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On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:47:07 -0400, iBoaterer
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On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:44:06 -0400, iBoaterer
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On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:24:29 -0400, iBoaterer
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On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:40:55 -0400, BAR wrote:

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http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

That is what I thought. No cite to the "study" described, just raw
data from the CDC.

At least you can look at the raw data and interpret it yourself. Maybe you can even find the
rise in the data.

The data does not address the original premise of the thread.
They talk about the weapons used in the homicides/suicides but they do
not link it to firearm ownership overall.

Wait, if a person didn't "own" a firearm, how would he use it to commit
the crime?

But it doesn's say anything about the majority who do own a gun and
never commit a crime with it and that is the point.
A lot of those people may not admit owning a gun to an anonymous
person on the phone. You understand that. You won't even tell us your
first name because of your paranoia..

I won't tell someone my first name on usenet because it's just plain
stupid to do so. Please show me ONE cite that says that it's an
intelligent and prudent thing to do so, and no one should worry about
doing so.

Yet you think you can trust what someone would tell a stranger on the
phone about a prime theft item they might have when they probably have
your name and address.

Nobody has a clue about how many people own guns and any phone survey
is simply bogus information gathered by people who usually have an
agenda anyway.

Right...... Prove the information wrong then.

Impossible to "prove" anything if the only data you have is what
someone might tell a pollster on the phone GIGO.

You are taking a CDC data set and trying to use it to justify a study
done with garbage data generated by a bunch of grad students trying to
bull**** a professor into a degree

Got it, you have nothing to base your position on that the data is
wrong, you just don't like the data.