On 11/14/2013 8:18 AM, John H wrote:


In another post you mentioned "Universal Pre-Kindergarden Day Care". This would, of course, require
government employees to manage the program and increase the dependency of government handouts. In
other words, another ploy to buy Democrat votes.

It's all in the votes bought at the expense of the 'soon-to-be-minority' of the population that pays
any taxes.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




We used to call them "babysitters" and we paid for them ourselves
because we had to work.

On 11/14/2013 8:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2013 8:18 AM, John H wrote:


In another post you mentioned "Universal Pre-Kindergarden Day Care".
This would, of course, require
government employees to manage the program and increase the dependency
of government handouts. In
other words, another ploy to buy Democrat votes.

It's all in the votes bought at the expense of the
'soon-to-be-minority' of the population that pays
any taxes.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




We used to call them "babysitters" and we paid for them ourselves
because we had to work.



Nothin left to do now but pick the bones and wait for the end.

On 11/14/13, 8:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2013 8:18 AM, John H wrote:


In another post you mentioned "Universal Pre-Kindergarden Day Care".
This would, of course, require
government employees to manage the program and increase the dependency
of government handouts. In
other words, another ploy to buy Democrat votes.

It's all in the votes bought at the expense of the
'soon-to-be-minority' of the population that pays
any taxes.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




We used to call them "babysitters" and we paid for them ourselves
because we had to work.





You boys are decades behind the times.

When my kids got to be preschool age, in the mid 70's, it cost $75 a kid
a week to send a kid to a licensed preschool with a quality program and
good teachers in our DC suburb, or about $600 a month for both of them
until one was old enough for public school kindergarten. It was do-able
on a middle class income. Nowadays, according to my neighbors, the same
sort of quality preschool is $1000 to $1200 a month for *one* child,
putting preschool out of the reach of most middle class income families,
and if they have two or three preschool kids, forget about it.

Public preschool allows both parents in a middle class household to work
and allows the parent in a single parent household to work. That's one
of the realities of life these days...it is much more expensive then
when you fellow old farts were raising babies, and incomes in terms of
real dollars have not kept pace for middle and lower income families.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/14/2013 9:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/14/13, 8:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2013 8:18 AM, John H wrote:


In another post you mentioned "Universal Pre-Kindergarden Day Care".
This would, of course, require
government employees to manage the program and increase the dependency
of government handouts. In
other words, another ploy to buy Democrat votes.

It's all in the votes bought at the expense of the
'soon-to-be-minority' of the population that pays
any taxes.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




We used to call them "babysitters" and we paid for them ourselves
because we had to work.





You boys are decades behind the times.

When my kids got to be preschool age, in the mid 70's, it cost $75 a kid
a week to send a kid to a licensed preschool with a quality program and
good teachers in our DC suburb, or about $600 a month for both of them
until one was old enough for public school kindergarten. It was do-able
on a middle class income. Nowadays, according to my neighbors, the same
sort of quality preschool is $1000 to $1200 a month for *one* child,
putting preschool out of the reach of most middle class income families,
and if they have two or three preschool kids, forget about it.

Public preschool allows both parents in a middle class household to work
and allows the parent in a single parent household to work. That's one
of the realities of life these days...it is much more expensive then
when you fellow old farts were raising babies, and incomes in terms of
real dollars have not kept pace for middle and lower income families.


How old were they when you abandoned them?

On 11/14/2013 9:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/14/13, 8:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2013 8:18 AM, John H wrote:


In another post you mentioned "Universal Pre-Kindergarden Day Care".
This would, of course, require
government employees to manage the program and increase the dependency
of government handouts. In
other words, another ploy to buy Democrat votes.

It's all in the votes bought at the expense of the
'soon-to-be-minority' of the population that pays
any taxes.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




We used to call them "babysitters" and we paid for them ourselves
because we had to work.





You boys are decades behind the times.

When my kids got to be preschool age, in the mid 70's, it cost $75 a kid
a week to send a kid to a licensed preschool with a quality program and
good teachers in our DC suburb, or about $600 a month for both of them
until one was old enough for public school kindergarten. It was do-able
on a middle class income. Nowadays, according to my neighbors, the same
sort of quality preschool is $1000 to $1200 a month for *one* child,
putting preschool out of the reach of most middle class income families,
and if they have two or three preschool kids, forget about it.

Public preschool allows both parents in a middle class household to work
and allows the parent in a single parent household to work. That's one
of the realities of life these days...it is much more expensive then
when you fellow old farts were raising babies, and incomes in terms of
real dollars have not kept pace for middle and lower income families.



In our old fart days, that's what friends, family and grandparents were
for in many cases. I recall Navy wives taking turns watching kids so
the others could work or take care of errands. We are not talking about
educating future Einsteins in "Pre-Kindergarden" for cripes sake. It's
basically day care.

When our youngest came on the scene in the 1980's he went to a licensed
day care place so Mrs.E. could go back to work. We paid for it but it
was still affordable. You have to decide if the cost of daycare versus
what you make working makes sense. It's part of the responsibility of
having and raising kids.

I can also remember being five years old and being with my grandmother
while my mother went to work.

Now the federal government is going to fund daycare services with
taxpayer's money?

On Thursday, 14 November 2013 11:01:43 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2013 9:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 11/14/13, 8:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 11/14/2013 8:18 AM, John H wrote:





In another post you mentioned "Universal Pre-Kindergarden Day Care".

This would, of course, require

government employees to manage the program and increase the dependency

of government handouts. In

other words, another ploy to buy Democrat votes.



It's all in the votes bought at the expense of the

'soon-to-be-minority' of the population that pays

any taxes.



John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!









We used to call them "babysitters" and we paid for them ourselves

because we had to work.











You boys are decades behind the times.



When my kids got to be preschool age, in the mid 70's, it cost $75 a kid

a week to send a kid to a licensed preschool with a quality program and

good teachers in our DC suburb, or about $600 a month for both of them

until one was old enough for public school kindergarten. It was do-able

on a middle class income. Nowadays, according to my neighbors, the same

sort of quality preschool is $1000 to $1200 a month for *one* child,

putting preschool out of the reach of most middle class income families,

and if they have two or three preschool kids, forget about it.



Public preschool allows both parents in a middle class household to work

and allows the parent in a single parent household to work. That's one

of the realities of life these days...it is much more expensive then

when you fellow old farts were raising babies, and incomes in terms of

real dollars have not kept pace for middle and lower income families.







In our old fart days, that's what friends, family and grandparents were

for in many cases. I recall Navy wives taking turns watching kids so

the others could work or take care of errands. We are not talking about

educating future Einsteins in "Pre-Kindergarden" for cripes sake. It's

basically day care.



When our youngest came on the scene in the 1980's he went to a licensed

day care place so Mrs.E. could go back to work. We paid for it but it

was still affordable. You have to decide if the cost of daycare versus

what you make working makes sense. It's part of the responsibility of

having and raising kids.



I can also remember being five years old and being with my grandmother

while my mother went to work.



Now the federal government is going to fund daycare services with

taxpayer's money?


For decades now, certain factions have been trying to get govt supplied daycare here.
At this point there are x number of positions available for low income families.
We had our two boys in a Pre School but had to pay the full price because of our combined incomes.

In article ,
says...

On 11/14/2013 8:18 AM, John H wrote:


In another post you mentioned "Universal Pre-Kindergarden Day Care". This would, of course, require
government employees to manage the program and increase the dependency of government handouts. In
other words, another ploy to buy Democrat votes.

It's all in the votes bought at the expense of the 'soon-to-be-minority' of the population that pays
any taxes.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




We used to call them "babysitters" and we paid for them ourselves
because we had to work.

Hell, now people use school as babysitters all of the time! I've seen
people get mad as hell around here because school was out for parent-
teacher conference day, or a furlough day, etc.

On 11/14/13, 9:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 11/14/2013 8:18 AM, John H wrote:


In another post you mentioned "Universal Pre-Kindergarden Day Care". This would, of course, require
government employees to manage the program and increase the dependency of government handouts. In
other words, another ploy to buy Democrat votes.

It's all in the votes bought at the expense of the 'soon-to-be-minority' of the population that pays
any taxes.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




We used to call them "babysitters" and we paid for them ourselves
because we had to work.

Hell, now people use school as babysitters all of the time! I've seen
people get mad as hell around here because school was out for parent-
teacher conference day, or a furlough day, etc.



When both parents in a household have to work, days schools are closed
create havoc. And imagine the havoc it creates in a single parent
household where the mom has a ****ty job at Wal-Mart, eh?



--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/14/2013 9:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/14/13, 9:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 11/14/2013 8:18 AM, John H wrote:


In another post you mentioned "Universal Pre-Kindergarden Day Care".
This would, of course, require
government employees to manage the program and increase the
dependency of government handouts. In
other words, another ploy to buy Democrat votes.

It's all in the votes bought at the expense of the
'soon-to-be-minority' of the population that pays
any taxes.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




We used to call them "babysitters" and we paid for them ourselves
because we had to work.

Hell, now people use school as babysitters all of the time! I've seen
people get mad as hell around here because school was out for parent-
teacher conference day, or a furlough day, etc.



When both parents in a household have to work, days schools are closed
create havoc. And imagine the havoc it creates in a single parent
household where the mom has a ****ty job at Wal-Mart, eh?





Erections have consequences.

In article ,
says...

On 11/14/2013 9:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/14/13, 9:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 11/14/2013 8:18 AM, John H wrote:


In another post you mentioned "Universal Pre-Kindergarden Day Care".
This would, of course, require
government employees to manage the program and increase the
dependency of government handouts. In
other words, another ploy to buy Democrat votes.

It's all in the votes bought at the expense of the
'soon-to-be-minority' of the population that pays
any taxes.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




We used to call them "babysitters" and we paid for them ourselves
because we had to work.

Hell, now people use school as babysitters all of the time! I've seen
people get mad as hell around here because school was out for parent-
teacher conference day, or a furlough day, etc.



When both parents in a household have to work, days schools are closed
create havoc. And imagine the havoc it creates in a single parent
household where the mom has a ****ty job at Wal-Mart, eh?





Erections have consequences.

Good one!