In article ,
says...

On 9/10/2013 2:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


wrote in message ...

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:01:42 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/oc8utop

Now I fully understand that there will be narrow minded idiots who will
ask why I'm opposed to this, saying things like "what do you have to
hide", and why worry if you're not doing anything wrong. Well, to me,
it's the whole premise of privacy. This is way over the top.

If you carry a cell phone, they know where you are anyway.

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I don't know much about cell phones and rarely use mine. Is your
statement true if I have the GPS feature turned "off"?



Yes, and they can activate your mic and camera too... The only to avoid
it (if they are looking at you) is to take your battery out.

Oh, BULL****!!!

A friend of mine is a pretty big name Civil Rights Lawyer and Criminal
Defense Atty in NYC... His statement made me much more comfortable with
all of this really.. He said "if they have gotten to the point where
they are watching your movements, or tapping into the media devices on
your phone, you are already ****ed, and they are coming anyway so you
really shouldn't worry much about *that*... "

In article ,
says...

On 9/10/2013 3:46 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"skin a cat" wrote in message ...

On 9/10/2013 2:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


wrote in message ...

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:01:42 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/oc8utop

Now I fully understand that there will be narrow minded idiots who will
ask why I'm opposed to this, saying things like "what do you have to
hide", and why worry if you're not doing anything wrong. Well, to me,
it's the whole premise of privacy. This is way over the top.

If you carry a cell phone, they know where you are anyway.

-------------------------

I don't know much about cell phones and rarely use mine. Is your
statement true if I have the GPS feature turned "off"?



Yes, and they can activate your mic and camera too... The only to avoid
it (if they are looking at you) is to take your battery out.

A friend of mine is a pretty big name Civil Rights Lawyer and Criminal
Defense Atty in NYC... His statement made me much more comfortable with
all of this really.. He said "if they have gotten to the point where
they are watching your movements, or tapping into the media devices on
your phone, you are already ****ed, and they are coming anyway so you
really shouldn't worry much about *that*... "

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Who the hell is "they" ? Aliens watching each of our individual
movements and listening to all our calls?




I don't know, but I do have a guess, feds or dea maybe tracking a drug
dealer or a potential bomber, etc? The IRS or HHS, or EPA looking for
info on competitors and political enemies?

Anyway, my friends point, for those of you who are emotionally
challenged when it comes to understanding context.. was:

"if the feds are looking at your phone, and tracking your activities,
you are probably at the least a conspirator or a direct suspect in
something they have a pretty good handle on already and nothing you do
to be careful what you say or text, is going to change the fact that you
are probably going to soon have your doors kicked in...".

So, unless you are a international crim, a drug dealer, a reporter for
Fox news, his parents, wife, her parents, their kids, bosses/co-workers
and their families... or other republican operative, you will probably
never really not experience any effects of this surveillance.

The fact that they are collecting the info from folks like us here
really isn't a big deal at all unless you have Govt officials using
personal collected information for personal or political vendettas...
er, um, oh forget it.....

That is all PURE HORSE****!!!!

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says...


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What the matter, the batteries in your tin hat died?
You were on a roll.



Yeah, cause everything I said was so far fetched... I know, only you can
have super secret, inside trader friends in high places.. You asked a
question, I answered based on an opinion you would love if it had
actually come from the Lib that passed it along to me, if not only
because he's a one %er like you...

OH, man, that jawbone must be really giving you problems today!!!

In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

"skin a cat" wrote in message ...



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What the matter, the batteries in your tin hat died?
You were on a roll.



Yeah, cause everything I said was so far fetched... I know, only you
can
have super secret, inside trader friends in high places.. You asked a
question, I answered based on an opinion you would love if it had
actually come from the Lib that passed it along to me, if not only
because he's a one %er like you...

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Could you please send me one of your secret encoder rings so I can
figure out what you just said?

It's his jawbone, remember?

In article ,
says...

On 9/10/13 6:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"skin a cat" wrote in message ...



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What the matter, the batteries in your tin hat died?
You were on a roll.



Yeah, cause everything I said was so far fetched... I know, only you can
have super secret, inside trader friends in high places.. You asked a
question, I answered based on an opinion you would love if it had
actually come from the Lib that passed it along to me, if not only
because he's a one %er like you...

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Could you please send me one of your secret encoder rings so I can
figure out what you just said?



I think PsychoSnotty is saying that strangers talk to him inside his
head, too.

Why am I not surprised?? Hell, he told Luddite that his insane babbling
was because of his jawbone!!!

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:46:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com
wrote:

Who the hell is "they" ? Aliens watching each of our individual
movements and listening to all our calls?



"They" really refers to what is technically possible, not what the
government is doing day to day.

Private companies like Google, your grocery store, banks and your
insurance company know far more about you than the government.

The problem with NSA is they can get all of this and they have the
computer power to make sense of it if they are after you. As long as
this is just used for national security, I am not really concerned but
if this starts getting into local law enforcement there are serious
4th amendment issues involved.

Nobody can remotely turn my mic and camera on on my phone.

On Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:02:47 UTC-3, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On 9/10/13 6:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:





"skin a cat" wrote in message ...







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What the matter, the batteries in your tin hat died?

You were on a roll.







Yeah, cause everything I said was so far fetched... I know, only you can

have super secret, inside trader friends in high places.. You asked a

question, I answered based on an opinion you would love if it had

actually come from the Lib that passed it along to me, if not only

because he's a one %er like you...



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Could you please send me one of your secret encoder rings so I can

figure out what you just said?







I think PsychoSnotty is saying that strangers talk to him inside his

head, too.



Why am I not surprised?? Hell, he told Luddite that his insane babbling

was because of his jawbone!!!


Someone (teenage girl) must have 'tuned' his jawbone to his local fox radio station. Wonder what it would take to 'de-tune' him?

On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:00:44 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

That is all PURE HORSE****!!!!


You mad, ****stick???


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