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Poco Loco January 18th 14 06:53 PM

Question on ...
 
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:10:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:28:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:17 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:37:38 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:53:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

The USA has been a big-time
marketer of land mines. Some 155 countries have signed onto a treaty not
to use land mines. The United States is not a signatory.

From what I understand the US use of land mines is almost exclusively
in the DMZ between N and S Korea. It is the only way they think 50,000
troops would have a chance of slowing an invasion of foot soldiers.
I doubt it would buy them an hour. By then the NK bodies would be
piled up high enough to blunt the force of the mines and they would
come on down the peninsula

I've been to the DMZ, where our division is located. Don't recall anything about minefields. Also
developed a study simulating an NK attack. I had a very extensive listing of all the offensive and
defensive forces and weapons - no minefields were included.


Infantry: Minding The World's Largest Minefield


January 31, 2009: While landmines are technically "banned" weapons,
there are still plenty in use, and one of the most mined areas is Korea.
The Mine Ban Treaty came into force in 1999, but 42 countries did not
agree to the ban on the production, stockpiling, and use of
antipersonnel mines. Countries who opted out include China, India,
Pakistan, Russia, South Korea and the United States. This includes the
major producers of landmines, as well as many of those still using
landmines.

South Korea has about a million landmines emplaced along the DMZ
(DeMilitarized Zone) between north and south Korea. The U.S. and South
Korea have another two million or so mines in storage, in case North
Korea tries to invade again (as it last did in 1950.) North Korea won't
say how many mines it has planted, but it's probably at least several
hundred thousand.

South Korea has to replace mines as they get too old to still work, and
they are starting to do this with a new generation of command (by wire
or wireless) detonated mines. Many of the more recent mines South Korea
has stockpiled are of the self-destruct (a certain amount of time after
planted) variety. South Korea has been making plans for clearing all the
mines it has planted over the years, largely because it appears that the
communist government of North Korea will collapse soon, eliminating the
need for the DMZ, and all those

http://tinyurl.com/kll4beh


Must be those pesky stealth mines, since our military doesn’t know about
them. Or maybe we just don't know about them because they are South
Korea's mines. What?


Well see, there you go. Apparently those mines are so secret they didn't make the books at Combined
Forces Command. Or, there may be some bull**** going on. As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

My comments don't include mines used to defend firing positions, such as claymores. Claymores (or
the equivalent) are undoubtedly used wherever there are firing positions for US or South Korean
forces. To not use them would be stupid.


I have no idea what "Combined Forces Command" knows or doesn't know,
other than to say that "military intelligence" is one of the leading
oxymorons.


Right up there with 'honest media'.


Poco Loco January 18th 14 07:21 PM

Question on ...
 
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 12:50:01 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:04:42 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:08:12 -0500,
wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:02:19 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/17/2014 11:56 AM,
wrote:


I always wonder about this radiation thing. I spent the best part of a
year being radioactive enough to set off a radiation detector at an
airport and that was supposed to be curing cancer.


What? I don't get it... "supposed to be curing cancer" at an
"Airport"... confused....

They shot over a hundred Iodine 125 seeds into my prostate for a
cancer problem. Several months later I was in an airport talking to
some nervous TSA guys about it.


Did it work? Did you undergo a prostate biopsy? Isn't that a pain in the ass? :)


So far so good. My PSA went down 90%.

The biopsy is a bit uncomfortable. I am there with an electric dildo
up my ass and the urologist says "now you will feel a little prick".

I told him I didn't expect to get screwed until his bill came.


Mine wasn't electric, but more of a .22 cal sized probe with a baby guillotine therein. He took five
chunks. Each one was a 'little prick'. They must get that phrase from talking to dentists.


Hank January 18th 14 07:25 PM

Question on ...
 
On 1/18/2014 10:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
it appears that the communist government of North Korea will collapse
soon, eliminating the need for the DMZ


Are you saying that Denis Rodman's strategy of killing them with
kindness is bearing fruit?

Hank January 18th 14 07:28 PM

Question on ...
 
On 1/18/2014 1:53 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:10:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:28:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:17 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:37:38 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:53:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

The USA has been a big-time
marketer of land mines. Some 155 countries have signed onto a treaty not
to use land mines. The United States is not a signatory.

From what I understand the US use of land mines is almost exclusively
in the DMZ between N and S Korea. It is the only way they think 50,000
troops would have a chance of slowing an invasion of foot soldiers.
I doubt it would buy them an hour. By then the NK bodies would be
piled up high enough to blunt the force of the mines and they would
come on down the peninsula

I've been to the DMZ, where our division is located. Don't recall anything about minefields. Also
developed a study simulating an NK attack. I had a very extensive listing of all the offensive and
defensive forces and weapons - no minefields were included.


Infantry: Minding The World's Largest Minefield


January 31, 2009: While landmines are technically "banned" weapons,
there are still plenty in use, and one of the most mined areas is Korea.
The Mine Ban Treaty came into force in 1999, but 42 countries did not
agree to the ban on the production, stockpiling, and use of
antipersonnel mines. Countries who opted out include China, India,
Pakistan, Russia, South Korea and the United States. This includes the
major producers of landmines, as well as many of those still using
landmines.

South Korea has about a million landmines emplaced along the DMZ
(DeMilitarized Zone) between north and south Korea. The U.S. and South
Korea have another two million or so mines in storage, in case North
Korea tries to invade again (as it last did in 1950.) North Korea won't
say how many mines it has planted, but it's probably at least several
hundred thousand.

South Korea has to replace mines as they get too old to still work, and
they are starting to do this with a new generation of command (by wire
or wireless) detonated mines. Many of the more recent mines South Korea
has stockpiled are of the self-destruct (a certain amount of time after
planted) variety. South Korea has been making plans for clearing all the
mines it has planted over the years, largely because it appears that the
communist government of North Korea will collapse soon, eliminating the
need for the DMZ, and all those

http://tinyurl.com/kll4beh


Must be those pesky stealth mines, since our military doesn’t know about
them. Or maybe we just don't know about them because they are South
Korea's mines. What?

Well see, there you go. Apparently those mines are so secret they didn't make the books at Combined
Forces Command. Or, there may be some bull**** going on. As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

My comments don't include mines used to defend firing positions, such as claymores. Claymores (or
the equivalent) are undoubtedly used wherever there are firing positions for US or South Korean
forces. To not use them would be stupid.


I have no idea what "Combined Forces Command" knows or doesn't know,
other than to say that "military intelligence" is one of the leading
oxymorons.


Right up there with 'honest media'.

And transparency in government at any level including the top.

Hank January 18th 14 07:31 PM

Question on ...
 
On 1/18/2014 2:21 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 12:50:01 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:04:42 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:08:12 -0500,
wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:02:19 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/17/2014 11:56 AM,
wrote:


I always wonder about this radiation thing. I spent the best part of a
year being radioactive enough to set off a radiation detector at an
airport and that was supposed to be curing cancer.


What? I don't get it... "supposed to be curing cancer" at an
"Airport"... confused....

They shot over a hundred Iodine 125 seeds into my prostate for a
cancer problem. Several months later I was in an airport talking to
some nervous TSA guys about it.

Did it work? Did you undergo a prostate biopsy? Isn't that a pain in the ass? :)


So far so good. My PSA went down 90%.

The biopsy is a bit uncomfortable. I am there with an electric dildo
up my ass and the urologist says "now you will feel a little prick".

I told him I didn't expect to get screwed until his bill came.


Mine wasn't electric, but more of a .22 cal sized probe with a baby guillotine therein. He took five
chunks. Each one was a 'little prick'. They must get that phrase from talking to dentists.

Not to nit pick but the dentists usually are kind enough to say pinch.

KC January 18th 14 07:33 PM

Question on ...
 
On 1/18/2014 1:19 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.


I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.


Are mines really all that effective on modern armies like the US at this
time? I know we have lots of ways to go over, through, around or
otherwise avoid them and detect them too. I can't really see too many US
troops unknowingly walking into a traditional mine field. I am not
talking about IED's, I am talking about traditional pressure triggered
mines such as used in WW1 and WW2... The type of mines in the DMZ in
Korea....

Poco Loco January 18th 14 07:43 PM

Question on ...
 
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:19:25 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.


I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.


Those won't even slow down tanks, APCs, and self-propelled artillery. North Korea has more of that
stuff than you can imagine.


Poco Loco January 18th 14 07:57 PM

Question on ...
 
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 14:33:10 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/18/2014 1:19 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.


I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.


Are mines really all that effective on modern armies like the US at this
time? I know we have lots of ways to go over, through, around or
otherwise avoid them and detect them too. I can't really see too many US
troops unknowingly walking into a traditional mine field. I am not
talking about IED's, I am talking about traditional pressure triggered
mines such as used in WW1 and WW2... The type of mines in the DMZ in
Korea....


We have various means of breaching minefields, but any of them would slow down an attacking force.
The purpose of a minefield is to canalize or delay the enemy thus subjecting it to fire from
artillery, aircraft, or other tanks.

I know of no mines in the DMZ in Korea. It is a 'demilitarized zone' - wire fences on both sides,
guards in towers on both sides


F.O.A.D. January 18th 14 08:34 PM

Question on ...
 
On 1/18/14, 2:28 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/18/2014 1:53 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:10:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:28:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:17 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:37:38 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:53:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

The USA has been a big-time
marketer of land mines. Some 155 countries have signed onto a
treaty not
to use land mines. The United States is not a signatory.

From what I understand the US use of land mines is almost
exclusively
in the DMZ between N and S Korea. It is the only way they think
50,000
troops would have a chance of slowing an invasion of foot soldiers.
I doubt it would buy them an hour. By then the NK bodies would be
piled up high enough to blunt the force of the mines and they would
come on down the peninsula

I've been to the DMZ, where our division is located. Don't recall
anything about minefields. Also
developed a study simulating an NK attack. I had a very extensive
listing of all the offensive and
defensive forces and weapons - no minefields were included.


Infantry: Minding The World's Largest Minefield


January 31, 2009: While landmines are technically "banned" weapons,
there are still plenty in use, and one of the most mined areas is
Korea.
The Mine Ban Treaty came into force in 1999, but 42 countries did not
agree to the ban on the production, stockpiling, and use of
antipersonnel mines. Countries who opted out include China, India,
Pakistan, Russia, South Korea and the United States. This includes the
major producers of landmines, as well as many of those still using
landmines.

South Korea has about a million landmines emplaced along the DMZ
(DeMilitarized Zone) between north and south Korea. The U.S. and South
Korea have another two million or so mines in storage, in case North
Korea tries to invade again (as it last did in 1950.) North Korea
won't
say how many mines it has planted, but it's probably at least several
hundred thousand.

South Korea has to replace mines as they get too old to still work,
and
they are starting to do this with a new generation of command (by wire
or wireless) detonated mines. Many of the more recent mines South
Korea
has stockpiled are of the self-destruct (a certain amount of time
after
planted) variety. South Korea has been making plans for clearing
all the
mines it has planted over the years, largely because it appears
that the
communist government of North Korea will collapse soon, eliminating
the
need for the DMZ, and all those

http://tinyurl.com/kll4beh


Must be those pesky stealth mines, since our military doesn’t know
about
them. Or maybe we just don't know about them because they are South
Korea's mines. What?

Well see, there you go. Apparently those mines are so secret they
didn't make the books at Combined
Forces Command. Or, there may be some bull**** going on. As for
mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

My comments don't include mines used to defend firing positions,
such as claymores. Claymores (or
the equivalent) are undoubtedly used wherever there are firing
positions for US or South Korean
forces. To not use them would be stupid.


I have no idea what "Combined Forces Command" knows or doesn't know,
other than to say that "military intelligence" is one of the leading
oxymorons.


Right up there with 'honest media'.

And transparency in government at any level including the top.



Perhaps you fellas would prefer Somalia...it's a Republican/Libertarian
paradise, from what I have read...no real government, no real rules,
plenty of guns for everyone. Paradise! :)

Poco Loco January 18th 14 09:25 PM

Question on ...
 
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:34:43 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 2:28 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/18/2014 1:53 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:10:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:28:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:17 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:37:38 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:53:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

The USA has been a big-time
marketer of land mines. Some 155 countries have signed onto a
treaty not
to use land mines. The United States is not a signatory.

From what I understand the US use of land mines is almost
exclusively
in the DMZ between N and S Korea. It is the only way they think
50,000
troops would have a chance of slowing an invasion of foot soldiers.
I doubt it would buy them an hour. By then the NK bodies would be
piled up high enough to blunt the force of the mines and they would
come on down the peninsula

I've been to the DMZ, where our division is located. Don't recall
anything about minefields. Also
developed a study simulating an NK attack. I had a very extensive
listing of all the offensive and
defensive forces and weapons - no minefields were included.


Infantry: Minding The World's Largest Minefield


January 31, 2009: While landmines are technically "banned" weapons,
there are still plenty in use, and one of the most mined areas is
Korea.
The Mine Ban Treaty came into force in 1999, but 42 countries did not
agree to the ban on the production, stockpiling, and use of
antipersonnel mines. Countries who opted out include China, India,
Pakistan, Russia, South Korea and the United States. This includes the
major producers of landmines, as well as many of those still using
landmines.

South Korea has about a million landmines emplaced along the DMZ
(DeMilitarized Zone) between north and south Korea. The U.S. and South
Korea have another two million or so mines in storage, in case North
Korea tries to invade again (as it last did in 1950.) North Korea
won't
say how many mines it has planted, but it's probably at least several
hundred thousand.

South Korea has to replace mines as they get too old to still work,
and
they are starting to do this with a new generation of command (by wire
or wireless) detonated mines. Many of the more recent mines South
Korea
has stockpiled are of the self-destruct (a certain amount of time
after
planted) variety. South Korea has been making plans for clearing
all the
mines it has planted over the years, largely because it appears
that the
communist government of North Korea will collapse soon, eliminating
the
need for the DMZ, and all those

http://tinyurl.com/kll4beh


Must be those pesky stealth mines, since our military doesn’t know
about
them. Or maybe we just don't know about them because they are South
Korea's mines. What?

Well see, there you go. Apparently those mines are so secret they
didn't make the books at Combined
Forces Command. Or, there may be some bull**** going on. As for
mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

My comments don't include mines used to defend firing positions,
such as claymores. Claymores (or
the equivalent) are undoubtedly used wherever there are firing
positions for US or South Korean
forces. To not use them would be stupid.


I have no idea what "Combined Forces Command" knows or doesn't know,
other than to say that "military intelligence" is one of the leading
oxymorons.

Right up there with 'honest media'.

And transparency in government at any level including the top.



Perhaps you fellas would prefer Somalia...it's a Republican/Libertarian
paradise, from what I have read...no real government, no real rules,
plenty of guns for everyone. Paradise! :)


Down on Blacks again? Wink, wink.



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