On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 21:54:33 -0500, wrote:

BTW if someone finds a newer technology MP3 player that will run from
my Seeburg wall box I'm listening.

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What is a Seeburg wall box ? Does it have an Aux input jack?

On 2/4/2014 2:25 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 23:52:19 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/3/2014 9:54 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:42:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


What is a 'hard reset'?

When you have to power off your PC because it doesn't respond to
keyboard or mouse input.

I can't remember the last time I had to do that on XP. It was not
uncommon on W/98 but usually when you were screwing with new hardware
and drivers.
I just loaded a W/98 machine Saturday. I had one of those.
It turned out to be a bad, on board LAN adapter.
I just plugged in a card and epoxied a blank RJ45 in the board hole so
I would not forget ... again. ;-)
It is my new MP3 player.

BTW if someone finds a newer technology MP3 player that will run from
my Seeburg wall box I'm listening.
It needs to run from a num pad.


Don't know about that, but I bet there is a 4 dollar and 99 cent MP3
player on Amazon that will run, *despite* your Seeburg Wall Box... I
know you guys love to see who can be the biggest Luddite, but there is a
point where it isn't much more than folly.. Not that there is anything
wrong with that..

The wall box is just a novelty thing but I like it.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/judybar.jpg

I have a bunch of commercial MP3 players. (3 in vehicles and 3 pocket
style. I even had an Ipod for a week before we gave it to my father in
law. They are all a pain in the ass if you want to hear a particular
song.

My wife has the "sync" in her Lincoln that you can talk to but it is
set up to recognize her voice, not so much mine.
I don't think it is any more distracting to punch a number into a 10
key than to try to get the Sync to understand what you want.


I have 1800 songs or so and not one I don't like so I don't go
searching.. Just like listening to a radio station with no commercials,
and no **** music:0


Running MPXPLAY you can just punch up a song by number.
I know there is a plug in for Winamp to do that too but it was pretty
clunky and I gave up on it.

BTW I looked this evening and there os a version of MPXPLAY that runs
on XP now. I tried the Beta a while ago and it wasn't ready for the
public yet.
I may reload at least one of my W/98 machines to XP and take it for a
spin.
I played with it a little tonight and it looks good so far.
14 years ago when I first started with PC based players I had a pretty
long Email exchange with Atilla the Hungarian (the developer) and at
least one of my suggestions made it to the field. I have been running
that version for 13 years or so. I ran native DOS 6.3 machines in my
vehicles and in the W/98 DOS box in the tiki bar. (just for the
improved networking)
The DOS machines were great in a car because they went from "key on"
to music in about 10-12 seconds
The Blaupunkt in my car now takes that long and still does not have
keypad support.

On 2/4/2014 2:01 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 21:45:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

So you are saying that if I cobbled up a machine from parts that would
run the Apple OS they would give it to me?

Yeah, you seem like a hackintosh kinda guy.

You didn't answer the question. Does that free OS have to be tied to a
serial number?



I don't think so but not sure. When I upgraded from 10.8.5 to 10.9.1
(Mavericks) I don't recall the website asking for a serial number.
It's possible that the download automatically seeks and finds it on the
computer, but I don't know.

I was a little nervous doing the upgrade because I was still not all
that familiar with the iMac but it upgraded without a hitch.

On 2/4/14, 2:01 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 21:45:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

So you are saying that if I cobbled up a machine from parts that would
run the Apple OS they would give it to me?

Yeah, you seem like a hackintosh kinda guy.

You didn't answer the question. Does that free OS have to be tied to a
serial number?

Not that I am aware of. I've never had to type in a serial number when
installing an Apple OS, and I've downloaded and installed the same
downloaded OS on more than one computer. Further as I suggested the
hackintosh community is running the latest OS on their non-Apple "mac"
devices.



--
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On 2/4/14, 5:51 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/4/2014 2:01 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 21:45:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

So you are saying that if I cobbled up a machine from parts that would
run the Apple OS they would give it to me?

Yeah, you seem like a hackintosh kinda guy.

You didn't answer the question. Does that free OS have to be tied to a
serial number?



I don't think so but not sure. When I upgraded from 10.8.5 to 10.9.1
(Mavericks) I don't recall the website asking for a serial number. It's
possible that the download automatically seeks and finds it on the
computer, but I don't know.

I was a little nervous doing the upgrade because I was still not all
that familiar with the iMac but it upgraded without a hitch.


I have a copy on a thumbdrive somewhere in my desk of Mavericks.

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:51:15 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/3/2014 5:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/3/2014 11:13 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/3/14, 10:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
Maybe I'll stick with XP even after the support stops.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...are-in-january


Or you could buy an upgraded motherboard with a fast 80286 CPU.



Windows XP is still used in many non-personal computer applications like
gas station pumps, ATM machines and other "transparent" applications. XP
may be retaining a market share because the cost of upgrading both
software and hardware to support Win 7 or 8 is expensive for these applications.

As a user of XP, Windows 7 and 8 (and now an iMac) I think XP was (is) a
very good and stable OS but Windows 7 has it beat hands down.
Even this Vista machine runs faster and has more capabilities than XP, as good as it is.

I think the vista machine would probably run XP a lot faster than your old
machine.


Maybe, but why? This Vista machine outperforms the Compaq I had with XP
with basically the same CPU speed and RAM.

Other than slow boots from a power off condition, I have no complaints
about Vista. I rarely shut it down completely. I just put it in "sleep"
mode.

It has been stable and this HP Pavilion has had no hick-ups in 5 years,
used daily. Many people expressed frustration and problems with Vista
but I haven't had any issues or complaints. The Win 7 and 8 has some
updated applications that are better than what is in this Vista machine,
but I really haven't had any need to upgrade it.

I'll just use it until it croaks.


My wife, on her Vista machine, lost all her icons on the desktop. Any idea what caused that? I don't
like the idea of playing with her Vista machine.

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 19:44:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/3/2014 7:20 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
F.O.A.D. wrote:
snipped
My next purchase will be a decent printer. I've had no need for one for
years. Anything I needed to print I would just send to my wife and she'd
print it on her laser printer. However, I have been recently retained
to do some consulting work related to the business I was in and will
need to get a printer. Her laser printer is not wireless, (I don't
think) so I can't use it on the home network. I should check that though.

I noticed most people now are using Adobe PDF files for most things.
All the communications and documents I've received so far from the
company I am working with use it. I noticed you can now subscribe to
it's use for something like $19/mo. Might do that rather than buy the
software.

Got this for Christmas:

http://tinyurl.com/kffxlzj

Here's what Consumer Reports had to say about it:

CR's Take
For an all-in-one black-and-while laser printer, this Samsung is not only cheap to buy, but it's
also inexpensive to operate and print. It's a bit short on features, but it has outstanding overall
performance.
Highs
• Excellent text quality
• Very fast printing black text
• Very good monochrome graphics quality
• Excellent copy quality
• Auto feeder can scan or copy a stack of pages
Lows
• Less versatile than most
Detailed test results
PRINTING. The Samsung SCX-3405FW prints using laser technology, which picks up powdered 'toner' on a
roller and fuses it to the paper with heat. It prints black-and-white text with excellent quality,
as we've come to expect from a laser printer. Text printing was very quick, 12 pages per minute,
costing 4.4 cents per page. Its black-and-white graphics printing is very good for reports,
newsletters and web pages.
SCANNING and COPYING. Scanning performance was very good, fine for general-purpose scanning. Copying
performance was excellent, producing copies very close to the original. There's an automatic
document feeder to let you copy or scan a stack of pages in one operation.
CONTROLS and DISPLAY. The printer has no display screen.
CONNECTIVITY and NETWORKING. You can connect directly to a PC with a USB cable, or to your network
router either wirelessly with Wi-Fi or with an Ethernet cable. This model has built-in faxing, can
store incoming faxes if the paper runs out, and can send faxes from an attached PC. You can print
directly from smart phones and tablets (Android apps or Apple AirPrint) over your Wi-Fi network.

On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 15:19:35 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 3, 2014 3:14:06 PM UTC-6, HanK wrote:
On 2/3/2014 2:49 PM, wrote:

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 11:49:45 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 2/3/14, 11:46 AM, wrote:

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:04:24 -0500, Poco Loco

wrote:



Maybe I'll stick with XP even after the support stops.



http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...are-in-january



Microsoft has not given their business users any compelling reason to

switch.

If your mission is not significantly changing, why should you change

your hardware and software?

99% of all real business applications ran just fine on Windows 3.1 on

a 396. If you are just doing bookkeeping, inventory and point of sale,

you don't need that much computing power.

All of these flashy graphics do not actually add much to the average

business man's operation.

Hardware is pretty stagnant these days so I am not really sure why

they need a different OS.







Apple offers incremental improvements to its OS, not do-overs, and its

price is right. Mavericks, the latest, costs $0.00. I was going to put

Win 7 on my Macbook Air, but for $100+, I simply decided not to waste

the money.



The OS is not free, it is just bundled into the overpriced hardware.

IBM did the same thing with the System 360, all the software was free

including on site support ... until LBJ sued them over it.



Apple gets away with it because they are still a small player.



Most people do not get the retail version of windows anyway. They get

it bundled with the software and it is about $35-40 that way based on

what you can get a bare (or linux) system for.



I don't even pay that. When you get an off lease machine the extra

cost is negligible and you could reinstall that OS on a brand new

machine if you wanted to. You just need the sticker ... or just the

numbers.

I am not even sure Microsoft is checking for duplicate XP

installations these days. I do have a good W-7 number if I wanted to

play with it but I have XP on that machine now.

I have still not seen a compelling need to go to 7 or 8.



I am not impressed with the idea that just being newer is always

better.



I just fired up a win 8.1 machine. So far everything is loading in

flawlessly, even the 1999 Mapsource from Garmin. I'm in the process of

loading the 2014 map data now. So far so good.

Can you do that on a Win7?

Sandy and I update our Garmins about every six months using Windows.

On 2/4/2014 8:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:51:15 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/3/2014 5:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/3/2014 11:13 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/3/14, 10:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
Maybe I'll stick with XP even after the support stops.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...are-in-january


Or you could buy an upgraded motherboard with a fast 80286 CPU.



Windows XP is still used in many non-personal computer applications like
gas station pumps, ATM machines and other "transparent" applications. XP
may be retaining a market share because the cost of upgrading both
software and hardware to support Win 7 or 8 is expensive for these applications.

As a user of XP, Windows 7 and 8 (and now an iMac) I think XP was (is) a
very good and stable OS but Windows 7 has it beat hands down.
Even this Vista machine runs faster and has more capabilities than XP, as good as it is.

I think the vista machine would probably run XP a lot faster than your old
machine.


Maybe, but why? This Vista machine outperforms the Compaq I had with XP
with basically the same CPU speed and RAM.

Other than slow boots from a power off condition, I have no complaints
about Vista. I rarely shut it down completely. I just put it in "sleep"
mode.

It has been stable and this HP Pavilion has had no hick-ups in 5 years,
used daily. Many people expressed frustration and problems with Vista
but I haven't had any issues or complaints. The Win 7 and 8 has some
updated applications that are better than what is in this Vista machine,
but I really haven't had any need to upgrade it.

I'll just use it until it croaks.


My wife, on her Vista machine, lost all her icons on the desktop. Any idea what caused that? I don't
like the idea of playing with her Vista machine.


Pretty easy to fix. Right click on any section of the desktop. Select
"View". You will see an item called "Show Desktop Icons". Make sure the
box is checked. If you don't want the icons to show on the desktop,
uncheck the box. Your wife or someone probably inadvertently
"unchecked" the box.

On 2/4/14, 8:45 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 19:44:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/3/2014 7:20 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
F.O.A.D. wrote:
snipped
My next purchase will be a decent printer. I've had no need for one for
years. Anything I needed to print I would just send to my wife and she'd
print it on her laser printer. However, I have been recently retained
to do some consulting work related to the business I was in and will
need to get a printer. Her laser printer is not wireless, (I don't
think) so I can't use it on the home network. I should check that though.

I noticed most people now are using Adobe PDF files for most things.
All the communications and documents I've received so far from the
company I am working with use it. I noticed you can now subscribe to
it's use for something like $19/mo. Might do that rather than buy the
software.

Got this for Christmas:

http://tinyurl.com/kffxlzj

Here's what Consumer Reports had to say about it:

CR's Take
For an all-in-one black-and-while laser printer, this Samsung is not only cheap to buy, but it's
also inexpensive to operate and print. It's a bit short on features, but it has outstanding overall
performance.
Highs
• Excellent text quality
• Very fast printing black text
• Very good monochrome graphics quality
• Excellent copy quality
• Auto feeder can scan or copy a stack of pages
Lows
• Less versatile than most
Detailed test results
PRINTING. The Samsung SCX-3405FW prints using laser technology, which picks up powdered 'toner' on a
roller and fuses it to the paper with heat. It prints black-and-white text with excellent quality,
as we've come to expect from a laser printer. Text printing was very quick, 12 pages per minute,
costing 4.4 cents per page. Its black-and-white graphics printing is very good for reports,
newsletters and web pages.
SCANNING and COPYING. Scanning performance was very good, fine for general-purpose scanning. Copying
performance was excellent, producing copies very close to the original. There's an automatic
document feeder to let you copy or scan a stack of pages in one operation.
CONTROLS and DISPLAY. The printer has no display screen.
CONNECTIVITY and NETWORKING. You can connect directly to a PC with a USB cable, or to your network
router either wirelessly with Wi-Fi or with an Ethernet cable. This model has built-in faxing, can
store incoming faxes if the paper runs out, and can send faxes from an attached PC. You can print
directly from smart phones and tablets (Android apps or Apple AirPrint) over your Wi-Fi network.


That's an amazing price for a laser printer that also scans and faxes.

What do you pay for branded toner carts and how many prints do you get
from each?

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.