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On 1/18/2014 10:12 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

As a 2LT, I tried to get into flight school. Had to take a flight physical, with EKG. They found
premature ventricular contractions (PVCs), which usually aren't that big of a deal, but they do
prevent one from getting into flight school. They gave me pills - sedatives mostly, but they didn't
help. If they'd told me to stop drinking coffee, I might have gone to flight school.

Haven't had any PVCs for at least 40 years now.

That's interesting. A little over a year ago when I became a little
concerned with some increasing chest pains I was having (especially at
night) I ended up having a full bore nuclear stress test and they found
nothing wrong. No blockages, no abnormal circulatory or respiratory
issues.

They asked how much coffee I drank (which was a lot) and suggested I
try de-caf for a while. I did, and haven't had a single episode of
chest pains since.

I also have become used to de-caf. I actually prefer it over high test now.

On 1/18/2014 4:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:34:43 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 2:28 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/18/2014 1:53 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:10:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:28:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:17 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:37:38 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:53:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

The USA has been a big-time
marketer of land mines. Some 155 countries have signed onto a
treaty not
to use land mines. The United States is not a signatory.

From what I understand the US use of land mines is almost
exclusively
in the DMZ between N and S Korea. It is the only way they think
50,000
troops would have a chance of slowing an invasion of foot soldiers.
I doubt it would buy them an hour. By then the NK bodies would be
piled up high enough to blunt the force of the mines and they would
come on down the peninsula

I've been to the DMZ, where our division is located. Don't recall
anything about minefields. Also
developed a study simulating an NK attack. I had a very extensive
listing of all the offensive and
defensive forces and weapons - no minefields were included.

Infantry: Minding The World's Largest Minefield

January 31, 2009: While landmines are technically "banned" weapons,
there are still plenty in use, and one of the most mined areas is
Korea.
The Mine Ban Treaty came into force in 1999, but 42 countries did not
agree to the ban on the production, stockpiling, and use of
antipersonnel mines. Countries who opted out include China, India,
Pakistan, Russia, South Korea and the United States. This includes the
major producers of landmines, as well as many of those still using
landmines.

South Korea has about a million landmines emplaced along the DMZ
(DeMilitarized Zone) between north and south Korea. The U.S. and South
Korea have another two million or so mines in storage, in case North
Korea tries to invade again (as it last did in 1950.) North Korea
won't
say how many mines it has planted, but it's probably at least several
hundred thousand.

South Korea has to replace mines as they get too old to still work,
and
they are starting to do this with a new generation of command (by wire
or wireless) detonated mines. Many of the more recent mines South
Korea
has stockpiled are of the self-destruct (a certain amount of time
after
planted) variety. South Korea has been making plans for clearing
all the
mines it has planted over the years, largely because it appears
that the
communist government of North Korea will collapse soon, eliminating
the
need for the DMZ, and all those

http://tinyurl.com/kll4beh

Must be those pesky stealth mines, since our military doesn’t know
about
them. Or maybe we just don't know about them because they are South
Korea's mines. What?

Well see, there you go. Apparently those mines are so secret they
didn't make the books at Combined
Forces Command. Or, there may be some bull**** going on. As for
mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

My comments don't include mines used to defend firing positions,
such as claymores. Claymores (or
the equivalent) are undoubtedly used wherever there are firing
positions for US or South Korean
forces. To not use them would be stupid.

I have no idea what "Combined Forces Command" knows or doesn't know,
other than to say that "military intelligence" is one of the leading
oxymorons.

Right up there with 'honest media'.

And transparency in government at any level including the top.

Perhaps you fellas would prefer Somalia...it's a Republican/Libertarian
paradise, from what I have read...no real government, no real rules,
plenty of guns for everyone. Paradise! :)

Down on Blacks again? Wink, wink.

Out of the blue he wants to focus on Somalia. Someone please tell me how
Mr. Krause makes this connection.

F.O.A.D. wrote:

It has never bothered me that my draft board never contacted me, even
though I made damned sure it always had my current mailing address.
Sure you did.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 1/18/14, 2:28 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/18/2014 1:53 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:10:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:28:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:17 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:37:38 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:53:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

The USA has been a big-time
marketer of land mines. Some 155 countries have signed onto a
treaty not
to use land mines. The United States is not a signatory.

From what I understand the US use of land mines is almost
exclusively
in the DMZ between N and S Korea. It is the only way they think
50,000
troops would have a chance of slowing an invasion of foot soldiers.
I doubt it would buy them an hour. By then the NK bodies would be
piled up high enough to blunt the force of the mines and they would
come on down the peninsula

I've been to the DMZ, where our division is located. Don't recall
anything about minefields. Also
developed a study simulating an NK attack. I had a very extensive
listing of all the offensive and
defensive forces and weapons - no minefields were included.

Infantry: Minding The World's Largest Minefield

January 31, 2009: While landmines are technically "banned" weapons,
there are still plenty in use, and one of the most mined areas is
Korea.
The Mine Ban Treaty came into force in 1999, but 42 countries did not
agree to the ban on the production, stockpiling, and use of
antipersonnel mines. Countries who opted out include China, India,
Pakistan, Russia, South Korea and the United States. This includes the
major producers of landmines, as well as many of those still using
landmines.

South Korea has about a million landmines emplaced along the DMZ
(DeMilitarized Zone) between north and south Korea. The U.S. and South
Korea have another two million or so mines in storage, in case North
Korea tries to invade again (as it last did in 1950.) North Korea
won't
say how many mines it has planted, but it's probably at least several
hundred thousand.

South Korea has to replace mines as they get too old to still work,
and
they are starting to do this with a new generation of command (by wire
or wireless) detonated mines. Many of the more recent mines South
Korea
has stockpiled are of the self-destruct (a certain amount of time
after
planted) variety. South Korea has been making plans for clearing
all the
mines it has planted over the years, largely because it appears
that the
communist government of North Korea will collapse soon, eliminating
the
need for the DMZ, and all those

http://tinyurl.com/kll4beh

Must be those pesky stealth mines, since our military doesnâ€™t know
about
them. Or maybe we just don't know about them because they are South
Korea's mines. What?

Well see, there you go. Apparently those mines are so secret they
didn't make the books at Combined
Forces Command. Or, there may be some bull**** going on. As for
mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

My comments don't include mines used to defend firing positions,
such as claymores. Claymores (or
the equivalent) are undoubtedly used wherever there are firing
positions for US or South Korean
forces. To not use them would be stupid.

I have no idea what "Combined Forces Command" knows or doesn't know,
other than to say that "military intelligence" is one of the leading
oxymorons.

Right up there with 'honest media'.

And transparency in government at any level including the top.

Perhaps you fellas would prefer Somalia...it's a Republican/Libertarian
paradise, from what I have read...no real government, no real rules,
plenty of guns for everyone. Paradise! :)

They have government. They are tribal warlords. Major problem in Somalia
is that the Italians combined 3 different tribal areas in to one country.
Tribes who did not get along with each other. So you have 3 different
governments in Somalia. Each tribe. And the to tribes do not manufacture
anything useful.

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.

My roommate before marriage worked on a mine thrower for FMC. He designed
the triggering mechanism. Was a spinning tire and the mines were fed on to
the tire and tossed out as the trailer was pulled along.

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 22:42:05 -0600, Califbill wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.

My roommate before marriage worked on a mine thrower for FMC. He designed
the triggering mechanism. Was a spinning tire and the mines were fed on to
the tire and tossed out as the trailer was pulled along.

Anti-tank mines on top of the ground become easy targets for the machine guns on tanks.

Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 22:42:05 -0600, Califbill wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.

My roommate before marriage worked on a mine thrower for FMC. He designed
the triggering mechanism. Was a spinning tire and the mines were fed on to
the tire and tossed out as the trailer was pulled along.

Anti-tank mines on top of the ground become easy targets for the machine guns on tanks.

I think these were anti personnel variety. I would ask him, but he died
last year.

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:06:43 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 22:42:05 -0600, Califbill wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.

My roommate before marriage worked on a mine thrower for FMC. He designed
the triggering mechanism. Was a spinning tire and the mines were fed on to
the tire and tossed out as the trailer was pulled along.

Anti-tank mines on top of the ground become easy targets for the machine guns on tanks.

I think these were anti personnel variety. I would ask him, but he died
last year.

I can't imagine us deploying AP mines that way, unless they were a timed, self-destructing type of
some sort. Normally we would make a very detailed record - down to the location of each mine. That
would be hard to do if the mines were just scattered.