On 2/3/2014 7:18 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/3/2014 6:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 3, 2014 4:42:59 PM UTC-6, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,

says...





What is a 'hard reset'?



When you have to power off your PC because it doesn't respond to

keyboard or mouse input.

I've had to do that with my old box. even unplugged it for a day. That helped.


Just needed a rest after a hard fought debate with Harry. :-)

You want a tonic?


Funny you said that because a friend and I were just discussing "tonic".
Growing up here in MA it was almost always used to refer to a soft
drink like Coke or Pepsi but it's use seems to be fading with younger
generations. If I asked a 14 year old or even a 20 year old if they
wanted "tonic" they wouldn't know what I was talking about.

"Soda" or "Pop" hasn't caught on though as used in most parts of the
country. The soft drinks up here are now referred to by name, i.e.
"I'll have a Pepsi" or "Coke" or whatever.

On 2/3/2014 7:20 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:

Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and its
price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to put
Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to waste the money.


True, Mavericks was a free upgrade but not without some disappointments.
It will not run some popular programs that previous versions of the Apple OSX ran.

An example is Pro-Tools 9. I had a brand new, unopened box with
Pro-Tools that I was looking forward to installing in the iMac once I
became familiar with it. Pro-Tools is a professional grade audio
recording software package.

Pro-Tools isn't cheap. The current version is $699. I decided to install
my copy only to find out that Mavericks (which I upgraded to a month ago)
won't run it. My options are to revert back to the older, 10.8.5 OSX
(whatever they called it) or go out and purchase the newer version.

I'll stick with the full Garage Band for now.

That all said though, I like the iMac. Nice display and is faster for
some of the things I like to do with audio and video. For many purposes
though I still think it's an overgrown, high priced iPhone. :-)

There isn't one windoze app I used to use that I haven't found a better
replacement for on my macs. Even the Mac version of ms office suite runs
better. The photo apps are better. The big database manager I use is
better. I am sure there are better windoze apps out there but I don't use
them.

P.s. My new Mac is "preparing for shipment" but from where I don't know.
Could be china, the USA, or Ireland .


When Mrs.E. bought the iMac for me she also bought the MS Office Suite.
I haven't installed it yet. She also bought one for herself and
installed it on her iMac.

My next purchase will be a decent printer. I've had no need for one for
years. Anything I needed to print I would just send to my wife and she'd
print it on her laser printer. However, I have been recently retained
to do some consulting work related to the business I was in and will
need to get a printer. Her laser printer is not wireless, (I don't
think) so I can't use it on the home network. I should check that though.

I noticed most people now are using Adobe PDF files for most things.
All the communications and documents I've received so far from the
company I am working with use it. I noticed you can now subscribe to
it's use for something like $19/mo. Might do that rather than buy the
software.

On 2/3/14, 7:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/3/2014 7:20 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:

Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and
its
price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to
put
Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to
waste the money.


True, Mavericks was a free upgrade but not without some
disappointments.
It will not run some popular programs that previous versions of the
Apple OSX ran.

An example is Pro-Tools 9. I had a brand new, unopened box with
Pro-Tools that I was looking forward to installing in the iMac once I
became familiar with it. Pro-Tools is a professional grade audio
recording software package.

Pro-Tools isn't cheap. The current version is $699. I decided to
install
my copy only to find out that Mavericks (which I upgraded to a month
ago)
won't run it. My options are to revert back to the older, 10.8.5 OSX
(whatever they called it) or go out and purchase the newer version.

I'll stick with the full Garage Band for now.

That all said though, I like the iMac. Nice display and is faster for
some of the things I like to do with audio and video. For many
purposes
though I still think it's an overgrown, high priced iPhone. :-)

There isn't one windoze app I used to use that I haven't found a better
replacement for on my macs. Even the Mac version of ms office suite runs
better. The photo apps are better. The big database manager I use is
better. I am sure there are better windoze apps out there but I don't
use
them.

P.s. My new Mac is "preparing for shipment" but from where I don't know.
Could be china, the USA, or Ireland .


When Mrs.E. bought the iMac for me she also bought the MS Office Suite.
I haven't installed it yet. She also bought one for herself and
installed it on her iMac.

My next purchase will be a decent printer. I've had no need for one for
years. Anything I needed to print I would just send to my wife and she'd
print it on her laser printer. However, I have been recently retained
to do some consulting work related to the business I was in and will
need to get a printer. Her laser printer is not wireless, (I don't
think) so I can't use it on the home network. I should check that though.

I noticed most people now are using Adobe PDF files for most things. All
the communications and documents I've received so far from the company I
am working with use it. I noticed you can now subscribe to it's use
for something like $19/mo. Might do that rather than buy the software.




Brother has some decent and really inexpensive laser printers.

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 19:44:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Her laser printer is not wireless, (I don't
think) so I can't use it on the home network. I should check that though.

===

As long as her computer is on the network, and as long as her printer
is capable of being defined as a "network printer", it should work
fine. You just have to go through the "add printer" process and look
for it on the network. I use my wife's printer like that all the
time. On the other hand, printers have gotten really cheap and you'll
find it more convenient to have your own if you use it a lot.

On 2/3/14, 9:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 17:18:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/3/14, 2:49 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 11:49:45 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/3/14, 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:04:24 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

Maybe I'll stick with XP even after the support stops.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...are-in-january

Microsoft has not given their business users any compelling reason to
switch.
If your mission is not significantly changing, why should you change
your hardware and software?
99% of all real business applications ran just fine on Windows 3.1 on
a 396. If you are just doing bookkeeping, inventory and point of sale,
you don't need that much computing power.
All of these flashy graphics do not actually add much to the average
business man's operation.
Hardware is pretty stagnant these days so I am not really sure why
they need a different OS.



Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and its
price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to put
Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to waste
the money.

The OS is not free, it is just bundled into the overpriced hardware.
IBM did the same thing with the System 360, all the software was free
including on site support ... until LBJ sued them over it.

Apple gets away with it because they are still a small player.



Apple is giving away its OS to users with five and six year old
computers. It's hardly bundled for those users. Oh, and I recently
perused the web pages of two large Windoze computer suppliers for a
laptop similar to mine and a desktop similar to what I ordered. There
was less than $100 price difference either way, and what I saw from Dell
and HP were rather clunky desktops or all in ones and laptops that are
two generations behind in design. And of course, they run Windoze.

So you are saying that if I cobbled up a machine from parts that would
run the Apple OS they would give it to me?

Yeah, you seem like a hackintosh kinda guy.

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

F.O.A.D. wrote:
F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:

Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and its
price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to put
Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to waste the money.


True, Mavericks was a free upgrade but not without some disappointments.
It will not run some popular programs that previous versions of the Apple OSX ran.

An example is Pro-Tools 9. I had a brand new, unopened box with
Pro-Tools that I was looking forward to installing in the iMac once I
became familiar with it. Pro-Tools is a professional grade audio
recording software package.

Pro-Tools isn't cheap. The current version is $699. I decided to install
my copy only to find out that Mavericks (which I upgraded to a month ago)
won't run it. My options are to revert back to the older, 10.8.5 OSX
(whatever they called it) or go out and purchase the newer version.

I'll stick with the full Garage Band for now.

That all said though, I like the iMac. Nice display and is faster for
some of the things I like to do with audio and video. For many purposes
though I still think it's an overgrown, high priced iPhone. :-)

There isn't one windoze app I used to use that I haven't found a better
replacement for on my macs. Even the Mac version of ms office suite runs
better. The photo apps are better. The big database manager I use is
better. I am sure there are better windoze apps out there but I don't use
them.

P.s. My new Mac is "preparing for shipment" but from where I don't know.
Could be china, the USA, or Ireland .

USA assembly...from apple facility in California .

In article ,
says...


If there is one thing I really miss from DOS and W/3.x it is that we
lost the RAM drive capability. At a certain point you get better
performance using RAM to cache your hard drive than to just give it to
the OS to use. That is particularly true in a data intensive
application like dBase.

You can use a RAM disk with Win 7.
No real reason to, but there it is.

On 2/3/2014 7:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/3/2014 7:20 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:

Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and
its
price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to
put
Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to
waste the money.


True, Mavericks was a free upgrade but not without some
disappointments.
It will not run some popular programs that previous versions of the
Apple OSX ran.

An example is Pro-Tools 9. I had a brand new, unopened box with
Pro-Tools that I was looking forward to installing in the iMac once I
became familiar with it. Pro-Tools is a professional grade audio
recording software package.

Pro-Tools isn't cheap. The current version is $699. I decided to
install
my copy only to find out that Mavericks (which I upgraded to a month
ago)
won't run it. My options are to revert back to the older, 10.8.5 OSX
(whatever they called it) or go out and purchase the newer version.

I'll stick with the full Garage Band for now.

That all said though, I like the iMac. Nice display and is faster for
some of the things I like to do with audio and video. For many
purposes
though I still think it's an overgrown, high priced iPhone. :-)

There isn't one windoze app I used to use that I haven't found a better
replacement for on my macs. Even the Mac version of ms office suite runs
better. The photo apps are better. The big database manager I use is
better. I am sure there are better windoze apps out there but I don't
use
them.

P.s. My new Mac is "preparing for shipment" but from where I don't know.
Could be china, the USA, or Ireland .


When Mrs.E. bought the iMac for me she also bought the MS Office Suite.
I haven't installed it yet. She also bought one for herself and
installed it on her iMac.

My next purchase will be a decent printer. I've had no need for one for
years. Anything I needed to print I would just send to my wife and she'd
print it on her laser printer. However, I have been recently retained
to do some consulting work related to the business I was in and will
need to get a printer. Her laser printer is not wireless, (I don't
think) so I can't use it on the home network. I should check that though.

I noticed most people now are using Adobe PDF files for most things. All
the communications and documents I've received so far from the company I
am working with use it. I noticed you can now subscribe to it's use
for something like $19/mo. Might do that rather than buy the software.





PDF's for sure.. As to writing them Kingsoft does it I think I will
check. Our printer is a Brother, it's wireless and we found ink on
Amazon for about 4 dollars a cartridge.. Yes, not a misprint... It is a
workhorse, scans, copies, etc...

On 2/3/2014 9:54 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:42:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


What is a 'hard reset'?

When you have to power off your PC because it doesn't respond to
keyboard or mouse input.

I can't remember the last time I had to do that on XP. It was not
uncommon on W/98 but usually when you were screwing with new hardware
and drivers.
I just loaded a W/98 machine Saturday. I had one of those.
It turned out to be a bad, on board LAN adapter.
I just plugged in a card and epoxied a blank RJ45 in the board hole so
I would not forget ... again. ;-)
It is my new MP3 player.

BTW if someone finds a newer technology MP3 player that will run from
my Seeburg wall box I'm listening.
It needs to run from a num pad.


Don't know about that, but I bet there is a 4 dollar and 99 cent MP3
player on Amazon that will run, *despite* your Seeburg Wall Box... I
know you guys love to see who can be the biggest Luddite, but there is a
point where it isn't much more than folly.. Not that there is anything
wrong with that..

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 21:45:54 -0500, wrote:

If there is one thing I really miss from DOS and W/3.x it is that we
lost the RAM drive capability. At a certain point you get better
performance using RAM to cache your hard drive than to just give it to
the OS to use. That is particularly true in a data intensive
application like dBase.

===

Ask and you shall receive:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/26091..._ram_disk.html

Of course all of that is predicated on having lots of RAM and a more
or less recent version of Windows, preferably a 64 bit version which
can leverage more than 4 gig of RAM.

The newer machines with lots of RAM and more up to date versions of
Windows also do a good job of creating a virtual cache. Of course
the controller board for newer hard disks usually has a fair amount of
cache built in.

With all due respect, a lot has happened since Win 3.2 and Win95.

I could offer you a good price on an 2 x 4 processor server blade with
Win-7 64 bit professional pre-installed. The fans are a tad noisy but
tolerable. Power consumption running all 8 processor cores flat out
is about 175 watts.

The speed is amazing with applications that can multiprocess.