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John H.[_5_] November 29th 13 02:53 AM

Treatment of Females - Does this meet your approval, Krause?
 
You and the lil' squirt should be loving this.

http://tinyurl.com/k2ylwy7

Muslim equality. You gotta love it.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Tim November 29th 13 01:53 PM

Treatment of Females - Does this meet your approval, Krause?
 
On Friday, November 29, 2013 7:32:47 AM UTC-6, John H's spoofer wrote:

He said, "... the Bible instructed Christian women to be subservient

to their husbands, ..."





So, I don't see a lot of philosophical separation between some Muslims

and some Christians. Both of them are Neanderthal.



The scripture doesn't say to be 'sub--servient' it talks about respect to both husband and wife... Sorry you can't or at least don't want to see that.

Ephesians 5:22-33

New International Version (NIV)

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[b] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.


John H.[_5_] November 29th 13 03:11 PM

Treatment of Females - Does this meet your approval, Krause?
 
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 05:53:53 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, November 29, 2013 7:32:47 AM UTC-6, John H's spoofer wrote:

He said, "... the Bible instructed Christian women to be subservient

to their husbands, ..."





So, I don't see a lot of philosophical separation between some Muslims

and some Christians. Both of them are Neanderthal.



The scripture doesn't say to be 'sub--servient' it talks about respect to both husband and wife... Sorry you can't or at least don't want to see that.

Ephesians 5:22-33

New International Version (NIV)

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[b] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.


Thanks for correcting the dip****, Tim!

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



F.O.A.D. November 29th 13 03:52 PM

Treatment of Females - Does this meet your approval, Krause?
 
On 11/29/13, 8:53 AM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, November 29, 2013 7:32:47 AM UTC-6, John H's spoofer wrote:

He said, "... the Bible instructed Christian women to be subservient

to their husbands, ..."





So, I don't see a lot of philosophical separation between some Muslims

and some Christians. Both of them are Neanderthal.



The scripture doesn't say to be 'sub--servient' it talks about respect to both husband and wife... Sorry you can't or at least don't want to see that.

Ephesians 5:22-33

New International Version (NIV)

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[b] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.


Ephesians 5:22-33

King James Version (KJV)

22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head
of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be
to their own husbands in every thing.

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and
gave himself for it;


The quote is very clear...that wives must *submit* to their husbands.
*Submit* does not mean the same thing as "respect," as you are trying to
claim here. You are making a bull**** claim. Submit means being
subservient.

"The husband is the head of the wife..."

What do you think that means? It means the wife is to do as she is told
by her husband. This same sort of religious bull**** was used to keep
women from owning property from thousands of years and to keep them from
having the vote.








--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

[email protected] November 29th 13 03:55 PM

Treatment of Females - Does this meet your approval, Krause?
 
On Friday, November 29, 2013 10:52:22 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/29/13, 8:53 AM, Tim wrote:

On Friday, November 29, 2013 7:32:47 AM UTC-6, John H's spoofer wrote:




He said, "... the Bible instructed Christian women to be subservient




to their husbands, ..."












So, I don't see a lot of philosophical separation between some Muslims




and some Christians. Both of them are Neanderthal.








The scripture doesn't say to be 'sub--servient' it talks about respect to both husband and wife... Sorry you can't or at least don't want to see that.




Ephesians 5:22-33




New International Version (NIV)




22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.




25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church� 30 for we are members of his body. 31 �For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.�[b] 32 This is a profound mystery�but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.






Ephesians 5:22-33



King James Version (KJV)



22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.



23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head

of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.



24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be

to their own husbands in every thing.



25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and

gave himself for it;





The quote is very clear...that wives must *submit* to their husbands.

*Submit* does not mean the same thing as "respect," as you are trying to

claim here. You are making a bull**** claim. Submit means being

subservient.



"The husband is the head of the wife..."



What do you think that means? It means the wife is to do as she is told

by her husband. This same sort of religious bull**** was used to keep

women from owning property from thousands of years and to keep them from

having the vote.




Just like your little; concubine, Donnie.


John H.[_5_] November 29th 13 04:15 PM

Treatment of Females - Does this meet your approval, Krause?
 
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:52:22 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/29/13, 8:53 AM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, November 29, 2013 7:32:47 AM UTC-6, John H's spoofer wrote:

He said, "... the Bible instructed Christian women to be subservient

to their husbands, ..."





So, I don't see a lot of philosophical separation between some Muslims

and some Christians. Both of them are Neanderthal.



The scripture doesn't say to be 'sub--servient' it talks about respect to both husband and wife... Sorry you can't or at least don't want to see that.

Ephesians 5:22-33

New International Version (NIV)

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[b] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.


Ephesians 5:22-33

King James Version (KJV)

22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head
of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be
to their own husbands in every thing.

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and
gave himself for it;


The quote is very clear...that wives must *submit* to their husbands.
*Submit* does not mean the same thing as "respect," as you are trying to
claim here. You are making a bull**** claim. Submit means being
subservient.

"The husband is the head of the wife..."

What do you think that means? It means the wife is to do as she is told
by her husband. This same sort of religious bull**** was used to keep
women from owning property from thousands of years and to keep them from
having the vote.


Submit : accept or yield to a superior force or to the authority or will of another person.

Yielding to the authority of a husband does not mean 'being a servant' of the husband. In this
country we have learned to treat men and women as equals. But, it is still very common for the man
of the house to be the decision-maker when it comes to the big ticket items, such as signing
contracts, buying or selling property, etc.

Your attempt to make Christians as demeaning to women as Muslims is pure dog ****. Perhaps the lil'
squirt will lick it up, but most folks know better.

When I'm walking with my wife, we're side-by-side, holding hands. When my Muslim friends down the
block are walking, the wife is five yards behind the husband. I've never seen a Christian couple
walk that way. Have you? (Never mind, I'm sure you've seen thousands. After all, you're Krause.)

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



John H.[_5_] November 29th 13 05:28 PM

Treatment of Females - Does this meet your approval, Krause?
 
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 12:05:47 -0500, John H wrote:

On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:11:27 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 05:53:53 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, November 29, 2013 7:32:47 AM UTC-6, John H's spoofer wrote:

He said, "... the Bible instructed Christian women to be subservient

to their husbands, ..."





So, I don't see a lot of philosophical separation between some Muslims

and some Christians. Both of them are Neanderthal.



The scripture doesn't say to be 'sub--servient' it talks about respect to both husband and wife... Sorry you can't or at least don't want to see that.

Ephesians 5:22-33

New International Version (NIV)

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife

loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but
they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30
for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave
his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will
become one flesh.”[b] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking
about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must
love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her
husband.

Thanks for correcting the dip****, Tim!


Tim, first of all, your messages are not being sent through the
servers.

I'm replying to you through this message because both you and John
apparently can't read.

I posted: "Southern Baptist Convention's Russell Moore's" words, not
mine. If you have a theological beef it is with the Baptist
Convention, not me.
John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Tim, the spoofer can't keep his spoofs straight.

Again, thanks for correcting the dip****. Russel Moore is not the leader of Christians, nor did he
write the Bible. Maybe he's just a ****ty interpreter or an outlier like Jeremiah Wright or the
'Rev' Jesse Jackson - both outliers and racists.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



True North[_2_] November 29th 13 05:29 PM

Treatment of Females - Does this meet your approval, Krause?
 
On Friday, 29 November 2013 11:55:02 UTC-4, wrote:
On Friday, November 29, 2013 10:52:22 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 11/29/13, 8:53 AM, Tim wrote:




On Friday, November 29, 2013 7:32:47 AM UTC-6, John H's spoofer wrote:








He said, "... the Bible instructed Christian women to be subservient








to their husbands, ..."
























So, I don't see a lot of philosophical separation between some Muslims








and some Christians. Both of them are Neanderthal.
















The scripture doesn't say to be 'sub--servient' it talks about respect to both husband and wife... Sorry you can't or at least don't want to see that.








Ephesians 5:22-33








New International Version (NIV)








22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.








25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church� 30 for we are members of his body. 31 �For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.�[b] 32 This is a profound mystery�but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.












Ephesians 5:22-33








King James Version (KJV)








22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.








23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head




of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.








24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be




to their own husbands in every thing.








25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and




gave himself for it;












The quote is very clear...that wives must *submit* to their husbands.




*Submit* does not mean the same thing as "respect," as you are trying to




claim here. You are making a bull**** claim. Submit means being




subservient.








"The husband is the head of the wife..."








What do you think that means? It means the wife is to do as she is told




by her husband. This same sort of religious bull**** was used to keep




women from owning property from thousands of years and to keep them from




having the vote.




Just like your little; concubine, Donnie.



Hey Dickson, didn't hear you bragging about your OctoberFest polka playin' gig this year.
Did the good folks in Kitchener finally wise up and find a band that could play and look decent for family entertainment?

F.O.A.D. November 29th 13 06:19 PM

Treatment of Females - Does this meet your approval, Krause?
 
On 11/29/13, 12:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:52:22 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.


These days that means be nice to them on Sunday Morning and give then
a few bucks.


There certainly are women in this country who tell men to take that
"subservient" biblical bull**** and shove it.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Hank©[_3_] November 29th 13 07:04 PM

Treatment of Females - Does this meet your approval, Krause?
 
On 11/29/2013 10:11 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 05:53:53 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, November 29, 2013 7:32:47 AM UTC-6, John H's spoofer wrote:

He said, "... the Bible instructed Christian women to be subservient

to their husbands, ..."





So, I don't see a lot of philosophical separation between some Muslims

and some Christians. Both of them are Neanderthal.



The scripture doesn't say to be 'sub--servient' it talks about respect to both husband and wife... Sorry you can't or at least don't want to see that.

Ephesians 5:22-33

New International Version (NIV)

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[b] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.


Thanks for correcting the dip****, Tim!

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Context please. Which dip****, John?

--
Americans deserve better.


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