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On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 14:33:10 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/18/2014 1:19 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.


Are mines really all that effective on modern armies like the US at this
time? I know we have lots of ways to go over, through, around or
otherwise avoid them and detect them too. I can't really see too many US
troops unknowingly walking into a traditional mine field. I am not
talking about IED's, I am talking about traditional pressure triggered
mines such as used in WW1 and WW2... The type of mines in the DMZ in
Korea....

These days I think mines are though of as a way to stop kamikaze
attacks (or whatever the Koreans call them , not an air cav probe.
The soviets were the last ones to use them in any serious numbers and
it was a terror weapon trying to scare the Mujahadeen. It really did
not work. They also get scattered around Africa, again as a terror
device.
I can understand that if your back was against the wall and you wanted
to slow down a division or two of light infantry coming through a
narrow mountain pass, dropping a 100,000 butterfly mines might do the
trick.

These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.

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On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.

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On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.

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On 1/20/14, 9:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.


There are a lot of things about the Windoze experience I simply won't
tolerate. Examples: if and when you still need tech support on matters
that are a bit beyond ordinary, you still get bumped most of the time to
someone in India or suchlike whose English is abominable and who is
simply a script reader. If you are running a Windoze computer, such as a
Dell or HP, you also end up in overseas poor English tech support.

In the years I have been using Apple products, the times I have called
tech support always and I mean always resulted in connecting to a tech
person in this country or Canada whose English was flawless and who was
able to provide the help needed. Also, a couple of times I needed
service on Apple hardware and I was able to take it right to the Apple
store and either get it fixed while I waited or had lunch, or it was
ready in a couple of days. Try that with your Dell or HP PC, printer or
laptop.

My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.

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On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 9:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.


There are a lot of things about the Windoze experience I simply won't
tolerate. Examples: if and when you still need tech support on matters
that are a bit beyond ordinary, you still get bumped most of the time to
someone in India or suchlike whose English is abominable and who is
simply a script reader. If you are running a Windoze computer, such as a
Dell or HP, you also end up in overseas poor English tech support.

In the years I have been using Apple products, the times I have called
tech support always and I mean always resulted in connecting to a tech
person in this country or Canada whose English was flawless and who was
able to provide the help needed. Also, a couple of times I needed
service on Apple hardware and I was able to take it right to the Apple
store and either get it fixed while I waited or had lunch, or it was
ready in a couple of days. Try that with your Dell or HP PC, printer or
laptop.

My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.



I joke a bit about my computer ignorance but I am probably a more
advanced user ... at least of Windows ... than I let on to be. I've
never had to call tech support for any Windows based issues on any
computer. I can usually figure it out myself, often by just googling
the problem or question and finding the answer on one of the many
computer forums.

The only time I've called tech support (actually my wife made the call)
was when the Smartdrive she purchased for her iMac refused to work.
The Apple tech spoke English and was helpful but he was also stumped
until it dawned on me that my wife had the Smartdrive upside down. :-)

Don't get me wrong. I like the iMac and am looking forward to gaining
more knowledge and experience with it. I just think that Windows
continues to get a bad rap for being "unstable" or problem-prone. That
has not been my experience at all with the more recent versions.

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On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.

Are you becoming less mobile?

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On 1/20/2014 10:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 9:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in
the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift
bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.


There are a lot of things about the Windoze experience I simply won't
tolerate. Examples: if and when you still need tech support on matters
that are a bit beyond ordinary, you still get bumped most of the time to
someone in India or suchlike whose English is abominable and who is
simply a script reader. If you are running a Windoze computer, such as a
Dell or HP, you also end up in overseas poor English tech support.

In the years I have been using Apple products, the times I have called
tech support always and I mean always resulted in connecting to a tech
person in this country or Canada whose English was flawless and who was
able to provide the help needed. Also, a couple of times I needed
service on Apple hardware and I was able to take it right to the Apple
store and either get it fixed while I waited or had lunch, or it was
ready in a couple of days. Try that with your Dell or HP PC, printer or
laptop.

My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.



I joke a bit about my computer ignorance but I am probably a more
advanced user ... at least of Windows ... than I let on to be. I've
never had to call tech support for any Windows based issues on any
computer. I can usually figure it out myself, often by just googling
the problem or question and finding the answer on one of the many
computer forums.

The only time I've called tech support (actually my wife made the call)
was when the Smartdrive she purchased for her iMac refused to work.
The Apple tech spoke English and was helpful but he was also stumped
until it dawned on me that my wife had the Smartdrive upside down. :-)

Don't get me wrong. I like the iMac and am looking forward to gaining
more knowledge and experience with it. I just think that Windows
continues to get a bad rap for being "unstable" or problem-prone. That
has not been my experience at all with the more recent versions.




When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is.

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On 1/20/14, 11:15 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.

Are you becoming less mobile?


You think a 27" iMac is a "mobile" computer, eh? I suppose it could be,
if you had a big, sturdy travel case. My guess is the iMac alone weighs
at least 30 pounds.

I'm not selling my laptop, just my current desktop.

It's a good buy for someone who likes iMacs and has need of a cherry
used one with an i7 CPU.

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On 1/20/2014 11:18 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 9:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in
the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift
bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue
Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very
stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue
Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.


There are a lot of things about the Windoze experience I simply won't
tolerate. Examples: if and when you still need tech support on matters
that are a bit beyond ordinary, you still get bumped most of the time to
someone in India or suchlike whose English is abominable and who is
simply a script reader. If you are running a Windoze computer, such as a
Dell or HP, you also end up in overseas poor English tech support.

In the years I have been using Apple products, the times I have called
tech support always and I mean always resulted in connecting to a tech
person in this country or Canada whose English was flawless and who was
able to provide the help needed. Also, a couple of times I needed
service on Apple hardware and I was able to take it right to the Apple
store and either get it fixed while I waited or had lunch, or it was
ready in a couple of days. Try that with your Dell or HP PC, printer or
laptop.

My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.



I joke a bit about my computer ignorance but I am probably a more
advanced user ... at least of Windows ... than I let on to be. I've
never had to call tech support for any Windows based issues on any
computer. I can usually figure it out myself, often by just googling
the problem or question and finding the answer on one of the many
computer forums.

The only time I've called tech support (actually my wife made the call)
was when the Smartdrive she purchased for her iMac refused to work.
The Apple tech spoke English and was helpful but he was also stumped
until it dawned on me that my wife had the Smartdrive upside down. :-)

Don't get me wrong. I like the iMac and am looking forward to gaining
more knowledge and experience with it. I just think that Windows
continues to get a bad rap for being "unstable" or problem-prone. That
has not been my experience at all with the more recent versions.




When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...