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Wayne.B January 20th 14 10:02 PM

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:44:26 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 14:34:43 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/20/2014 1:06 PM,
wrote:


It would be interesting to know just exactly how autonomous the drones
are... Can they discern friendly from foe, can they determine what
collateral damage will be, and decide if it's "worth it" or not to take
out the mission?

IFF is a fantasy when it comes to drones. We have declared most of
Afghanistan a free fire zone and they kill any target that looks
suspicious to them.


Who is picking the targets, humans, or the drone... That is my
question.. And if it's a human, can the drone over ride that order if it
sees something? Again, just wondering...


If we can believe what they say, the targets are designated by a human
but how the selection is made is still in dispute.
I do believe the technology is good enough that they hit the target
they are aiming at most of the time, terrorist or innocent goat
herder.


===

Every drone has a ground based pilot and co-pilot. They are the ones
with their fingers on the "fire" button.

F.O.A.D. January 20th 14 10:02 PM

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On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote:


When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is.


Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...


I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash.
The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off
longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They
come right back.
Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot
them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I
would look for a hardware problem.


If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59
million. Stale data, indeed.

http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze

Poco Loco January 20th 14 10:48 PM

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:40:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.



Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.


I've had XP for quite a while now and love it. My wife has had Vista and now Windows 7. I'll take XP
over both. Haven't seen the blue screen since Windows 95.


Poco Loco January 20th 14 10:51 PM

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:16:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/20/14, 11:45 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 11:21 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:15 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.

Are you becoming less mobile?


You think a 27" iMac is a "mobile" computer, eh? I suppose it could be,
if you had a big, sturdy travel case. My guess is the iMac alone weighs
at least 30 pounds.

I'm not selling my laptop, just my current desktop.

It's a good buy for someone who likes iMacs and has need of a cherry
used one with an i7 CPU.


I have no idea what an Imac is. It sounded to me that you were selling
something with a carry handle to be replaced with something bigger and
bulkier sans handles.


An iMac is Apple's version of an "all in one" desktop computer.

Looks like this:

http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01...70-main-lg.jpg


It's pretty enough to go on a mantle. How much are you asking for it?


Poco Loco January 20th 14 10:54 PM

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:19:32 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/20/2014 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:41:06 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.


I agree and without the fear of pilot loss, they could get down to
treetop level "frying chickens in the barnyard".

They could get AP munitions right on the target using the full range
of systems we have..


It would be interesting to know just exactly how autonomous the drones
are... Can they discern friendly from foe, can they determine what
collateral damage will be, and decide if it's "worth it" or not to take
out the mission?


The friend versus foe part is electronic. The pilots of manned B-52s can't tell what the collateral
damage will be either, and they can't determine 'worth' of a mission. Those guys fly *way* up there.


Poco Loco January 20th 14 11:04 PM

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:39:18 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/20/2014 3:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:



The drones are piloted. They have cameras, etc. just has the pilot a
lotta thousands of miles away.


Sure, that's what they are telling us now but I am pretty sure the
artificial intelligence is adequate to go a lot further... unless you
believe the US Military is not taking full advantage of any of it they can:)


In what way, with respect to drones. A target still has to be identified.


Poco Loco January 20th 14 11:06 PM

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote:


When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...


I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash.
The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off
longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They
come right back.
Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot
them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I
would look for a hardware problem.


If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59
million. Stale data, indeed.

http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze


If you enter 'krause taxes' you get:

About 1,120,000 results (0.42 seconds)

Not 59 million, but a significant number of meaningless hits.


F.O.A.D. January 20th 14 11:08 PM

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On 1/20/14, 5:51 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:16:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/20/14, 11:45 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 11:21 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:15 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.

Are you becoming less mobile?


You think a 27" iMac is a "mobile" computer, eh? I suppose it could be,
if you had a big, sturdy travel case. My guess is the iMac alone weighs
at least 30 pounds.

I'm not selling my laptop, just my current desktop.

It's a good buy for someone who likes iMacs and has need of a cherry
used one with an i7 CPU.

I have no idea what an Imac is. It sounded to me that you were selling
something with a carry handle to be replaced with something bigger and
bulkier sans handles.


An iMac is Apple's version of an "all in one" desktop computer.

Looks like this:

http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01...70-main-lg.jpg


It's pretty enough to go on a mantle. How much are you asking for it?


I'm "asking" $700 but I'll end up selling it for $600 cash. One of the
outfits that buys used Apple gear offered me $731, and it will resell
the unit for $950. Another outfit offered me $640.

By selling it locally, I don't have to do anything but put it in its box
and meet the buyer somewhere convenient. A fellow who bought my old Mac
laptop a few years ago seems interested. I'm pretty sure it'll be sold
by the end of the month.



BAR[_2_] January 20th 14 11:30 PM

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In article , says...

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)


With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.


I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.


Mines = set it and forget it.

Hank January 20th 14 11:33 PM

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On 1/20/2014 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:47:03 -0500, Hank wrote:

Perhaps you fellas would prefer Somalia...it's a Republican/Libertarian
paradise, from what I have read...no real government, no real rules,
plenty of guns for everyone. Paradise! :)

Down on Blacks again? Wink, wink.

Out of the blue he wants to focus on Somalia. Someone please tell me how
Mr. Krause makes this connection.


===

It's called running from a losing argument and changing the subject.
Harry must have studied under a woman at one time or another.

Why you guys continue to engage him is a mystery to me.

He's harmless. Annoying but harmless. He's been quite restrained lately.
Haven't you notices?


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