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On 1/21/2014 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote:


When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that
data is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...

I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash.
The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off
longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They
come right back.
Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot
them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I
would look for a hardware problem.


If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59
million. Stale data, indeed.

http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze

Yup 59 million hits saying basically the same thing


"Determine if you changed anything recently. The most common cause of
the Blue Screen is a recent change in your computer’s settings or
hardware. This is often related to new drivers getting installed or
updated. Drivers are software that allow your hardware to communicate
with Windows.[1]

Because there are essentially an infinite number of hardware
configurations possible, drivers can’t be tested for every possible
setup. This means that sometimes a driver will be installed that
causes a critical error when communicating with the hardware."


... What Wayne said.



I don't know "what Wayne said," as he is down in my bozo bin with
slammer, earl, and Billy Bruce. I'm sure slammer is keeping everyone
down there properly entertained.

Wow. Wayne got there before me.
Who is Billy Bruce?

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On 1/21/14, 9:13 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/21/2014 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote:


When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that
data is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...

I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash.
The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off
longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They
come right back.
Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot
them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I
would look for a hardware problem.


If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59
million. Stale data, indeed.

http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze

Yup 59 million hits saying basically the same thing


"Determine if you changed anything recently. The most common cause of
the Blue Screen is a recent change in your computer’s settings or
hardware. This is often related to new drivers getting installed or
updated. Drivers are software that allow your hardware to communicate
with Windows.[1]

Because there are essentially an infinite number of hardware
configurations possible, drivers can’t be tested for every possible
setup. This means that sometimes a driver will be installed that
causes a critical error when communicating with the hardware."


... What Wayne said.



I don't know "what Wayne said," as he is down in my bozo bin with
slammer, earl, and Billy Bruce. I'm sure slammer is keeping everyone
down there properly entertained.

Wow. Wayne got there before me.
Who is Billy Bruce?


You're on the cusp! :)

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On 1/21/2014 9:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/21/14, 9:13 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/21/2014 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote:


When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that
data is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web...
all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...

I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash.
The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off
longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They
come right back.
Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot
them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I
would look for a hardware problem.


If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59
million. Stale data, indeed.

http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze

Yup 59 million hits saying basically the same thing


"Determine if you changed anything recently. The most common cause of
the Blue Screen is a recent change in your computer’s settings or
hardware. This is often related to new drivers getting installed or
updated. Drivers are software that allow your hardware to communicate
with Windows.[1]

Because there are essentially an infinite number of hardware
configurations possible, drivers can’t be tested for every possible
setup. This means that sometimes a driver will be installed that
causes a critical error when communicating with the hardware."


... What Wayne said.



I don't know "what Wayne said," as he is down in my bozo bin with
slammer, earl, and Billy Bruce. I'm sure slammer is keeping everyone
down there properly entertained.

Wow. Wayne got there before me.
Who is Billy Bruce?


You're on the cusp! :)


Oh Gee. I better mind my Ps and Qs eh? '-

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On 1/21/14, 9:17 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/21/2014 9:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/21/14, 9:13 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/21/2014 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC
wrote:


When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that
data is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web...
all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I
shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...

I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash.
The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off
longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They
come right back.
Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot
them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I
would look for a hardware problem.


If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59
million. Stale data, indeed.

http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze

Yup 59 million hits saying basically the same thing


"Determine if you changed anything recently. The most common cause of
the Blue Screen is a recent change in your computer’s settings or
hardware. This is often related to new drivers getting installed or
updated. Drivers are software that allow your hardware to communicate
with Windows.[1]

Because there are essentially an infinite number of hardware
configurations possible, drivers can’t be tested for every possible
setup. This means that sometimes a driver will be installed that
causes a critical error when communicating with the hardware."


... What Wayne said.



I don't know "what Wayne said," as he is down in my bozo bin with
slammer, earl, and Billy Bruce. I'm sure slammer is keeping everyone
down there properly entertained.

Wow. Wayne got there before me.
Who is Billy Bruce?


You're on the cusp! :)


Oh Gee. I better mind my Ps and Qs eh? '-

Only old farts use that expression. Like us.

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On 1/21/2014 8:36 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/21/14, 12:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:10:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died
in it. It won't boot up anymore.

Any idea of what is going on? Does it get through POST? Do you see
signs of life from the boot drive?

I hate seeing these things getting thrown in the land fill for a minor
problem.



If it is an old laptop, and it isn't a software or software update
problem, then you have to weigh the time and expense involved in a
repair versus buying a new laptops. Run of the mill laptops are pretty
cheap these days, and almost any of them would be many steps up from an
old XP-era laptop.

There also are plenty of used, operating laptops available at pawnshops.
I saw a whole showcase full of them when I was salivating over the
McIntosh amp I finally bought.


It's an old Compaq that I bought not too long before HP bought them. It
performed fine for years until recently. Now it just starts to boot,
disk drive whirrs and then it just shuts off and tries again, over and
over. Never see anything on the screen although the backlight lights up.

I took the hard drive out. I have one of those USB adapters that allows
you to connect it to another computer. Disk drive works as I can see
and copy the files on it. Suspect something on the motherboard and it's
not worth fixing.

I still have a small Averatec labtop running XP that I used on the boat
and in the RVs we had. It still works fine.

The last two laptops I got have been HPs. Both are supposedly optimized
for multi-media. I don't know what that means or if it makes any
difference in performance but I've never had any issues with either.
One Vista and one Win 7, both 64 bit machines.

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On 1/21/2014 9:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/21/14, 9:17 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/21/2014 9:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/21/14, 9:13 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/21/2014 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC
wrote:


When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that
data is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web...
all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I
shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...

I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never
crash.
The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off
longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They
come right back.
Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot
them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I
did, I
would look for a hardware problem.


If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59
million. Stale data, indeed.

http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze

Yup 59 million hits saying basically the same thing


"Determine if you changed anything recently. The most common cause of
the Blue Screen is a recent change in your computer’s settings or
hardware. This is often related to new drivers getting installed or
updated. Drivers are software that allow your hardware to communicate
with Windows.[1]

Because there are essentially an infinite number of hardware
configurations possible, drivers can’t be tested for every possible
setup. This means that sometimes a driver will be installed that
causes a critical error when communicating with the hardware."


... What Wayne said.



I don't know "what Wayne said," as he is down in my bozo bin with
slammer, earl, and Billy Bruce. I'm sure slammer is keeping everyone
down there properly entertained.

Wow. Wayne got there before me.
Who is Billy Bruce?


You're on the cusp! :)


Oh Gee. I better mind my Ps and Qs eh? '-

Only old farts use that expression. Like us.


Some of those old expressions have humorous origins. "Minding your P's
and Q's" has two or three suspected origins. I like the one that
refers to old English taverns where the barkeep would warn patrons to
watch how many pints and quarts of ale they drank.

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:30:41 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

Mines = set it and forget it.

A minefield not covered by observation and fire is a wasted minefield. That's in the first chapter
of the Combat Engineer bible.

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On 1/21/2014 9:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/21/2014 8:36 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/21/14, 12:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:10:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died
in it. It won't boot up anymore.

Any idea of what is going on? Does it get through POST? Do you see
signs of life from the boot drive?

I hate seeing these things getting thrown in the land fill for a minor
problem.



If it is an old laptop, and it isn't a software or software update
problem, then you have to weigh the time and expense involved in a
repair versus buying a new laptops. Run of the mill laptops are pretty
cheap these days, and almost any of them would be many steps up from an
old XP-era laptop.

There also are plenty of used, operating laptops available at pawnshops.
I saw a whole showcase full of them when I was salivating over the
McIntosh amp I finally bought.


It's an old Compaq that I bought not too long before HP bought them. It
performed fine for years until recently. Now it just starts to boot,
disk drive whirrs and then it just shuts off and tries again, over and
over. Never see anything on the screen although the backlight lights up.

I took the hard drive out. I have one of those USB adapters that allows
you to connect it to another computer. Disk drive works as I can see
and copy the files on it. Suspect something on the motherboard and it's
not worth fixing.

I still have a small Averatec labtop running XP that I used on the boat
and in the RVs we had. It still works fine.

The last two laptops I got have been HPs. Both are supposedly optimized
for multi-media. I don't know what that means or if it makes any
difference in performance but I've never had any issues with either. One
Vista and one Win 7, both 64 bit machines.


I suspect you have a bad bootstrap. Do you still have that bootstrap
loader paper tape reader that came with the unit?

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:54:09 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:48:54 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:40:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.

I've had XP for quite a while now and love it. My wife has had Vista and now Windows 7. I'll take XP
over both. Haven't seen the blue screen since Windows 95.

===

I've used them all and 7 is way better than Vista. I think you'd
like it.

I'll probably do it sooner or later. XP support ends in April. Not sure what I'll be without, other
than security upgrades. The guys that built my computer will give me an upgrade. Guess I'll bite the
bullet.

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:21:55 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/20/2014 1:52 PM, Wayne.B wrote:

I have been using Windows based laptops for real time navigation on
all of my boats for the last 15 years, in all kinds of conditions,
several different operating systems, and a bunch of different GPS
devices. None of them has ever experienced a blue screen of death
while underway. BSDs are usually associated with new hardware devices
that do not yet have the correct driver installed. Once you are past
that, everything is usually very solid.

The only app that hangs on my Win7 desktop is iTunes. About 5-10% of
openings are non-responding.

I just reloaded iTunes thinking that was why I couldn't get some of the videos to run on the
internet. like the one Harry posted. That day I loaded three or four programs. None helped. iTunes
is about to get trashed...again.