On 11/29/13, 6:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, November 29, 2013 9:52:22 AM UTC-6,
The quote is very clear...that wives must *submit* to their husbands.

*Submit* does not mean the same thing as "respect," as you are trying to

claim here. You are making a bull**** claim. Submit means being

subservient.

"The husband is the head of the wife..."

What do you think that means? It means the wife is to do as she is told


You ar3e obviously thinking that 'subjective' is another term for being a 'slave' which is clearly not representitive of the scripture. but you can believe that if you wish.



I think the meaning of the word "submit" in the context of that word as
used in your bible is pretty clear. It means, as the OED says, "to place
oneself under the control of a person in authority or power; to become
subject, surrender oneself, or yield to a person or his rule."

That is the *first* definition given in the OED. The second and third
definitions are pretty much the same.

The etymology of the word "submit" with many references predates the
King James Bible, so the meaning of the word was well-known to the
literate hundreds of years prior to that translation and compilation.
Plus, there are plenty of contemporary religious writers who have
offered up definitions of that phrase, and they all pretty much have the
same meaning...that the "husband is the boss, and the wife must do his
bidding in all things." All, of course, except the christian apologists,
who spend their time trying to misinterpret the meanings of fairly
simple and well-understood words.

Women were and, sadly, are second-class citizens, "scripture" says, to
be ruled by men. Just add that to the many reasons why a growing number
of educated "christian" women are not "obeying" what their churches tell
them to do in this regard.

Your objection is just another example of how christians use their bible
to back up whatever they think it means.


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