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Treatment of Females - Does this meet your approval, Krause?
On Friday, November 29, 2013 5:47:42 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/29/13, 6:12 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, November 29, 2013 9:52:22 AM UTC-6, The quote is very clear...that wives must *submit* to their husbands. *Submit* does not mean the same thing as "respect," as you are trying to claim here. You are making a bull**** claim. Submit means being subservient. "The husband is the head of the wife..." What do you think that means? It means the wife is to do as she is told You ar3e obviously thinking that 'subjective' is another term for being a 'slave' which is clearly not representitive of the scripture. but you can believe that if you wish. I think the meaning of the word "submit" in the context of that word as used in your bible is pretty clear. It means, as the OED says, "to place oneself under the control of a person in authority or power; to become subject, surrender oneself, or yield to a person or his rule." You "think" That's what it means? Man, that's concrete! That is the *first* definition given in the OED. The second and third definitions are pretty much the same. The etymology of the word "submit" with many references predates the King James Bible, so the meaning of the word was well-known to the literate hundreds of years prior to that translation and compilation. Plus, there are plenty of contemporary religious writers who have offered up definitions of that phrase, and they all pretty much have the same meaning...that the "husband is the boss, and the wife must do his bidding in all things." All, of course, except the christian apologists, who spend their time trying to misinterpret the meanings of fairly simple and well-understood words. Wow, Harry, I didn't know you were such a theologian. Do you have a MDiv? Women were and, sadly, are second-class citizens, "scripture" says, to be ruled by men. Just add that to the many reasons why a growing number of educated "christian" women are not "obeying" what their churches tell them to do in this regard. Your objection is just another example of how Christians use their bible to back up whatever they think it means. Harry, why should bother with my own faulty interpretations, seeing you're doing a great job of it. I'll listen to you from now on. ?;^ ) I suppose I should tell my wife that and be prepared to look for another place to live. |
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Treatment of Females - Does this meet your approval, Krause?
On 11/29/2013 5:05 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 11/29/13, 12:01 PM, wrote: On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:52:22 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: 22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. These days that means be nice to them on Sunday Morning and give then a few bucks. There certainly are women in this country who tell men to take that "subservient" biblical bull**** and shove it. Is that what happened to you when your wife said there was no way you were getting your name on the title to your house, she didn't want to lose it during your next discussion with the IRS on paying back taxes? I'm assuming that you were addressing your comment to the deadbeat Harry Krause Snerk! -- Americans deserve better. |
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Treatment of Females - Does this meet your approval, Krause?
On Friday, November 29, 2013 5:05:04 PM UTC-5, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 11/29/13, 12:01 PM, wrote: On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:52:22 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: 22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. These days that means be nice to them on Sunday Morning and give then a few bucks. There certainly are women in this country who tell men to take that "subservient" biblical bull**** and shove it. Is that what happened to you when your wife said there was no way you were getting your name on the title to your house, she didn't want to lose it during your next discussion with the IRS on paying back taxes? Heh! |
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