinyurl.com/kffxlzj

Here's what Consumer Reports had to say about it:

CR's Take
For an all-in-one black-and-while laser printer, this Samsung is not only cheap to buy, but it's
also inexpensive to operate and print. It's a bit short on features, but it has outstanding overall
performance.
Highs
• Excellent text quality
• Very fast printing black text
• Very good monochrome graphics quality
• Excellent copy quality
• Auto feeder can scan or copy a stack of pages
Lows
• Less versatile than most
Detailed test results
PRINTING. The Samsung SCX-3405FW prints using laser technology, which picks up powdered 'toner' on a
roller and fuses it to the paper with heat. It prints black-and-white text with excellent quality,
as we've come to expect from a laser printer. Text printing was very quick, 12 pages per minute,
costing 4.4 cents per page. Its black-and-white graphics printing is very good for reports,
newsletters and web pages.
SCANNING and COPYING. Scanning performance was very good, fine for general-purpose scanning. Copying
performance was excellent, producing copies very close to the original. There's an automatic
document feeder to let you copy or scan a stack of pages in one operation.
CONTROLS and DISPLAY. The printer has no display screen.
CONNECTIVITY and NETWORKING. You can connect directly to a PC with a USB cable, or to your network
router either wirelessly with Wi-Fi or with an Ethernet cable. This model has built-in faxing, can
store incoming faxes if the paper runs out, and can send faxes from an attached PC. You can print
directly from smart phones and tablets (Android apps or Apple AirPrint) over your Wi-Fi network.